DDB staff want to provide 3rd party content, but there are legal reasons (probably more than one) why they can't.
And, I'm honestly very fine with that. I understand it's all a game and rules can be manipulated for the fun of the group. However, I rather enjoy keeping everything in my campaigns official as that puts some consistency to the content that gives it more....authenticity. And, I know everything official once started in a home-brew setting. But, once it's released, it has been through the rigors, play-tests, review, refining, etc to get to where it's at. Honestly, I prefer that over obscure third party content that may not link up well with what has been established.
Basically, the bottom line falls down to trust. I trust WotC has the best interests in mind for D&D now and going into the future. As I trust the developers of D&D Beyond working in according with WotC. I trust their interests and motives pushing the game and concept into the future. And, though third parties have great ideas and can add nice stuff...I just don't trust that it measures to the standard I've associated with what can and is labeled official content.
DDB staff want to provide 3rd party content, but there are legal reasons (probably more than one) why they can't.
And, I'm honestly very fine with that. I understand it's all a game and rules can be manipulated for the fun of the group. However, I rather enjoy keeping everything in my campaigns official as that puts some consistency to the content that gives it more....authenticity. And, I know everything official once started in a home-brew setting. But, once it's released, it has been through the rigors, play-tests, review, refining, etc to get to where it's at. Honestly, I prefer that over obscure third party content that may not link up well with what has been established.
Basically, the bottom line falls down to trust. I trust WotC has the best interests in mind for D&D now and going into the future. As I trust the developers of D&D Beyond working in according with WotC. I trust their interests and motives pushing the game and concept into the future. And, though third parties have great ideas and can add nice stuff...I just don't trust that it measures to the standard I've associated with what can and is labeled official content.
DDB staff want to provide 3rd party content, but there are legal reasons (probably more than one) why they can't.
And, I'm honestly very fine with that. I understand it's all a game and rules can be manipulated for the fun of the group. However, I rather enjoy keeping everything in my campaigns official as that puts some consistency to the content that gives it more....authenticity. And, I know everything official once started in a home-brew setting. But, once it's released, it has been through the rigors, play-tests, review, refining, etc to get to where it's at. Honestly, I prefer that over obscure third party content that may not link up well with what has been established.
Basically, the bottom line falls down to trust. I trust WotC has the best interests in mind for D&D now and going into the future. As I trust the developers of D&D Beyond working in according with WotC. I trust their interests and motives pushing the game and concept into the future. And, though third parties have great ideas and can add nice stuff...I just don't trust that it measures to the standard I've associated with what can and is labeled
DDB staff want to provide 3rd party content, but there are legal reasons (probably more than one) why they can't.
And, I'm honestly very fine with that. I understand it's all a game and rules can be manipulated for the fun of the group. However, I rather enjoy keeping everything in my campaigns official as that puts some consistency to the content that gives it more....authenticity. And, I know everything official once started in a home-brew setting. But, once it's released, it has been through the rigors, play-tests, review, refining, etc to get to where it's at. Honestly, I prefer that over obscure third party content that may not link up well with what has been established.
Basically, the bottom line falls down to trust. I trust WotC has the best interests in mind for D&D now and going into the future. As I trust the developers of D&D Beyond working in according with WotC. I trust their interests and motives pushing the game and concept into the future. And, though third parties have great ideas and can add nice stuff...I just don't trust that it measures to the standard I've associated with what can and is labeled official content.
I would label third party items as such. And as time goes on it may be worked into official items.
So far no third-party published content has ever been worked into 5e. For example, Explorer's Guide to Wildemount will have no content that has appeared in the Tal'Dorei campaign guide, and Matt Mercer has explicitly said it's because it's because it was published under Green Ronin, not WotC.
Also not sure why you quoted the same quote/reply three times.
I think some things may need to be clarified as there seems to be some slight confusion.
Unearthed Arcana is playtest material which means they were made by Wizards of the Coast for future books, made, developed and published by them. It is to allow the public to give feedback so that the product is the best it can be, which means some things may never see the light of day as the concept as a whole or method of implementation did not survey well and therefore it will be altered. See how some UA subclasses change the class they are attached to, like Giant Soul Sorceror becoming Rune Knight FIghter.
Third party published material is not like UA at all. They each will have gone through varying degrees of rigirous playtesting and are as finalised a product as any of the books released by WotC that you can buy on DnDBeyond. However these companies are working seperatly from WotC. While WotC most bring them in to talk about their products on their podcasts and may advertise their products. These are seperate companies making products for their own profit in WotC's system. As these companies are not WotC they are not considered officical content for things such as Adventurers League. That is not to say they are broken or overpowered many of this content is good and enables DMs and playgroups the ability to have more content for different kinds of group and not require Wizards to pump out so many books to keep the masses happy. As such these materials will NEVER become offical Wizards content. Though you may find due to the way design spaces work, settings similar (or potentially for extremely popular settings ala Exandria Wizards may make official planes, though a question does then come as to legalities of IP ownership and such) when it comes to clases likewise you will find 3rd party material may influence design ideas but will 99% not be ported over.
It is worth saying alot of third party content not via DMs guild will most likely not touch official settings if you are concerned about that as third party tools must work with the publicly available SRD. Hence why most mechanics and subclasses will be linked to a custom setting with potentially custom adventures as with the above Dragonlords setting. I personally have found the Dragonlord content to be good but with third party content it really comes the DM looking at content and going am I ok with this which it is legitimate to want to do or not want to do.
WIth putting it on this site it is a complicated issue as you will have to have agreeing to whatever licensing deal is made WotC, Fandom (DnDBeyond), Mophidius and the actual development team. Which is largly why I believe you do not see third party material here is there are too many parties involved to make it happen at least in a way that does not have a negative impact on another aspect of the service (either due to having to make complicated methods of displaying in the UI it is third party and seperating it or potentially it being more expensive than ususal due to the number of people needing to be paid for the content as part of any deals).
But yes the main purpose of this was to remove confusion of third party is effectivly UA content that may be official after a period of time which is not what third party content is at all.
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You have it on roll20, why not on DDB? third party is ok on one platform but not the other? makes no sense. we can buy the adventure on roll20 but we cant make characters for it on DDB. dumb
You have it on roll20, why not on DDB? third party is ok on one platform but not the other? makes no sense. we can buy the adventure on roll20 but we cant make characters for it on DDB. dumb
Because roll20 and D&D Beyond are different companies with different licensing agreements and business models.
You have it on roll20, why not on DDB? third party is ok on one platform but not the other? makes no sense. we can buy the adventure on roll20 but we cant make characters for it on DDB. dumb
Roll20 and DDB are two very separate and different companies. Why can I get chocolates from my local corner shop but not from the bank? Because the bank hasn't jumped through the hoops necessary to sell them.
DDB has dedicated their limited resources to official content (which they still lag behind on, by the way) rather than trying to do 3rd party as well, which would end up being instead of official content. Could they do 3rd party content? Sure. That would also mean dedicating staff to doing it, which is staff not working on official content, and that's not their strategy.
Maybe they'll get more staff and we'll see 3rd party content. We'll see.
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While D&D Beyond has been acquired by Wizards of the Coast and is now owned by them, the same is not true of roll20, who are still an independent company, one that supports not just third party content, but multiple systems. They operate very differently to D&D Beyond.
Also the fact that Wizards of the Coast now owns D&D Beyond actually makes it less likely that third party content would be supported, not more. D&D Beyond is now the official first party platform of D&D fifth edition.
Roll20 has it, dnd beyond does not. That’s my point. I think we are not understanding each other
Yes, because they are different companies with different business models and licensing agreements. It's like how McDonalds sells Coke and KFC sells Pepsi.
They are owned by the same company as of this year. But thanks for your snarky incorrect comment. See if your bank has that chocolate you wanted
It wasn't snarky or incorrect. Just as the bank has decided that they don't want to jump through the correct hoops to sell food, DDB has decided they don't want to jump through the hoops necessary to sell 3rd party content. They could, but they've decided to concentrate on official content - which they are struggling to do. WotC owning DDB instead of Fandom actually makes.it less likely they'll go for 3rd party content, since DDB is now an official outlet for WotC instead of just operating on franchise like it was. Roll20 is a completely separate company and has decided that they want to go to the effort of having 3rd party content.
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Going back to your original question, what exactly are you looking for? Odyssey is currently available on drive thru as a pdf, which you own outright and is platform independent. Gimp will allow you to pull images and you can homebrew classes. Everything you need to run it with D&D Beyond is already there. Is there anything more than what is already available to you, based on the above, that direct purchase from D&D Beyond will give you?
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Is there any way we can get D&D Beyond to get Odyssey of the Dragonlords added to the site?
DDB is currently only hosting official content from Wizards of the Coast, no third party content
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DDB staff want to provide 3rd party content, but there are legal reasons (probably more than one) why they can't.
And, I'm honestly very fine with that. I understand it's all a game and rules can be manipulated for the fun of the group. However, I rather enjoy keeping everything in my campaigns official as that puts some consistency to the content that gives it more....authenticity. And, I know everything official once started in a home-brew setting. But, once it's released, it has been through the rigors, play-tests, review, refining, etc to get to where it's at. Honestly, I prefer that over obscure third party content that may not link up well with what has been established.
Basically, the bottom line falls down to trust. I trust WotC has the best interests in mind for D&D now and going into the future. As I trust the developers of D&D Beyond working in according with WotC. I trust their interests and motives pushing the game and concept into the future. And, though third parties have great ideas and can add nice stuff...I just don't trust that it measures to the standard I've associated with what can and is labeled official content.
I would label third party items as such. And as time goes on it may be worked into official items.
Isn't that basically what Unearthed Arcana is...stuff that may become official that is still being play tested?
So far no third-party published content has ever been worked into 5e. For example, Explorer's Guide to Wildemount will have no content that has appeared in the Tal'Dorei campaign guide, and Matt Mercer has explicitly said it's because it's because it was published under Green Ronin, not WotC.
Also not sure why you quoted the same quote/reply three times.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
I think some things may need to be clarified as there seems to be some slight confusion.
Unearthed Arcana is playtest material which means they were made by Wizards of the Coast for future books, made, developed and published by them. It is to allow the public to give feedback so that the product is the best it can be, which means some things may never see the light of day as the concept as a whole or method of implementation did not survey well and therefore it will be altered. See how some UA subclasses change the class they are attached to, like Giant Soul Sorceror becoming Rune Knight FIghter.
Third party published material is not like UA at all. They each will have gone through varying degrees of rigirous playtesting and are as finalised a product as any of the books released by WotC that you can buy on DnDBeyond. However these companies are working seperatly from WotC. While WotC most bring them in to talk about their products on their podcasts and may advertise their products. These are seperate companies making products for their own profit in WotC's system. As these companies are not WotC they are not considered officical content for things such as Adventurers League. That is not to say they are broken or overpowered many of this content is good and enables DMs and playgroups the ability to have more content for different kinds of group and not require Wizards to pump out so many books to keep the masses happy. As such these materials will NEVER become offical Wizards content. Though you may find due to the way design spaces work, settings similar (or potentially for extremely popular settings ala Exandria Wizards may make official planes, though a question does then come as to legalities of IP ownership and such) when it comes to clases likewise you will find 3rd party material may influence design ideas but will 99% not be ported over.
It is worth saying alot of third party content not via DMs guild will most likely not touch official settings if you are concerned about that as third party tools must work with the publicly available SRD. Hence why most mechanics and subclasses will be linked to a custom setting with potentially custom adventures as with the above Dragonlords setting. I personally have found the Dragonlord content to be good but with third party content it really comes the DM looking at content and going am I ok with this which it is legitimate to want to do or not want to do.
WIth putting it on this site it is a complicated issue as you will have to have agreeing to whatever licensing deal is made WotC, Fandom (DnDBeyond), Mophidius and the actual development team. Which is largly why I believe you do not see third party material here is there are too many parties involved to make it happen at least in a way that does not have a negative impact on another aspect of the service (either due to having to make complicated methods of displaying in the UI it is third party and seperating it or potentially it being more expensive than ususal due to the number of people needing to be paid for the content as part of any deals).
But yes the main purpose of this was to remove confusion of third party is effectivly UA content that may be official after a period of time which is not what third party content is at all.
Loex - A Lizardfolk Lvl 4/7/4 Hexblade Profane Blood Hunter/ Battlesmith Artificer/ Cleric of the Forge
Arborea - A Warforged Lvl 5 Hexblade Warlock
Archive - A Autognome Lvl 3 Old One Warlock
ER15 - A Autognome Lvl 7 Binder Warlock
DM - "Malign Intelligence"
Still, it would be very nice to have Odyssey of the Dragonlords here...
You have it on roll20, why not on DDB? third party is ok on one platform but not the other? makes no sense. we can buy the adventure on roll20 but we cant make characters for it on DDB. dumb
Because roll20 and D&D Beyond are different companies with different licensing agreements and business models.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Roll20 and DDB are two very separate and different companies. Why can I get chocolates from my local corner shop but not from the bank? Because the bank hasn't jumped through the hoops necessary to sell them.
DDB has dedicated their limited resources to official content (which they still lag behind on, by the way) rather than trying to do 3rd party as well, which would end up being instead of official content. Could they do 3rd party content? Sure. That would also mean dedicating staff to doing it, which is staff not working on official content, and that's not their strategy.
Maybe they'll get more staff and we'll see 3rd party content. We'll see.
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They are owned by the same company as of this year. But thanks for your snarky incorrect comment. See if your bank has that chocolate you wanted
While D&D Beyond has been acquired by Wizards of the Coast and is now owned by them, the same is not true of roll20, who are still an independent company, one that supports not just third party content, but multiple systems. They operate very differently to D&D Beyond.
Also the fact that Wizards of the Coast now owns D&D Beyond actually makes it less likely that third party content would be supported, not more. D&D Beyond is now the official first party platform of D&D fifth edition.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Roll20 has it, dnd beyond does not. That’s my point. I think we are not understanding each other
What does the fact that Roll20 having it have to do with DnDBeyond?
DnDBeyond is owned by WotC. Roll20 is owned by The Orr Group, LLC. They are not the same company.
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Yes, because they are different companies with different business models and licensing agreements. It's like how McDonalds sells Coke and KFC sells Pepsi.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
It wasn't snarky or incorrect. Just as the bank has decided that they don't want to jump through the correct hoops to sell food, DDB has decided they don't want to jump through the hoops necessary to sell 3rd party content. They could, but they've decided to concentrate on official content - which they are struggling to do. WotC owning DDB instead of Fandom actually makes.it less likely they'll go for 3rd party content, since DDB is now an official outlet for WotC instead of just operating on franchise like it was. Roll20 is a completely separate company and has decided that they want to go to the effort of having 3rd party content.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Going back to your original question, what exactly are you looking for? Odyssey is currently available on drive thru as a pdf, which you own outright and is platform independent. Gimp will allow you to pull images and you can homebrew classes. Everything you need to run it with D&D Beyond is already there. Is there anything more than what is already available to you, based on the above, that direct purchase from D&D Beyond will give you?