Any ideas for cool multiclassing with these subclasses?
I put together a Conquest Pally/Echo Knight. Because the attacks from the EK are your attacks you can smite on them. Giving you pretty substantial range and flexibility and Shadow Martyr gives you even more protective options. And the Shadow Avatar gives you the scouting ability of a familiar, if a bit less sneaky. I went with 11 Fighter/9 Pally but I'm unsure if going 12/8 is better. 3rd level smites(because 3rd level Pally spells aren't great) vs an extra ASI/Feat. Zariel Tiefling for the stat boosts and some spare Smite spells. I think it's dope but who knows if I'll ever get to play it.
Yeah, multiclassing with paladin seems good.
Echo Knight and Rogue seems like it could be good. You and your echo knight goes up to an enemy, and have your echo get sneak attack on every attack, from you being within 5 feet of the enemy.
Yeah I thought about the same thing today. Sneak attack while staying safely at a distance. Could be dope with Crossbow expert. Action to stab with sneak attack from the echo and then get that bonus action shot with the hand crossbow from a safe distance. I can only imagine it would be so confusing. to be on the receiving end of that. lol
Echo Knight seems cool to multiclass with Moon Druids. You can turn both of you into beasts, kind of. The Echo doesn't actually transform, but it can deliver bite attacks, and tentacle attacks, and a ton of other natural weapon attacks.
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Should be able to. Grapple is a special attack that replaces one of your Attack action attacks - and when making an attack you can decide if it comes from the Echo or you. So I don't see why you couldn't make the Echo grapple someone.
Should be able to. Grapple is a special attack that replaces one of your Attack action attacks - and when making an attack you can decide if it comes from the Echo or you. So I don't see why you couldn't make the Echo grapple someone.
That's my reasoning too
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The text says "When you take the Attack action on your turn, any attack you make with that action can originate from your space or the echo’s space." Grappling isn't an attack, properly, but I wouldn't be opposed to allowing it.
Except that Grappling - like Shoving - very much is an attack and can replace one of your Attack action attacks.
Grappling
When you want to grab a creature or wrestle with it, you can use the Attack action to make a special melee attack, a grapple. If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.
Except that Grappling - like Shoving - very much is an attack and can replace one of your Attack action attacks.
“Grappling
When you want to grab a creature or wrestle with it, you can use the Attack action to make a special melee attack, a grapple. If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.”
Yeah, on second thought, extrapolating from this Crawford tweet doesn't seem to apply to this context.
Yeah I thought about the same thing today. Sneak attack while staying safely at a distance. Could be dope with Crossbow expert. Action to stab with sneak attack from the echo and then get that bonus action shot with the hand crossbow from a safe distance. I can only imagine it would be so confusing. to be on the receiving end of that. lol
Echo Knight seems cool to multiclass with Moon Druids. You can turn both of you into beasts, kind of. The Echo doesn't actually transform, but it can deliver bite attacks, and tentacle attacks, and a ton of other natural weapon attacks.
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Unfinished thought: echoes may not be able to grapple, but they can attack with nets!
You can grapple with the echo, can't you?
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Should be able to. Grapple is a special attack that replaces one of your Attack action attacks - and when making an attack you can decide if it comes from the Echo or you. So I don't see why you couldn't make the Echo grapple someone.
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Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
That's my reasoning too
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The text says "When you take the Attack action on your turn, any attack you make with that action can originate from your space or the echo’s space." Grappling isn't an attack, properly, but I wouldn't be opposed to allowing it.
Except that Grappling - like Shoving - very much is an attack and can replace one of your Attack action attacks.
Mega Yahtzee Thread:
Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
Yeah, on second thought, extrapolating from this Crawford tweet doesn't seem to apply to this context.
I agree, RAW the Echo can grapple. No reason why allowing it would break the game, or abuse the game mechanic, or anything like that.
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The Graviturgist looks like a great Lv2 dip for a Eldrich Knight. Actually looks like a good subclass for wizard gish in general.
Yeah, does seem good. A gravity based fighter would be cool, as well, if we ever get more dunamancy subclasses.
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Not likely, at least while CR is still in campaign 2. On the bright side, that leaves plenty of room for homebrewers.
Yep, I'm going to make a DMsGuild pdf for expanded Dunamancy. Maybe include new spells, an Artificer subclass, and a few others.
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