Hello everyone, I was surprised with a physical copy of Rime of the Frostmaiden by my girlfriend and she said that there was a key for D&D Beyond supposed to be in the book as well, but we couldn't find one. So I want to ask you, especially those of you, that own more than one physical copy already, if there should be a key and where I could find it or if we made a mistake here.
There are no keys to be found inside any of the physical books. Keys for products and discounts have only occurred in three instances:
The Essentials Kit included a code for a free copy of the adventure (and its three follow up adventures) on D&D Beyond. This was possible due it being a sealed box
The Essentials Kit also included a code for 50% off the Player's Handbook on D&D Beyond. This again was because the product was a sealed box
There was a limited offer run through certain gaming stores where a pre-order of Mythic Odysseys of Theros could come with a 50% off code for the D&D Beyond copy. This was in limited numbers (I believe 20 codes per approved store) and only for pre orders. it was handled by the store distributing the codes.
D&D Beyond is a separate company from Wizards of the Coast and as such no revenue from the physical books goes towards this site. The three above examples were exceptions that were, for the most part, trials in various options. As a general rule, no book includes a code or means of redemption on D&D Beyond.
No code included, open book so potential buyers can thumb through a book at a store. I call it the "Traditional"
Sealed version with a redeem code at a MSRP markup. Physical and a Dndbeyond copy. "best of both worlds".
Code to redeem card, like xbox live cards that need to be scanned at POS. Cheaper than printing books and provides a opportunity to upsell those buying "Traditional"
No code included, open book so potential buyers can thumb through a book at a store. I call it the "Traditional"
Sealed version with a redeem code at a MSRP markup. Physical and a Dndbeyond copy. "best of both worlds".
Code to redeem card, like xbox live cards that need to be scanned at POS. Cheaper than printing books and provides a opportunity to upsell those buying "Traditional"
please read the above post as to why this is not possible
SKU bloat is a blight for stores. No store owner enjoys the conundrum of having to figure out how many each of several versions of essentially the same product to stock.
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I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
You say you understand they are not the same company, but then you talk as if they are.
"Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site."
We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.
This topic has been discussed to death. Scanning a barcode is the easiest thing in the world to pirate (barcodes are unique per book, not per copy of a book) and uploading a receipt is next to impossible to implement since bookstores don't use universal receipts. Most customers who do buy books here do so for the integrated functionality, not just for the books' contents.
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I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
I hope that we're not under the assumption that if a code was included with the book, it would remain at the same price. You do understand that placing a code in the book would essentially double the cost, right? Under no circumstances would the D&D Beyond product just be assumed "free". Likewise, we also cannot assume that WOTC is just going to eat the cost of giving away D&D Beyond access because -> nobody is working for free <-.
In the current model, those who don't want either digital or physical have the option to only purchase the medium of their choice. Why raise the costs for everyone when not everyone desires both products?
I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
We bought a physical copy of the book, should not have to also purchase a digital copy.
I bought a book in a bookstore, should I get it for free on my kindle?
I bought a copy of a game for PS4...i should get it for free on Xbox right?
No, no I shouldn't. Neither should you.
They're separate companies, paying one does not pay the other. If you cannot understand that, I wish you luck.
May be what they should look into is selling both a physical copy with the digital copy and a reduced price or sell hard copies and either discount or include the digital. The only other option I could see is working a deal with some online seller that would mail a code on purchase. I don't see either happening. Personally I have a hard time spending that much on books and not having a physical copy. I love the service and will continue to sub just not sure I will ever buy the books unless they are hugely marked down.
I thought the first Beadle and Grimm's also had codes for Dndbeyond in them (I maybe mistaken, but I could have sworn they were)
I think you are right.. but Beadle And Grimm probably made a deal with D&D Beyond for that… where they buy a bunch of codes or pay for the codes that get used..
So using codes in books is possible but because you have different companies involved it will get tricky..
Buy a book for 30 bucks or buy it for 50 but with 50 edition you’ll get a redeemable code or something like that for dndbeyond… but enough about this topic.
it is normal you get what you buy and 99% of the companies will not give you acces to that product over different platforms owned by different companies with different deals for said content..
The Beadle and Grimm boxes are just that, boxed products (like the Essentials Kit) and they're also premium priced. You're paying extra for lots of frills and one of those might be a D&D Beyond code. Price wise, it's not really any different from just buying the book on D&D Beyond at the price listed here (you're not likely saving anything buying the B&G box).
Beedle and Grimm's is also a much smaller niche "bespoke" market. Like Davyd outlined, they're basically buying the DDB edition of the book for you as part of the $500 box. It's sort of the opposite of "DDB should be free with WotC purchase" because you're basically paying a huge premium for Beedle and Grimm to sort of be a personal shopper.
Also note B&G's boxed sets are very limited, I don't think they've done a run of anything, at least platinum editions that was over a 1000.
All that said, it does seem that Curse of Strahd Revamped was an experiment in testing the market for WotC to do B&G style enhanced editions of content a shot. I got a sneaking suspicons we may see something like that in the 2022 settings products in a format "we haven't done before." I'm pretty sure B&G has come up in D&D surveys. The Curse of Strahd Boxed set had a "was it worth it?" question if you identified as an owner, with follow up questions as to what a prestige boxed set should contain. That coupled with questions about D&D Beyond usage on the survey results in "who knows?" how D&D will be distributed over the next few years. [soapbox]I do hope for the sake of the hobby though that anything put out in a "prestige" format by WotC in house is released simultaneously with more broadly accessibly priced content of the same sort (in other words you don't need to buy the luxury edition for the content, even if it's just a DMsGuild release).
Just checked B&G sites, it looks like the DDB content bundled only occurs with the Platinum Editions which are pre-ordered and timed release product. I think they even ask you for your DDB Account, so I think they basically buy the book for you.
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I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
They're separate companies, paying one does not pay the other. If you cannot understand that, I wish you luck.
When you purchase books on DDB much of the money goes directly to WOTC, clearly you don't understand that. So yeah they get paid twice, and the cost for the second purchase is near zero for them.
How would DnD Beyond make money if they just included a free copy of their books in a Wizards of the Coast Product?
Aside from the logistics of trying to include codes in books that can be stolen or pirated, aside from the fact that the two are different companies, at the end of the day if there were both a digital copy and a hard cover copy included in a purchase, it would cost $90. How do you think people who don't use DnD Beyond are going to take to paying for something they aren't going to use?
And if they sell for $60? Who takes the $30 hit? Wizards? Hell no, they make the product. DnD Beyond? Then they're just giving their products away and the platform dies because it doesn't have to money to hire valuable talent that creates a cool platform for us to use.
I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
They're separate companies, paying one does not pay the other. If you cannot understand that, I wish you luck.
When you purchase books on DDB much of the money goes directly to WOTC, clearly you don't understand that. So yeah they get paid twice, and the cost for the second purchase is near zero for them.
Whether the situation is unfair or not isn't half as pertinent as whether something can be done about it. If you have a feasible solution by all means bring it up (even though I expect it'd be something for WotC to do, and these aren't their forums so odds of them even being aware of the existence of these threads are sort of long); the thing is, however, that we've hashed out why the options that get brought up aren't actually all that feasible across many threads already. I'm sure just about everyone agrees there's room for improvement. I'm sure that knowing what's known now things would get set up differently if WotC and DDB had to do it all over again, and not just this aspect of their relationship either (there might not be a DDB in such a scenario though, WotC might well prefer giving the everything in-house approach another try given how things have turned out the last couple of years). But hindsight's 20/20, so that doesn't count, and the past can't be changed. The question isn't whether things could be better, the question is how they could be better taking into account the reality of the situation. And nobody's come up with a good answer to that question so far.
Hello everyone,I was surprised with a physical copy of Rime of the Frostmaiden by my girlfriend and she said that there was a key for D&D Beyond supposed to be in the book as well, but we couldn't find one. So I want to ask you, especially those of you, that own more than one physical copy already, if there should be a key and where I could find it or if we made a mistake here.
Thanks in advance. :D
There are no keys to be found inside any of the physical books. Keys for products and discounts have only occurred in three instances:
D&D Beyond is a separate company from Wizards of the Coast and as such no revenue from the physical books goes towards this site. The three above examples were exceptions that were, for the most part, trials in various options. As a general rule, no book includes a code or means of redemption on D&D Beyond.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
This is most unfortunate.
I suggest 3 sku's
please read the above post as to why this is not possible
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SKU bloat is a blight for stores. No store owner enjoys the conundrum of having to figure out how many each of several versions of essentially the same product to stock.
Want to start playing but don't have anyone to play with? You can try these options: [link].
I understand DDB is a separate company working with Wotc this something the 2 companies should work out. We have purchased a physical copy of the Books we should not have to also purchase a digital copy. We should be able to scan the baroda or even better upload the receipt of purchase to DDB then once acknowledged it should be uploaded to our accounts.makevyour money of subscriptions and add ons. New themes, dice, add ons. 1.99-5.99. They say D&D has never been more popular than now. Draw more people to your sight by giving them a reason to use your site.
"No matter where you go there you are."
You say you understand they are not the same company, but then you talk as if they are.
This topic has been discussed to death. Scanning a barcode is the easiest thing in the world to pirate (barcodes are unique per book, not per copy of a book) and uploading a receipt is next to impossible to implement since bookstores don't use universal receipts. Most customers who do buy books here do so for the integrated functionality, not just for the books' contents.
Want to start playing but don't have anyone to play with? You can try these options: [link].
I hope that we're not under the assumption that if a code was included with the book, it would remain at the same price. You do understand that placing a code in the book would essentially double the cost, right? Under no circumstances would the D&D Beyond product just be assumed "free". Likewise, we also cannot assume that WOTC is just going to eat the cost of giving away D&D Beyond access because -> nobody is working for free <-.
In the current model, those who don't want either digital or physical have the option to only purchase the medium of their choice. Why raise the costs for everyone when not everyone desires both products?
We bought a physical copy of the book, should not have to also purchase a digital copy.
I bought a book in a bookstore, should I get it for free on my kindle?
I bought a copy of a game for PS4...i should get it for free on Xbox right?
No, no I shouldn't. Neither should you.
They're separate companies, paying one does not pay the other. If you cannot understand that, I wish you luck.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/d-d-beyond-feedback/96069-hardcover-books-d-d-beyond-and-you-faq
May be what they should look into is selling both a physical copy with the digital copy and a reduced price or sell hard copies and either discount or include the digital. The only other option I could see is working a deal with some online seller that would mail a code on purchase. I don't see either happening. Personally I have a hard time spending that much on books and not having a physical copy. I love the service and will continue to sub just not sure I will ever buy the books unless they are hugely marked down.
I thought the first Beadle and Grimm's also had codes for Dndbeyond in them (I maybe mistaken, but I could have sworn they were)
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
I think you are right.. but Beadle And Grimm probably made a deal with D&D Beyond for that… where they buy a bunch of codes or pay for the codes that get used..
So using codes in books is possible but because you have different companies involved it will get tricky..
Buy a book for 30 bucks or buy it for 50 but with 50 edition you’ll get a redeemable code or something like that for dndbeyond… but enough about this topic.
it is normal you get what you buy and 99% of the companies will not give you acces to that product over different platforms owned by different companies with different deals for said content..
i think the topic can be closed :P
The Beadle and Grimm boxes are just that, boxed products (like the Essentials Kit) and they're also premium priced. You're paying extra for lots of frills and one of those might be a D&D Beyond code. Price wise, it's not really any different from just buying the book on D&D Beyond at the price listed here (you're not likely saving anything buying the B&G box).
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Beedle and Grimm's is also a much smaller niche "bespoke" market. Like Davyd outlined, they're basically buying the DDB edition of the book for you as part of the $500 box. It's sort of the opposite of "DDB should be free with WotC purchase" because you're basically paying a huge premium for Beedle and Grimm to sort of be a personal shopper.
Also note B&G's boxed sets are very limited, I don't think they've done a run of anything, at least platinum editions that was over a 1000.
All that said, it does seem that Curse of Strahd Revamped was an experiment in testing the market for WotC to do B&G style enhanced editions of content a shot. I got a sneaking suspicons we may see something like that in the 2022 settings products in a format "we haven't done before." I'm pretty sure B&G has come up in D&D surveys. The Curse of Strahd Boxed set had a "was it worth it?" question if you identified as an owner, with follow up questions as to what a prestige boxed set should contain. That coupled with questions about D&D Beyond usage on the survey results in "who knows?" how D&D will be distributed over the next few years. [soapbox]I do hope for the sake of the hobby though that anything put out in a "prestige" format by WotC in house is released simultaneously with more broadly accessibly priced content of the same sort (in other words you don't need to buy the luxury edition for the content, even if it's just a DMsGuild release).
Just checked B&G sites, it looks like the DDB content bundled only occurs with the Platinum Editions which are pre-ordered and timed release product. I think they even ask you for your DDB Account, so I think they basically buy the book for you.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
When you purchase books on DDB much of the money goes directly to WOTC, clearly you don't understand that. So yeah they get paid twice, and the cost for the second purchase is near zero for them.
How would DnD Beyond make money if they just included a free copy of their books in a Wizards of the Coast Product?
Aside from the logistics of trying to include codes in books that can be stolen or pirated, aside from the fact that the two are different companies, at the end of the day if there were both a digital copy and a hard cover copy included in a purchase, it would cost $90. How do you think people who don't use DnD Beyond are going to take to paying for something they aren't going to use?
And if they sell for $60? Who takes the $30 hit? Wizards? Hell no, they make the product. DnD Beyond? Then they're just giving their products away and the platform dies because it doesn't have to money to hire valuable talent that creates a cool platform for us to use.
Just curious, do people have the same discussion on Roll20 and FantasyGrounds with the same incessant frequency?
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Whether the situation is unfair or not isn't half as pertinent as whether something can be done about it. If you have a feasible solution by all means bring it up (even though I expect it'd be something for WotC to do, and these aren't their forums so odds of them even being aware of the existence of these threads are sort of long); the thing is, however, that we've hashed out why the options that get brought up aren't actually all that feasible across many threads already. I'm sure just about everyone agrees there's room for improvement. I'm sure that knowing what's known now things would get set up differently if WotC and DDB had to do it all over again, and not just this aspect of their relationship either (there might not be a DDB in such a scenario though, WotC might well prefer giving the everything in-house approach another try given how things have turned out the last couple of years). But hindsight's 20/20, so that doesn't count, and the past can't be changed. The question isn't whether things could be better, the question is how they could be better taking into account the reality of the situation. And nobody's come up with a good answer to that question so far.
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