Wizards of the Coast gave us everything they needed to play d&d until we fade to dust with the creative Commons update.
This is a blatant attempt to force everyone to buy their new product by forcing inconveniences upon their customers.
Been a master tier subscriber basically since this site started. So many things are still not finished and you're removing features..
Still can't make custom warlock invocations, still can't make custom common non-magical equipment. And then you pull stuff out and make it harder to use your system?
You are out of touch, this gaming community is not the same as a bunch of Bros playing Halo in 2003.
Out of touch, and not getting my money anymore.
Those touting the new spells as improvements keep forgetting that there are also spells that got nerfed, and some rather drastically.
I was involved in a playtest last week for the 2024 PHB and decided to create a wizard. I took the Find Familiar spell, only to discover that in the 2024 editions the mechanic for Familiars has been so drastically nerfed that the spell went from being a must-have on the wizard's spell list to a why bother. I was told that Familiars can no longer use the help action, they can't deliver touch spells-a major help for a squishy class, and doesn't aid you or your allies with flanking. They went from being an important of the team to nothing more than a decorative shoulder pet that can scout ahead if they're quiet enough.
Find Familiar is not the only spell affected in this manner. Yes, I can homebrew the spell, and most likely will. But, unless a player is aware of the spell changes, they will be in for a rude awakening when they see the new text after the 3rd. Homebrewing, at that point is going to require a lot more than clicking on the current form of the spell and adding it to your homebrew collection. This will be true for all spells with changes.
I also found it very telling that I couldn't find the wording for the 2024 Find Familiar spell when I did a google search. Only the 2014 version came up.
Bro! Whoever told you that lied to you. I am looking at the 2024 Find Familiar spell, and other than a rearrangement of the paragraphs, the spell is almost the same as 2014 (brass brazier no longer part of the material component; you're no longer Blind or Deaf while using the familiar senses). Don't believe me? Check the timestamp (6:06) on this Video
My guess is that they were using the Playtest version of the spell, which was nerfed and no one liked. That version was scrapped.
Thanks for that clarification! We were doing the playtest with a copy of the book someone got at GenCon, and only one of us had had the chance to look through it, but they may have misinterpreted how the help action and other aspects associated with that spell work with the 2024 system. I know there were changes to some things like Help, Hide, etc type of actions that we, as a group, may have gotten wrong. I think once the edition is more widely available these types of things will get worked out.
Thanks for that clarification! We were doing the playtest with a copy of the book someone got at GenCon, and only one of us had had the chance to look through it, but they may have misinterpreted how the help action and other aspects associated with that spell work with the 2024 system. I know there were changes to some things like Help, Hide, etc type of actions that we, as a group, may have gotten wrong. I think once the edition is more widely available these types of things will get worked out.
To clarify, the touch spell bit is specifically there. The familiar just has to be within 100 feet of you. It's easy to miss since it's the second paragraph in a section titled "Telepathic Connection".
The help action is covered under "A familiar can't attack, but it can take other actions as normal"
I wonder how much of a change they are making with the spells and items. I mean, I've been playing since the late 70s, so I get the new versions can do minor rewrites, change entire classifications and descriptions, or just plainly remove things all together. This version, however, seems more akin to when 3 transitioned to 3.5, and by that I mean, yes, they've relabled and redefined some things, but generally it seems they can't change too much or the idea of things being backward compatible won't work well together. Just a thought.
I don’t plan on using any of the 2024 6e materials. There are a lot more D&D players out there who have no intentions on switching over to another edition. I do believe that many will drop DDB and go back to “old school” sessions. I absolutely loved how DDB simplified everything concerning character creation, but I have no issues returning to pen/pencil & paper ( or homebrew digital sheets ). I’ve purchased the books I need to run D&D for years to come. There are plenty of 3rd party publishers out there also to help out with the creative process to.
So when DDB no long provides me with the tools to support my gaming requirements, then I will cancel my subscription, and move on. I have been playing D&D since the early 80’s without all this hi-tech digital stuff, and I can go back doing so again.
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So are they refunding every digital book that people have bought that can't be used now?
All of the books are still usable. Read the update.
The problem is that tooltips and links are going to use/point to 5e24 content. D&D Beyond is taking away the tools people have used for years. There needs to be a toggle so that all tooltips, links, and builders either use the revised content or 5e14 content. It does not matter if we have access to the 5e14 MM if all the adventures and links point to the 5e24 MM statblocks. You are making it way harder for people to continue using D&D Beyond for their 5e14 campaigns than it should be.
If a toggle isn't implemented, there needs to be a class action lawsuit to force refunds.
So are they refunding every digital book that people have bought that can't be used now?
All of the books are still usable. Read the update.
The problem is that tooltips and links are going to use/point to 5e24 content. D&D Beyond is taking away the tools people have used for years. There needs to be a toggle so that all tooltips, links, and builders either use the revised content or 5e14 content. It does not matter if we have access to the 5e14 MM if all the adventures and links point to the 5e24 MM statblocks. You are making it way harder for people to continue using D&D Beyond for their 5e14 campaigns than it should be.
If a toggle isn't implemented, there needs to be a class action lawsuit to force refunds.
The books are still 99% usable both inside the character sheet and out. You're being awfully dramatic over that last 1%.
So are they refunding every digital book that people have bought that can't be used now?
All of the books are still usable. Read the update.
The problem is that tooltips and links are going to use/point to 5e24 content. D&D Beyond is taking away the tools people have used for years. There needs to be a toggle so that all tooltips, links, and builders either use the revised content or 5e14 content. It does not matter if we have access to the 5e14 MM if all the adventures and links point to the 5e24 MM statblocks. You are making it way harder for people to continue using D&D Beyond for their 5e14 campaigns than it should be.
If a toggle isn't implemented, there needs to be a class action lawsuit to force refunds.
The books are still 99% usable both inside the character sheet and out. You're being awfully dramatic over that last 1%.
The point is that all the tooltips in all the books are going to change. That is more than just one percent. You're not being dramatic enough.
I second JW_III comment. A slider to turn off all 2024 content would clean up the UI for all of us that are not ready to move forward. Especially for folks that have many 2014 long-running campaigns. I know you guys can do it! Just like you filter all the other stuff.
How do I turn off the new spells? I don't own or want to use the 2024 stuff. I don't really care if the old versions of spells say (Legacy), but I want to continue using those spells as I have been for the past 5 years without the new versions clogging my spell lists.
The Lance is still busted and shows 1d10 dmg (2024) with no way to interface the 1d12 dmg (2014) into the weapon mechanics. Homebrewing, which supposedly is not required, doesn’t work because of the hardcode lance data.
I support a 2024 toggle. You can look up my spending history.
Yo, can anyone who has the 2024 PHB tell me what does the tooltips of spells refer to? The 2014 version or the 2024 version? Cuz I don't wanna buy the new PHB if it affects my spell tooltips.
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Bro! Whoever told you that lied to you. I am looking at the 2024 Find Familiar spell, and other than a rearrangement of the paragraphs, the spell is almost the same as 2014 (brass brazier no longer part of the material component; you're no longer Blind or Deaf while using the familiar senses). Don't believe me? Check the timestamp (6:06) on this Video
My guess is that they were using the Playtest version of the spell, which was nerfed and no one liked. That version was scrapped.
Thanks for that clarification! We were doing the playtest with a copy of the book someone got at GenCon, and only one of us had had the chance to look through it, but they may have misinterpreted how the help action and other aspects associated with that spell work with the 2024 system. I know there were changes to some things like Help, Hide, etc type of actions that we, as a group, may have gotten wrong. I think once the edition is more widely available these types of things will get worked out.
To clarify, the touch spell bit is specifically there. The familiar just has to be within 100 feet of you. It's easy to miss since it's the second paragraph in a section titled "Telepathic Connection".
The help action is covered under "A familiar can't attack, but it can take other actions as normal"
I got the book at Gen Con.
I'm glad they finally did the smart thing, and treated 2024 like any other book release.
Hey, maybe we'll be able to go a month without WotC doing something anti-consumer and boneheaded, going forward. That'd be nice.
I wonder how much of a change they are making with the spells and items. I mean, I've been playing since the late 70s, so I get the new versions can do minor rewrites, change entire classifications and descriptions, or just plainly remove things all together. This version, however, seems more akin to when 3 transitioned to 3.5, and by that I mean, yes, they've relabled and redefined some things, but generally it seems they can't change too much or the idea of things being backward compatible won't work well together. Just a thought.
I don’t plan on using any of the 2024 6e materials. There are a lot more D&D players out there who have no intentions on switching over to another edition. I do believe that many will drop DDB and go back to “old school” sessions. I absolutely loved how DDB simplified everything concerning character creation, but I have no issues returning to pen/pencil & paper ( or homebrew digital sheets ). I’ve purchased the books I need to run D&D for years to come. There are plenty of 3rd party publishers out there also to help out with the creative process to.
So when DDB no long provides me with the tools to support my gaming requirements, then I will cancel my subscription, and move on. I have been playing D&D since the early 80’s without all this hi-tech digital stuff, and I can go back doing so again.
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It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
So are they refunding every digital book that people have bought that can't be used now?
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The problem is that tooltips and links are going to use/point to 5e24 content. D&D Beyond is taking away the tools people have used for years. There needs to be a toggle so that all tooltips, links, and builders either use the revised content or 5e14 content. It does not matter if we have access to the 5e14 MM if all the adventures and links point to the 5e24 MM statblocks. You are making it way harder for people to continue using D&D Beyond for their 5e14 campaigns than it should be.
If a toggle isn't implemented, there needs to be a class action lawsuit to force refunds.
Does someone know when exactly the tools and the 2024 PBH get released to Master subscription members?
Tomorrow after the maintenance is completed. 5 am to 9 am Pacific.
So excited. I can't wait.
The books are still 99% usable both inside the character sheet and out. You're being awfully dramatic over that last 1%.
The point is that all the tooltips in all the books are going to change. That is more than just one percent. You're not being dramatic enough.
You're right. Tooltips are less than 1% of of all words on the page.
Please give an option to hide 2024 content, thank you.
Edit: I've cancelled my subscription until this is resolved.
2024I second JW_III comment. A slider to turn off all 2024 content would clean up the UI for all of us that are not ready to move forward. Especially for folks that have many 2014 long-running campaigns. I know you guys can do it! Just like you filter all the other stuff.
How do I turn off the new spells? I don't own or want to use the 2024 stuff. I don't really care if the old versions of spells say (Legacy), but I want to continue using those spells as I have been for the past 5 years without the new versions clogging my spell lists.
The Lance is still busted and shows 1d10 dmg (2024) with no way to interface the 1d12 dmg (2014) into the weapon mechanics. Homebrewing, which supposedly is not required, doesn’t work because of the hardcode lance data.
I support a 2024 toggle. You can look up my spending history.
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Will there be a way to make the "pact Weapon" for Warlocks use the charisma modifier instead of Str/Dex in the tool automatically?
Yo, can anyone who has the 2024 PHB tell me what does the tooltips of spells refer to? The 2014 version or the 2024 version? Cuz I don't wanna buy the new PHB if it affects my spell tooltips.