If a Sorcerer were to learn Eldritch Blast by taking the Spell Sniper feat, would casting it benefit from the spell attack modifier of a Bloodwell Vial? The description of Bloodwell Vials refers to "your sorcerer spells". I'm thinking 'no', as there is nothing that states positively that EB learned this way would count as sorcerer spell, unlike say, Cleric spells learned via Divine Soul Origin, but I am curious as to what others think. D&D Beyond character sheets thinks 'yes', as demonstrated by this test case: https://ddb.ac/characters/58509834/D33anX
The character sheets don't really matter when it comes to the rules. But you are right when you're thinking "no". Spells picked up from different classes when multiclasses counts as coming from the "origin" class. It's the same thing as a multiclassed Cleric/Ranger that can only change out their cleric spells on a long rest, not the Ranger spells.
If a Sorcerer were to learn Eldritch Blast by taking the Spell Sniper feat, would casting it benefit from the spell attack modifier of a Bloodwell Vial? The description of Bloodwell Vials refers to "your sorcerer spells". I'm thinking 'no', as there is nothing that states positively that EB learned this way would count as sorcerer spell, unlike say, Cleric spells learned via Divine Soul Origin, but I am curious as to what others think. D&D Beyond character sheets thinks 'yes', as demonstrated by this test case: https://ddb.ac/characters/58509834/D33anX
No. The definition of a sorcerer spell is a spell that is on the sorcerer list for you, and the Spell Sniper feat does not modify that list for you.
There are people who don't get this, but "your sorcerer spells" are specific to you. Each spell that you can cast is associated with an ability score either directly or through being associated with a class in some way. Those without a class association don't count as a class spells for you. Spell sniper is clear: your spellcasting modifier for the cantrip is set by the class, but the spell does not count as a spell of that class for you.
All-Purpose Tool, Amulet of the Devout, Arcane Grimoire, Bloodwell Vial, Rhythm-Maker’s Drum, Moon Sickle - These items currently grant their bonus to all spells, rather than just ones for the specified class. We will work on the required modifier to resolve this.
If a Sorcerer were to learn Eldritch Blast by taking the Spell Sniper feat, would casting it benefit from the spell attack modifier of a Bloodwell Vial? The description of Bloodwell Vials refers to "your sorcerer spells". I'm thinking 'no', as there is nothing that states positively that EB learned this way would count as sorcerer spell, unlike say, Cleric spells learned via Divine Soul Origin, but I am curious as to what others think. D&D Beyond character sheets thinks 'yes', as demonstrated by this test case: https://ddb.ac/characters/58509834/D33anX
No. The definition of a sorcerer spell is a spell that is on the sorcerer list for you, and the Spell Sniper feat does not modify that list for you.
It actually does.
Spell Sniper
You have learned techniques to enhance your attacks with certain kinds of spells, gaining the following benefits:
When you cast a spell that requires you to make an attack roll, the spell’s range is doubled.
Your ranged spell attacks ignore half cover and three-quarters cover.
You learn one cantrip that requires an attack roll. Choose the cantrip from the bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, warlock, or wizard spell list. Your spellcasting ability for this cantrip depends on the spell list you chose from: Charisma for bard, sorcerer, or warlock; Wisdom for cleric or druid; or Intelligence for wizard.
There is a distinct difference between “The Sorcerer Spell List,” and “your Sorcerer spells.” Any time something refers to “the Sorcerer Spell List” it is specifically referring to that very specific list of very specific spells. Anytime something refers to “your sorcerer spells,” it is specifically referring to whichever spells your specific character knows that count as sorcerer spells specifically for them.
A perfect example is the Divine Magic feature that Divine Soul Sorcerers get:
Divine Magic
Your link to the divine allows you to learn spells from the cleric class. When your Spellcasting feature lets you learn or replace a sorcerer cantrip or a sorcerer spell of 1st level or higher, you can choose the new spell from the cleric spell list*1 or the sorcerer spell list *2. You must otherwise obey all the restrictions for selecting the spell, and it becomes a sorcerer spell for you*3.
In addition, choose an affinity for the source of your divine power: good, evil, law, chaos, or neutrality. You learn an additional spell based on that affinity, as shown below. It is a sorcerer spell for you*3, but it doesn’t count against your number of sorcerer spells known. If you later replace this spell, you must replace it with a spell from the cleric spell list*1.
If a Sorcerer were to learn Eldritch Blast by taking the Spell Sniper feat, would casting it benefit from the spell attack modifier of a Bloodwell Vial? The description of Bloodwell Vials refers to "your sorcerer spells". I'm thinking 'no', as there is nothing that states positively that EB learned this way would count as sorcerer spell, unlike say, Cleric spells learned via Divine Soul Origin, but I am curious as to what others think. D&D Beyond character sheets thinks 'yes', as demonstrated by this test case: https://ddb.ac/characters/58509834/D33anX
No. The definition of a sorcerer spell is a spell that is on the sorcerer list for you, and the Spell Sniper feat does not modify that list for you.
It actually does.
Spell Sniper
You have learned techniques to enhance your attacks with certain kinds of spells, gaining the following benefits:
When you cast a spell that requires you to make an attack roll, the spell’s range is doubled.
Your ranged spell attacks ignore half cover and three-quarters cover.
You learn one cantrip that requires an attack roll. Choose the cantrip from the bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, warlock, or wizard spell list. Your spellcasting ability for this cantrip depends on the spell list you chose from: Charisma for bard, sorcerer, or warlock; Wisdom for cleric or druid; or Intelligence for wizard.
It actually does not. The text you colored does not state it modifies any spell lists.
IamSposta is correct - anything a feature of yours explicitly declares is a sorcerer spell is a sorcerer spell for you in addition to any spells on the sorcerer spell list for you. But Spell Sniper doesn't do that, either.
If a Sorcerer were to learn Eldritch Blast by taking the Spell Sniper feat, would casting it benefit from the spell attack modifier of a Bloodwell Vial? The description of Bloodwell Vials refers to "your sorcerer spells". I'm thinking 'no', as there is nothing that states positively that EB learned this way would count as sorcerer spell, unlike say, Cleric spells learned via Divine Soul Origin, but I am curious as to what others think. D&D Beyond character sheets thinks 'yes', as demonstrated by this test case: https://ddb.ac/characters/58509834/D33anX
No. The definition of a sorcerer spell is a spell that is on the sorcerer list for you, and the Spell Sniper feat does not modify that list for you.
It actually does.
Spell Sniper
You have learned techniques to enhance your attacks with certain kinds of spells, gaining the following benefits:
When you cast a spell that requires you to make an attack roll, the spell’s range is doubled.
Your ranged spell attacks ignore half cover and three-quarters cover.
You learn one cantrip that requires an attack roll. Choose the cantrip from the bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, warlock, or wizard spell list. Your spellcasting ability for this cantrip depends on the spell list you chose from: Charisma for bard, sorcerer, or warlock; Wisdom for cleric or druid; or Intelligence for wizard.
It actually does not. The text you colored does not state it modifies any spell lists.
IamSposta is correct - anything a feature of yours explicitly declares is a sorcerer spell is a sorcerer spell for you in addition to any spells on the sorcerer spell list for you. But Spell Sniper doesn't do that, either.
Edit: Neveemind I misunderstood what he was saying. I thought he said you can’t pick up EB with Spell Sniper. That’s correct, it dies not count as a Sorcerer spell.
So, 3 years later and Blodweil Vial still adds to Eldritch Blast hit chance and my warlock spell save DC for my sorcerer 6 \ warlock 2 character. Guess it's legit now
So, 3 years later and Blodweil Vial still adds to Eldritch Blast hit chance and my warlock spell save DC for my sorcerer 6 \ warlock 2 character. Guess it's legit now
Nah. It affects Shadow Touched, too. But that's not because that's how the rules work, it's because Beyond is poorly coded for such cases. Beyond character sheets aren't a part of the rules, don't treat them as such.
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If a Sorcerer were to learn Eldritch Blast by taking the Spell Sniper feat, would casting it benefit from the spell attack modifier of a Bloodwell Vial? The description of Bloodwell Vials refers to "your sorcerer spells". I'm thinking 'no', as there is nothing that states positively that EB learned this way would count as sorcerer spell, unlike say, Cleric spells learned via Divine Soul Origin, but I am curious as to what others think. D&D Beyond character sheets thinks 'yes', as demonstrated by this test case: https://ddb.ac/characters/58509834/D33anX
The character sheets don't really matter when it comes to the rules. But you are right when you're thinking "no". Spells picked up from different classes when multiclasses counts as coming from the "origin" class. It's the same thing as a multiclassed Cleric/Ranger that can only change out their cleric spells on a long rest, not the Ranger spells.
No. The definition of a sorcerer spell is a spell that is on the sorcerer list for you, and the Spell Sniper feat does not modify that list for you.
There are people who don't get this, but "your sorcerer spells" are specific to you. Each spell that you can cast is associated with an ability score either directly or through being associated with a class in some way. Those without a class association don't count as a class spells for you. Spell sniper is clear: your spellcasting modifier for the cantrip is set by the class, but the spell does not count as a spell of that class for you.
As per the very first post specifically for issues related to Tasha’s Cauldron: (https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/bugs-support/87774-tashas-cauldron-of-everything-issues-and-support?comment=1)
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It actually does.
Spell Sniper
You have learned techniques to enhance your attacks with certain kinds of spells, gaining the following benefits:
There is a distinct difference between “The Sorcerer Spell List,” and “your Sorcerer spells.” Any time something refers to “the Sorcerer Spell List” it is specifically referring to that very specific list of very specific spells. Anytime something refers to “your sorcerer spells,” it is specifically referring to whichever spells your specific character knows that count as sorcerer spells specifically for them.
A perfect example is the Divine Magic feature that Divine Soul Sorcerers get:
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It actually does not. The text you colored does not state it modifies any spell lists.
IamSposta is correct - anything a feature of yours explicitly declares is a sorcerer spell is a sorcerer spell for you in addition to any spells on the sorcerer spell list for you. But Spell Sniper doesn't do that, either.
Edit: Neveemind I misunderstood what he was saying. I thought he said you can’t pick up EB with Spell Sniper. That’s correct, it dies not count as a Sorcerer spell.
So, 3 years later and Blodweil Vial still adds to Eldritch Blast hit chance and my warlock spell save DC for my sorcerer 6 \ warlock 2 character. Guess it's legit now
Nah. It affects Shadow Touched, too. But that's not because that's how the rules work, it's because Beyond is poorly coded for such cases. Beyond character sheets aren't a part of the rules, don't treat them as such.