If I am invisible from our caster blowing his Concentration on Greater Invis. NOT hiding (which seems an oxymoron), how does a mob know what square I'm in? Mobs without blindsense or tremorsense or relying on scent to locate players.
Thick of battle: swords swinging, Barbarian is raging, spellcasting is going on, people are dying, chaos of the battlefield...right?
Me: I fire some arrows at a mob, then move afterwards.
DM: The boss casts a lightning bolt at you.
Me: So....he knows which square I'm in?
DM: I could hear your character's armor creak as you moved around. My NPC knows what square you're in.
Me: So he automatically knows what square I'm in?!
DM: Yes, unless you're hiding.
Me: So you're saying if I'm in a 20' by 20' room and just standing there, invisible....a mob comes into the room and knows what square I'm in?
DM: Yes, unless you're hiding.
Me: Ok, so people can't see things that are invis....but they automatically know something is invis AND the location of it?
DM: You should just hide.
Me: I'm invisible, standing in a room but people without extra-ordinary senses can tell I'm there AND know my approximate location?!
It's not fuzzy on it at all, actually - being invisible means targets have disadvantage on attack rolls against you, and you have advantage on attack rolls against them, and you can take the Hide action regardless of terrain or lighting. Full stop, end of things that being invisible does.
If you don't spend an action to Hide, then you aren't just "invisible, standing in a room" - you are invisible, standing in a room right where your foot prints suggest you would be, breathing loud enough to be heard, and stinking enough to be smelled even by creatures without particularly keen sense of smell because you are an adventurer and that means getting dirty, sweaty, and smelly in all kinds of ways, and diverting whatever flow of air there is in the room both with your own breathing and by being a physical body occupying a space.
I prefer to think of Invisibility as being more like the light deflection field that the predator has in the movie - it makes it really easy to hide in almost any condition and it's hard to spot, but if it's just standing around in the open, you can see the weird hazy effect.
Ok, the game seems a bit fuzzy on this bit.
If I am invisible from our caster blowing his Concentration on Greater Invis. NOT hiding (which seems an oxymoron), how does a mob know what square I'm in? Mobs without blindsense or tremorsense or relying on scent to locate players.
Thick of battle: swords swinging, Barbarian is raging, spellcasting is going on, people are dying, chaos of the battlefield...right?
Me: I fire some arrows at a mob, then move afterwards.
DM: The boss casts a lightning bolt at you.
Me: So....he knows which square I'm in?
DM: I could hear your character's armor creak as you moved around. My NPC knows what square you're in.
Me: So he automatically knows what square I'm in?!
DM: Yes, unless you're hiding.
Me: So you're saying if I'm in a 20' by 20' room and just standing there, invisible....a mob comes into the room and knows what square I'm in?
DM: Yes, unless you're hiding.
Me: Ok, so people can't see things that are invis....but they automatically know something is invis AND the location of it?
DM: You should just hide.
Me: I'm invisible, standing in a room but people without extra-ordinary senses can tell I'm there AND know my approximate location?!
DM: Yes....
It's not fuzzy on it at all, actually - being invisible means targets have disadvantage on attack rolls against you, and you have advantage on attack rolls against them, and you can take the Hide action regardless of terrain or lighting. Full stop, end of things that being invisible does.
If you don't spend an action to Hide, then you aren't just "invisible, standing in a room" - you are invisible, standing in a room right where your foot prints suggest you would be, breathing loud enough to be heard, and stinking enough to be smelled even by creatures without particularly keen sense of smell because you are an adventurer and that means getting dirty, sweaty, and smelly in all kinds of ways, and diverting whatever flow of air there is in the room both with your own breathing and by being a physical body occupying a space.
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D&D Beyond FoundersI prefer to think of Invisibility as being more like the light deflection field that the predator has in the movie - it makes it really easy to hide in almost any condition and it's hard to spot, but if it's just standing around in the open, you can see the weird hazy effect.
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