so each skill and tool is linked to a ability score, problem is I can't find a solid answer what tool is linked to what ability score! and some appear to be linked to more than one ability score! here are some examples: Alchemist’s supplies: wisdom or intelligence
Brewer’s supplies: wisdom, contusion or intelligence
Calligrapher's supplies: Dexterity, charisma or intelligence
Carpenter’s tools: Dexterity or wisdom
Cartographer’s tools: wisdom or intelligence
Cobbler’s tools: dexterity (can't think of another score for this one)
Cook’s utensils: wisdom or intelligence
Glassblower’s tools: Dexterity or constitution
Jeweler’s tools: dexterity, charisma or intelligence
Leatherworker’s tools: dexterity or wisdom
Mason’s tools: strength or wisdom
Painter’s supplies: charisma
Potter’s tools: charisma
Smith’s tools: dexterity, intelligence or strength
Tinker’s tools: intelligence
Weaver’s tools: wisdom or dexterity
Woodcarver’s tools: same as Carpenter’s tools, its pretty much the same tools and skill set, I don't know why there are two different tools for the same thing
Gaming sets: charisma, intelligence or dexterity
Instruments: Charisma
thieves tools: dexterity or wisdom (if your looking at this and going WHY WISDOM its to listen to the lock or device for clicks and other sounds)
disguise kit: charisma or intelligence
forgery kit: charisma, dexterity or intelligence
herbalism kit: wisdom or intelligence
navigator's tools: intelligence or wisdom
poisoner's kit: intelligence or wisdom
anyways in the games were I do DM I let my players use there choice of those ability scores to roll for those tools. what do the rest of you think?
There is no specific ability score associated with tools.
Tools
A tool helps you to do something you couldn't otherwise do, such as craft or repair an item, forge a document, or pick a lock. Your race, class, background, or feats give you proficiency with certain tools. Proficiency with a tool allows you to add your proficiency bonus to any ability check you make using that tool. Tool use is not tied to a single ability, since proficiency with a tool represents broader knowledge of its use. For example, the DM might ask you to make a Dexterity check to carve a fine detail with your woodcarver's tools, or a Strength check to make something out of particularly hard wood.
The same is more or less true for skills as well - the DM can mix and match abilities and skills when it makes sense - but skills have an intuitive ability score to default to while tool proficiency represent a broad skill set since they're more like learning a trade.
well for skills themselves there pretty glued to there chosen ability score MINUS intimidation witch can be argued that you should be able to use your main stat witch you use for you attacks (wizards put on a fancy fire work show, a barbarian flexing or a dex based fighter showing off there moves)
well for skills themselves there pretty glued to there chosen ability score MINUS intimidation witch can be argued that you should be able to use your main stat witch you use for you attacks (wizards put on a fancy fire work show, a barbarian flexing or a dex based fighter showing off there moves)
Skills can, and should, have some leeway to allow for some unorthodox uses if they apply to the situation and how they're handled.
I can be pretty persuasive with my charismatic nature, or I can use my superior intellect to give you facts to persuade you, maybe I can simply use my experience in life (wisdom) to give you tales which can be quite persuasive too.
Just because my nimble character is trying to beat someone in a foot race doesn't necessarily mean I'm using STR (Athletics). If it's just a 100 meter dash I could argue that a DEX (Athletics) would be viable since the person who is quickest off the line will probably win. Where as if it were a marathon, I'll concede that STR (Athletics) could be appropriate, however you're also talking about a forced bit of effort so maybe you could say CON (Athletics) for maintaining your stamina?
so each skill and tool is linked to a ability score, problem is I can't find a solid answer what tool is linked to what ability score! and some appear to be linked to more than one ability score! here are some examples:
Alchemist’s supplies: wisdom or intelligence
Brewer’s supplies: wisdom, contusion or intelligence
Calligrapher's supplies: Dexterity, charisma or intelligence
Carpenter’s tools: Dexterity or wisdom
Cartographer’s tools: wisdom or intelligence
Cobbler’s tools: dexterity (can't think of another score for this one)
Cook’s utensils: wisdom or intelligence
Glassblower’s tools: Dexterity or constitution
Jeweler’s tools: dexterity, charisma or intelligence
Leatherworker’s tools: dexterity or wisdom
Mason’s tools: strength or wisdom
Painter’s supplies: charisma
Potter’s tools: charisma
Smith’s tools: dexterity, intelligence or strength
Tinker’s tools: intelligence
Weaver’s tools: wisdom or dexterity
Woodcarver’s tools: same as Carpenter’s tools, its pretty much the same tools and skill set, I don't know why there are two different tools for the same thing
Gaming sets: charisma, intelligence or dexterity
Instruments: Charisma
thieves tools: dexterity or wisdom (if your looking at this and going WHY WISDOM its to listen to the lock or device for clicks and other sounds)
disguise kit: charisma or intelligence
forgery kit: charisma, dexterity or intelligence
herbalism kit: wisdom or intelligence
navigator's tools: intelligence or wisdom
poisoner's kit: intelligence or wisdom
anyways in the games were I do DM I let my players use there choice of those ability scores to roll for those tools. what do the rest of you think?
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There is no specific ability score associated with tools.
The same is more or less true for skills as well - the DM can mix and match abilities and skills when it makes sense - but skills have an intuitive ability score to default to while tool proficiency represent a broad skill set since they're more like learning a trade.
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well for skills themselves there pretty glued to there chosen ability score MINUS intimidation witch can be argued that you should be able to use your main stat witch you use for you attacks (wizards put on a fancy fire work show, a barbarian flexing or a dex based fighter showing off there moves)
Skills can, and should, have some leeway to allow for some unorthodox uses if they apply to the situation and how they're handled.
I can be pretty persuasive with my charismatic nature, or I can use my superior intellect to give you facts to persuade you, maybe I can simply use my experience in life (wisdom) to give you tales which can be quite persuasive too.
Just because my nimble character is trying to beat someone in a foot race doesn't necessarily mean I'm using STR (Athletics). If it's just a 100 meter dash I could argue that a DEX (Athletics) would be viable since the person who is quickest off the line will probably win. Where as if it were a marathon, I'll concede that STR (Athletics) could be appropriate, however you're also talking about a forced bit of effort so maybe you could say CON (Athletics) for maintaining your stamina?
Xanathar's Guide to Everything also has an optional rule that uses INT (Sleight of Hand) checks for tying and untying knots.
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