hey! So my Goblin rogue just died along with 2 other characters of our Party. Luckily we already had our secondary chars prepared so my dwarfen forge cleric was ready to Jump right into battle. But now we also have a undead rogue in the Party that behaves kinda evil (like throwing shit on people trying to heal him). I even used turn undead on him because he kept f*cking around. But im not really sure on how to handle this roleplay wise, since i found no Information on how moradin thinks about the undead. I dont think my dwarf would hesitate to kill him But he proved himself useful and i dont want to attack any pcs. Any information about lore on this matter is apreciated. Sorry for Bad grammar. Greetings from Germany
Most clerics despise undead whether or not their deity does due to it being a slight against the gods. Unless you are a domain that worships a god of the dead, you'd probably at least dislike undead. I don't know if your group is ok with PvP, so it would be best to ask that first. You could also talk to the DM and ask him how he thinks it would be best to handle that kind of situation. One way would be to ask that his healing spells don't work on undead or a creature whose alignment is evil (could see if bringing back 3rd edition healing hurts undead is an option). You could have it that your god sees what is happening and forbids you from helping him, or he wants you to attack and kill all undead you come across (would best clear with DM first), or just have your character refuse to help him because of his actions towards others (unless he decides to cooperate with every and not be an ass, don't heal, help, or buff him in any way). I hope this was helpful.
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This was very helpful thanks! My healing spells didnt work on him anyways, as they specifically dont work on constructs and undeads. I patched him up with some bandages But he wont get those anymore. Dm said pvp is fine :D
Goodberry should still work with undead. Same with healing potions and the healer feat. Long and short rests appear to work as normal. It's not as easy as healing the living, but there are still quite a few options for healing the undead.
I've always found that using a well crafted and sharpened short sword with deliberate thrusting strokes a few times cures characters of hurling feces. I can't think of an instance offhand when I wouldn't try it again. I might be convinced to use wide slashing strokes from left to right just above chest high instead.
Okay, so I'll pull some information from a 3e book I own called "Faiths and Pantheons" which goes over many, many, many gods (even lists stats for some of the gods and stats for avatars) and in it is listed the Dwarven Pantheon.
A list of the dwarven pantheon from this book.
Berronar
Clangeddin
Dumathoin
Abbathor
Duerra
Dugmaren Brightmantle
Gorm
Moradin
Marthammor
Haela Brightaxe
Laduguer
Sharindlar
Thard
Vergadain
Of this, I would think the question might only need information on 3.
Moradin (leader of the dwarven pantheon and I guess your character's deity)
Sharindlar ("Lady of Life and Mercy" apparently the dwarven Life area of the pantheon, but she doesn't go over undead.
Dumathoin (Probably the one you need to hear about as he opposes undead)
I'll go over just Dumathoin unless you ask for more info on any of the deities.
Dumathoin - "Keeper of Secrets Under the Mountain" "The Silent Keeper"
Neutrally aligned
One of his portfolios is protection of the dead so they are not disturbed.
His main focus seems to be on ensuring that ores, minerals, and stone is nice. He prepared for the coming of dwarves by lacing their future mountain homes with ores and gems to make them nice. But he then was furious when dwarves started carving into the mountains and mining because they were making his works messy. He calmed down once the dwarves started carving nice looking mine shafts and fashioning well crafted items from the ores and gems.
Going back to the principal question is the last bit of his written dogma, "Keep the places of our dead inviolate and well tended; the noble ancestors of our race will neither be robbed nor moved through the actions of thieves and defilers. Abide not undead creatures, especially those that take the form of dwarves, thus mocking the creations of Moradin."
Let me know if you want some more information. There are paragraphs on probably over 150 gods that have several paragraphs each and sometimes stats.
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hey! So my Goblin rogue just died along with 2 other characters of our Party. Luckily we already had our secondary chars prepared so my dwarfen forge cleric was ready to Jump right into battle. But now we also have a undead rogue in the Party that behaves kinda evil (like throwing shit on people trying to heal him). I even used turn undead on him because he kept f*cking around. But im not really sure on how to handle this roleplay wise, since i found no Information on how moradin thinks about the undead. I dont think my dwarf would hesitate to kill him But he proved himself useful and i dont want to attack any pcs. Any information about lore on this matter is apreciated. Sorry for Bad grammar. Greetings from Germany
Most clerics despise undead whether or not their deity does due to it being a slight against the gods. Unless you are a domain that worships a god of the dead, you'd probably at least dislike undead. I don't know if your group is ok with PvP, so it would be best to ask that first. You could also talk to the DM and ask him how he thinks it would be best to handle that kind of situation. One way would be to ask that his healing spells don't work on undead or a creature whose alignment is evil (could see if bringing back 3rd edition healing hurts undead is an option). You could have it that your god sees what is happening and forbids you from helping him, or he wants you to attack and kill all undead you come across (would best clear with DM first), or just have your character refuse to help him because of his actions towards others (unless he decides to cooperate with every and not be an ass, don't heal, help, or buff him in any way). I hope this was helpful.
Remember this is a game and it's suppose to be fun for everybody. Let's all have fun and kill monsters.
This was very helpful thanks! My healing spells didnt work on him anyways, as they specifically dont work on constructs and undeads. I patched him up with some bandages But he wont get those anymore. Dm said pvp is fine :D
I could have sworn that most healing spells don't work on undead or constructs, in any case...?
Goodberry should still work with undead. Same with healing potions and the healer feat. Long and short rests appear to work as normal. It's not as easy as healing the living, but there are still quite a few options for healing the undead.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
I've always found that using a well crafted and sharpened short sword with deliberate thrusting strokes a few times cures characters of hurling feces. I can't think of an instance offhand when I wouldn't try it again. I might be convinced to use wide slashing strokes from left to right just above chest high instead.
Okay, so I'll pull some information from a 3e book I own called "Faiths and Pantheons" which goes over many, many, many gods (even lists stats for some of the gods and stats for avatars) and in it is listed the Dwarven Pantheon.
A list of the dwarven pantheon from this book.
Of this, I would think the question might only need information on 3.
I'll go over just Dumathoin unless you ask for more info on any of the deities.
Dumathoin - "Keeper of Secrets Under the Mountain" "The Silent Keeper"
Let me know if you want some more information. There are paragraphs on probably over 150 gods that have several paragraphs each and sometimes stats.
Good luck and may you roll 20's when you need them and 1's when you need a laugh. - myself