That potion of gaseous form thing is brilliant. That's an expensive get-out-of-jail card, but man. What a way to flip the bird finger at a Purple Worm.
Can you just imagine it slowly whooshing around with airy rage?
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That potion of gaseous form thing is brilliant. That's an expensive get-out-of-jail card, but man. What a way to flip the bird finger at a Purple Worm.
Yeah, it's costly, but very effective. Especially because it makes it so they can't attack until the spell ends, which may be a hard thing for a Purple Worm to figure out (up to the DM, though).
@HailRobonia, though it seems like it would be useful to drink it yourself, it's actually more worthwhile to give to the monster. Being Gaseous doesn't impose any effects that RAW would allow you to escape from the stomach of a monster, but I think most DMs would allow you to do so. While you're Gaseous, you can't attack or cast spells, and your speed is reduced to 10 feet flying, so it's better to force the monster to take those debuffs than it is for you to take them.
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Back when potions of gaseous form didn't transform your equipment as well we used it as a method of robbery.... dose someone with a potion, they turn into a cloud and all their stuff falls to the ground ripe for looting.
Polymorph the sharpest party member into a rot grub, let it burrow into your enemy, and stop concentrating.
That is... both incredibly disgusting and incredibly awesome.
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Careful with Polymorph tricks. A DM who's less forgiving may well rule that the party member trying to chestburster the target takes as much or more damage as the target they're bursting, since the target is crushing them as hard as they're trying to burst it.
Careful with Polymorph tricks. A DM who's less forgiving may well rule that the party member trying to chestburster the target takes as much or more damage as the target they're bursting, since the target is crushing them as hard as they're trying to burst it.
I used it with a lizardfolk who had a lot of hit points. Also, if you turn on a sun blade and someone is where the blade would appear, do they get impaled?
I merely point out that as neat as the trick is, one should employ tricks that rely on DM ruling with caution aforethought.
As for Sun Blades? Seems like it should, though with my DM Hat on I'd probably rule it as an attack with advantage, or a Dex save for the critter to get out of the way. No automatic damage, but I'm not gonna say no to making full and proper use of a lightsaber's capabilities, either.
I merely point out that as neat as the trick is, one should employ tricks that rely on DM ruling with caution aforethought.
As for Sun Blades? Seems like it should, though with my DM Hat on I'd probably rule it as an attack with advantage, or a Dex save for the critter to get out of the way. No automatic damage, but I'm not gonna say no to making full and proper use of a lightsaber's capabilities, either.
Use repelling blast to repeatedly push an opponent back into the range of an area of effect spell.
And use grasp of hadar to bring them through again.
In one campaign I play in, The Druid and I (Warlock) JUST in-game came up with the code name "Rake-em" for combination my repelling blast, and his thorn whip over top of spike growth lol
As the spell description does not say you have to see the creature to target an item its wearing.
You still need to touch one object, which you cannot discern, which I would not allow, and in any case there's a save "If you target an object held or worn by a hostile creature, that creature must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw to avoid the spell."
And after that, although you can probably pinpoint the creature, you cannot target it, it still has its invisibility benefits and it can cover the object so that the light does not shine anymore.
You can do you but RAW its pretty clear you can target it just like you know its at to attack it (albeit at DIS).
You can always target an invisible creature as long as the ability/spell/attack does not state you need to see it to do so. Spells/Effects will clearly state when visibility is required and in this case no visibility is specified.
Otherwise you could never even attack an invisible creature without guessing its location. Only if the creature hides do you have to guess.
Also depending on the creature/object could be hard to hide....get some armor or a shield and they would not be able to conceal that. Its an excellent strategy for low level anti-invisibility.
As the spell description does not say you have to see the creature to target an item its wearing.
You still need to touch one object, which you cannot discern, which I would not allow, and in any case there's a save "If you target an object held or worn by a hostile creature, that creature must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw to avoid the spell."
And after that, although you can probably pinpoint the creature, you cannot target it, it still has its invisibility benefits and it can cover the object so that the light does not shine anymore.
The worst part about this gimmick is, according to RAW, I don't think there's even a bonus to their Dexterity save. Which is just ridiculous. The target is heavily obscured. The attacker is functionally blinded when interacting with them.
It's a dumb tactic and I wouldn't allow it, either.
So if you're invisible and carrying a lantern, does it still produce light even after being turned invisible? I would think not, but I'm not 100% certain. I feel like if the ruling was that light continues to be produced by invisible objects or effects that could be a major problem for any race or magic equipment or something that produces light in any way. I know it's not incredibly common, but let's say you've got an Aasimar rogue who pops out some glowing wings, then has someone cast greater invisibility on them... do they just not get the benefits of the invisibility since their eyes and wings are glowing? I legitimately don't know the answer and both possibilities seem logical to me.
Can you just imagine it slowly whooshing around with airy rage?
Canto alla vita
alla sua bellezza
ad ogni sua ferita
ogni sua carezza!
I sing to life and to its tragic beauty
To pain and to strife, but all that dances through me
The rise and the fall, I've lived through it all!
Yeah, it's costly, but very effective. Especially because it makes it so they can't attack until the spell ends, which may be a hard thing for a Purple Worm to figure out (up to the DM, though).
@HailRobonia, though it seems like it would be useful to drink it yourself, it's actually more worthwhile to give to the monster. Being Gaseous doesn't impose any effects that RAW would allow you to escape from the stomach of a monster, but I think most DMs would allow you to do so. While you're Gaseous, you can't attack or cast spells, and your speed is reduced to 10 feet flying, so it's better to force the monster to take those debuffs than it is for you to take them.
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Back when potions of gaseous form didn't transform your equipment as well we used it as a method of robbery.... dose someone with a potion, they turn into a cloud and all their stuff falls to the ground ripe for looting.
That's gotta be a long time ago. I've got some 2nd edition books, and it wasn't doable back then.
Darkness + devil's sight will give you a decent tactical advantage.
Have at least 1 PC in the party that doesn't need to memorize spells/rely on a spell book.
Always have a means of escape (e.g. gaseous form, fly, levitate, dimension door, misty step.)
Action economy is one of the keys to a successful battle. Summoning spells will help in that regard.
Polymorph the sharpest party member into a rot grub, let it burrow into your enemy, and stop concentrating.
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That is... both incredibly disgusting and incredibly awesome.
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Vyth did that to a fomorian once.
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
It was AD&D, so the rules were all super wonky. And cutthroat.
Careful with Polymorph tricks. A DM who's less forgiving may well rule that the party member trying to chestburster the target takes as much or more damage as the target they're bursting, since the target is crushing them as hard as they're trying to burst it.
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I used it with a lizardfolk who had a lot of hit points. Also, if you turn on a sun blade and someone is where the blade would appear, do they get impaled?
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
Use repelling blast to repeatedly push an opponent back into the range of an area of effect spell.
And use grasp of hadar to bring them through again.
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
I merely point out that as neat as the trick is, one should employ tricks that rely on DM ruling with caution aforethought.
As for Sun Blades? Seems like it should, though with my DM Hat on I'd probably rule it as an attack with advantage, or a Dex save for the critter to get out of the way. No automatic damage, but I'm not gonna say no to making full and proper use of a lightsaber's capabilities, either.
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The lizardfolk did both on separate occasions.
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Good ol' 10 ft pole for a trap heavy area.
Caltrops/Ball Bearing combo in a doorway.
For an invisible creature you can technically target them with a light spell https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/light
As the spell description does not say you have to see the creature to target an item its wearing.
In one campaign I play in, The Druid and I (Warlock) JUST in-game came up with the code name "Rake-em" for combination my repelling blast, and his thorn whip over top of spike growth lol
You can do you but RAW its pretty clear you can target it just like you know its at to attack it (albeit at DIS).
You can always target an invisible creature as long as the ability/spell/attack does not state you need to see it to do so. Spells/Effects will clearly state when visibility is required and in this case no visibility is specified.
Otherwise you could never even attack an invisible creature without guessing its location. Only if the creature hides do you have to guess.
Jeremy Crawford went over it in great detail here: http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/james-haeck-dd-writing
Also depending on the creature/object could be hard to hide....get some armor or a shield and they would not be able to conceal that. Its an excellent strategy for low level anti-invisibility.
The worst part about this gimmick is, according to RAW, I don't think there's even a bonus to their Dexterity save. Which is just ridiculous. The target is heavily obscured. The attacker is functionally blinded when interacting with them.
It's a dumb tactic and I wouldn't allow it, either.
So if you're invisible and carrying a lantern, does it still produce light even after being turned invisible? I would think not, but I'm not 100% certain. I feel like if the ruling was that light continues to be produced by invisible objects or effects that could be a major problem for any race or magic equipment or something that produces light in any way. I know it's not incredibly common, but let's say you've got an Aasimar rogue who pops out some glowing wings, then has someone cast greater invisibility on them... do they just not get the benefits of the invisibility since their eyes and wings are glowing? I legitimately don't know the answer and both possibilities seem logical to me.
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