I just think it's kind of mean to give the character a dragon big enough to ride and then have it take its turn immediately after the character's turn.
I just noticed that the Drake Companion has no alignment. It's strange that it has no alignment, but isn't listed as "unaligned," like other creatures without an alignment. It's also strange that it doesn't have an alignment, as even Steel Defenders have an alignment.
I actually liked that, since it means you could have more freedom with your Drake's alignment than if it came with a "Good" or "Evil" label to it. You could put some more flavor in there if you wish without outright contradicting the creature's description.
I have no problem with that, but I just find it strange that they didn't say "your alignment" or "any alignment" where the alignment is normally listed.
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Based on the lack of listing for the Drake's alignment, the fact that it doesn't use Stength or Dex for its attack rolls, and the way it jumps from small to large size without ever being medium, I have to wonder how rushed a job it might have been.
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Yeah. I can (and have) created subclasses with fairly similar mechanics to the Drakewarden, and I have been able to format everything correctly in a fairly short amount of time. I'm not bragging, just saying that this article must have been either rushed or mostly designed by people new to homebrewing animal companion stat blocks.
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I think the important thing that needs to be addressed as far as the theme goes with the Drakewarden is what the Drake Companion actually is.
Is the Drake an actual creature that was hatched from an egg or found in the wilderness and bonded with similar to the beast master’s beast companion?
Or is it meant to be a draconic primal/totem spirits that can take on different features and elements depending on the magic you imbue it with similar to a familiar from the find familiar spell and how each casting of said spell can allow you to change its form to fit different scenarios.
While the flavor seems to give you the option to pick either identification (and one can obviously just choose to pick the same element and flying/swimming form to mimic this) the mechanic seems to lean more towards the second option.
Personally, I like the idea that it is more of a draconic totem spirit and enjoy the idea that using your magic allows it to take a more solid form and gain different features. You help to give it shape and a physical presence and it gives you it’s powers and loyalty.
Yes, it seems in the "origin" options allow for actually "hatching" a drake from an egg, the rest are more predicated on a spiritual bonding. Given the permeability, I'm agreeing that it seems lean toward more a mystical "dragon force" summoning hence the ability to manifest different manifestations of breath, etc. And that could be the go around to explain the lack of medium sized drakes. Also helps explain why so much of the drakes stats are bound to the Ranger's proficiency bonus instead of the drakes own stats.
Otherwise, I have a party with a Druid/Ranger about to meet Ranger level three who wants to do this, so guess we'll see how it goes.
As for the talk of more dragon touched subclasses, I want to see Barbarian Dragon Rage. I don't know what dragon rage will be but I want to playtest dragon rage at my table. It may OP but work in some dragon riding ability in it too.
Not drake rage, _DRAGON_ rage.
I could see the subclasses being evolved into something befitting a Draconomicon. I could also see them making a hash of it and releasing Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings. Let's see what else UA puts out in this vein.
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Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
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Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I flip your table with DRAGONRAGE and make Drakewarden's happen. There's a sidebar on Dragon Dastarding your DM in Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings saying I can do it. (Dragon) power to the players!
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Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I flip your table with DRAGONRAGE and make Drakewarden's happen. There's a sidebar on Dragon Dastarding your DM in Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings saying I can do it. (Dragon) power to the players!
I'd use my dragonlance and turn your drake pet into a nice set of boots.
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The dragon subclass for monk would be fun for a Dragonborn. Being able to use your breath weapon more than once per long rest. Actually manifesting wings. It seems like a natural way for a Dragonborn to become more in tune with their dragon lineage. You could even restrict the choice of breath weapon because of this so they cannot use multiple elements. So, a Black Dragon can only use acid breath. This would be fun to test out.
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Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I don't think its really OP. Certainly when compared to the Beast Master, but its pretty on par with a Battle Smith, besides lacking an additional spell list.
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Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I don't think its really OP. Certainly when compared to the Beast Master, but its pretty on par with a Battle Smith, besides lacking an additional spell list.
Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I don't think its really OP. Certainly when compared to the Beast Master, but its pretty on par with a Battle Smith, besides lacking an additional spell list.
Also, unlike the Battle Smith it lacks much in the way of abilities that aren't tied to its pet.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I don't think its really OP. Certainly when compared to the Beast Master, but its pretty on par with a Battle Smith, besides lacking an additional spell list.
Also, unlike the Battle Smith it lacks much in the way of abilities that aren't tied to its pet.
Yeah, that's a big issue. I shared my full thoughts on its weaknesses in this post:
I think the important thing that needs to be addressed as far as the theme goes with the Drakewarden is what the Drake Companion actually is.
Is the Drake an actual creature that was hatched from an egg or found in the wilderness and bonded with similar to the beast master’s beast companion?
Or is it meant to be a draconic primal/totem spirits that can take on different features and elements depending on the magic you imbue it with similar to a familiar from the find familiar spell and how each casting of said spell can allow you to change its form to fit different scenarios.
While the flavor seems to give you the option to pick either identification (and one can obviously just choose to pick the same element and flying/swimming form to mimic this) the mechanic seems to lean more towards the second option.
Personally, I like the idea that it is more of a draconic totem spirit and enjoy the idea that using your magic allows it to take a more solid form and gain different features. You help to give it shape and a physical presence and it gives you it’s powers and loyalty.
Yes, it seems in the "origin" options allow for actually "hatching" a drake from an egg, the rest are more predicated on a spiritual bonding. Given the permeability, I'm agreeing that it seems lean toward more a mystical "dragon force" summoning hence the ability to manifest different manifestations of breath, etc. And that could be the go around to explain the lack of medium sized drakes. Also helps explain why so much of the drakes stats are bound to the Ranger's proficiency bonus instead of the drakes own stats.
Otherwise, I have a party with a Druid/Ranger about to meet Ranger level three who wants to do this, so guess we'll see how it goes.
As for the talk of more dragon touched subclasses, I want to see Barbarian Dragon Rage. I don't know what dragon rage will be but I want to playtest dragon rage at my table. It may OP but work in some dragon riding ability in it too.
Not drake rage, _DRAGON_ rage.
I could see the subclasses being evolved into something befitting a Draconomicon. I could also see them making a hash of it and releasing Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings. Let's see what else UA puts out in this vein.
A Dragon Barbarian would be dope. I also want to see a Draconic Cleric or Paladin too, though I would like for the Draconic Pantheon to be revived so that the Draconic Domain can make a return.
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Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
I don't think its really OP. Certainly when compared to the Beast Master, but its pretty on par with a Battle Smith, besides lacking an additional spell list.
Also, unlike the Battle Smith it lacks much in the way of abilities that aren't tied to its pet.
Yeah, that's a big issue. I shared my full thoughts on its weaknesses in this post:
Both subclasses look exciting to me. For the Drakewarden, I would prefer the drake get the breath weapon at level 11 instead of the PC. Perhaps that is what was meant, but it was not written well.
It says you or your drake.
Reread this and you are correct. I should have read that more carefully.
I just think it's kind of mean to give the character a dragon big enough to ride and then have it take its turn immediately after the character's turn.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
I have no problem with that, but I just find it strange that they didn't say "your alignment" or "any alignment" where the alignment is normally listed.
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Based on the lack of listing for the Drake's alignment, the fact that it doesn't use Stength or Dex for its attack rolls, and the way it jumps from small to large size without ever being medium, I have to wonder how rushed a job it might have been.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Yeah. I can (and have) created subclasses with fairly similar mechanics to the Drakewarden, and I have been able to format everything correctly in a fairly short amount of time. I'm not bragging, just saying that this article must have been either rushed or mostly designed by people new to homebrewing animal companion stat blocks.
Please check out my homebrew, I would appreciate feedback:
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Yes, it seems in the "origin" options allow for actually "hatching" a drake from an egg, the rest are more predicated on a spiritual bonding. Given the permeability, I'm agreeing that it seems lean toward more a mystical "dragon force" summoning hence the ability to manifest different manifestations of breath, etc. And that could be the go around to explain the lack of medium sized drakes. Also helps explain why so much of the drakes stats are bound to the Ranger's proficiency bonus instead of the drakes own stats.
Otherwise, I have a party with a Druid/Ranger about to meet Ranger level three who wants to do this, so guess we'll see how it goes.
As for the talk of more dragon touched subclasses, I want to see Barbarian Dragon Rage. I don't know what dragon rage will be but I want to playtest dragon rage at my table. It may OP but work in some dragon riding ability in it too.
Not drake rage, _DRAGON_ rage.
I could see the subclasses being evolved into something befitting a Draconomicon. I could also see them making a hash of it and releasing Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings. Let's see what else UA puts out in this vein.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Drakewarden looks pretty OP. I'd not allow this at my table as it stands.
Any time an unfathomably powerful entity sweeps in and offers godlike rewards in return for just a few teensy favors, it’s a scam. Unless it’s me. I’d never lie to you, reader dearest.
Tasha
I flip your table with DRAGONRAGE and make Drakewarden's happen. There's a sidebar on Dragon Dastarding your DM in Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings saying I can do it. (Dragon) power to the players!
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I hate ask but what's Drawmij's Dragonesque Ditherings?
I'd use my dragonlance and turn your drake pet into a nice set of boots.
Any time an unfathomably powerful entity sweeps in and offers godlike rewards in return for just a few teensy favors, it’s a scam. Unless it’s me. I’d never lie to you, reader dearest.
Tasha
The dragon subclass for monk would be fun for a Dragonborn. Being able to use your breath weapon more than once per long rest. Actually manifesting wings. It seems like a natural way for a Dragonborn to become more in tune with their dragon lineage. You could even restrict the choice of breath weapon because of this so they cannot use multiple elements. So, a Black Dragon can only use acid breath. This would be fun to test out.
Do you dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?
I don't think its really OP. Certainly when compared to the Beast Master, but its pretty on par with a Battle Smith, besides lacking an additional spell list.
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It's a ranger so it's already weaker then most.
CFV may change that.
seeing the older ua posts, we probably have to wait about 4 days until I can make my ascendant dragon monk
I've already homebrewed it, and made an extra option called "Total character level" so it has the proper proficiency bonus worth of charges
Also, unlike the Battle Smith it lacks much in the way of abilities that aren't tied to its pet.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Yeah, that's a big issue. I shared my full thoughts on its weaknesses in this post:
https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/unearthed-arcana/85899-new-ua-is-out-dragon-themed-monk-and-ranger?comment=31
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A Dragon Barbarian would be dope. I also want to see a Draconic Cleric or Paladin too, though I would like for the Draconic Pantheon to be revived so that the Draconic Domain can make a return.
"Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
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Yeah, I noticed that- good write up. I'm planning to refer back to it once the survey goes out.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Reread this and you are correct. I should have read that more carefully.
Do you know when the new subclasses will be integrated into the D&D Beyond app?