My understanding is that ALL the 2024 rulebooks are backward compatible, but the Journeys through the Radiant Citadel book in the store specifically has a new label across it that reads "Compatible with 2024 Core Rulebooks".
How is this compatibility different from the rest of the 2014 Core Books based volumes or is it solely a marketing thing?
Everything is compatible, but if I had to guess - given that the more recent adventures like Radiant Citadel and Golden Vault were designed/released during the development of the 2024 books, they're not-so-subtly steering newcomers towards those.
I don't think the label is being applied consistently though. For example, Phandelver & Below came out after Golden Vault but it didn't get the tag. So what do I know.
as the page is sorted by "Bestsellers" and its the last one, I have suspicions that its a marketing thing, but in the physical editions on Amazon JTTRC comes in towards the middle after Fizban's, but ahead of titles like Windemont, Bigby's and Dragonlance, so... not sure how much sense THAT makes, JTtRC was..what.. july 2022, and like 7 texts that came after don't have the banner?
there is probably a really lame or bureaucratic reason and ultimately it doesn't matter, but I'm curious.
After that, there is a category of Core and a category of Expanded.
Core is the PHB, DMG, and MM.
Expanded is Tasha's, Xanathar's, MotM, Volo's, etc.
Core is being replaced, to a degree: if a class is not found in the 2024 PHB, then you can use it going forward, shifting when they get abilities accordingly.
This also applies to the Expanded stuff.
The same applies to Species (races).
On DDB, itself, the easiest way is to look for the Legacy tag.
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I understand what you've said, and the basic compatibility issues/expectations, but if you look at the online store in Rules Books, Adventures, Campaigns, and Everything Else, JTTRC is the ONLY product with this banner label (as far as I've seen as of this date/time). NO OTHER product carries it, regardless of publication date or category. THATS what I was asking about, so you haven't really answered the question asked; what is it about THIS specific book that has earned/given it this UNIQUE label that from what I can see NO OTHER book in the entire posted library possesses? I apologize if the tone of this response is snarkier than I intend, I struggled with a way to be clear and specific obviously.
Hmm. It appears that it was the last product released before they shifted all the products that came after it to 5.5 in development.
This is a guess, of course -- the only people who can answer for real are WotC employees.
But it came out just as they were ramping up to release stuff they had started designing with the 2024 rule books in mind -- and that's everything from July 2023 forward.
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( Speculation:) It could represent the cut-off declaration of what adventures might be getting the “Legacy Tag” treatment?
That way as the completion of the new rules are finalized, work can begin on updating the expansion stuff and adding that in.
Again (/Speculation)?
There's no evidence that they're going to legacy-tag anything that isn't actually superseded. They're unlikely to republish any adventures just for a 2024 update. But they did legacy Lost Mine when they updated it as part of Phandelver and Below. Barring that kind of thing, don't expect any adventures to go legacy.*
I expect the MM and probably the DMG to go legacy, then the Sword Coast book. On the other hand, they haven't done it with the PHB yet.
* They might let old adventures go out of print as sales decline, but that's unlikely to affect DDB.
Sorry to bring this back from the dead... By having this compatibility label applied, does that indicate that there are any content changes to these books such as in digital format or reprints? I have the all of the physical books published by WotC 5e (2014) in my collection so just curious if these new labels indicate that a new reprinted physical edition - with 2024 content - was recently done.
I'm assuming the answer is "no reprint", but just wanted to ask it to help remove all doubt on my end.
I don't own any adventures on beyond only rulebooks, so this is pure speculation.
As the only things that need to be "translated" or "rebalanced" are items, creatures and / or subclasses featured on those adventures. Are we getting these updated items? or it's just the same old things with a legacy tag?
I'm also very curious as to what this 'Compatible with 2024 Core Rulebooks' label means
My understanding is that ALL the 2024 rulebooks are backward compatible, but the Journeys through the Radiant Citadel book in the store specifically has a new label across it that reads "Compatible with 2024 Core Rulebooks".
How is this compatibility different from the rest of the 2014 Core Books based volumes or is it solely a marketing thing?
thanks.
as the page is sorted by "Bestsellers" and its the last one, I have suspicions that its a marketing thing, but in the physical editions on Amazon JTTRC comes in towards the middle after Fizban's, but ahead of titles like Windemont, Bigby's and Dragonlance, so... not sure how much sense THAT makes, JTtRC was..what.. july 2022, and like 7 texts that came after don't have the banner?
there is probably a really lame or bureaucratic reason and ultimately it doesn't matter, but I'm curious.
The original statement was "compatible with all adventures".
That's the real key to what is compatible. In a real sense, that translates to everything here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources#Adventures
Not the stuff above it, though.
After that, there is a category of Core and a category of Expanded.
Core is the PHB, DMG, and MM.
Expanded is Tasha's, Xanathar's, MotM, Volo's, etc.
Core is being replaced, to a degree: if a class is not found in the 2024 PHB, then you can use it going forward, shifting when they get abilities accordingly.
This also applies to the Expanded stuff.
The same applies to Species (races).
On DDB, itself, the easiest way is to look for the Legacy tag.
Only a DM since 1980 (3000+ Sessions) / PhD, MS, MA / Mixed, Bi, Trans, Woman / No longer welcome in the US, apparently
Wyrlde: Adventures in the Seven Cities
.-=] Lore Book | Patreon | Wyrlde YT [=-.
An original Setting for 5e, a whole solar system of adventure. Ongoing updates, exclusies, more.
Not Talking About It / Dubbed The Oracle in the Cult of Mythology Nerds
I understand what you've said, and the basic compatibility issues/expectations, but if you look at the online store in Rules Books, Adventures, Campaigns, and Everything Else, JTTRC is the ONLY product with this banner label (as far as I've seen as of this date/time). NO OTHER product carries it, regardless of publication date or category. THATS what I was asking about, so you haven't really answered the question asked; what is it about THIS specific book that has earned/given it this UNIQUE label that from what I can see NO OTHER book in the entire posted library possesses? I apologize if the tone of this response is snarkier than I intend, I struggled with a way to be clear and specific obviously.
No worries about tone.
Hmm. It appears that it was the last product released before they shifted all the products that came after it to 5.5 in development.
This is a guess, of course -- the only people who can answer for real are WotC employees.
But it came out just as they were ramping up to release stuff they had started designing with the 2024 rule books in mind -- and that's everything from July 2023 forward.
Only a DM since 1980 (3000+ Sessions) / PhD, MS, MA / Mixed, Bi, Trans, Woman / No longer welcome in the US, apparently
Wyrlde: Adventures in the Seven Cities
.-=] Lore Book | Patreon | Wyrlde YT [=-.
An original Setting for 5e, a whole solar system of adventure. Ongoing updates, exclusies, more.
Not Talking About It / Dubbed The Oracle in the Cult of Mythology Nerds
There's no evidence that they're going to legacy-tag anything that isn't actually superseded. They're unlikely to republish any adventures just for a 2024 update. But they did legacy Lost Mine when they updated it as part of Phandelver and Below. Barring that kind of thing, don't expect any adventures to go legacy.*
I expect the MM and probably the DMG to go legacy, then the Sword Coast book. On the other hand, they haven't done it with the PHB yet.
* They might let old adventures go out of print as sales decline, but that's unlikely to affect DDB.
Looks like it WAS a bureaucratic issue... other products are now getting the label.
Sorry to bring this back from the dead... By having this compatibility label applied, does that indicate that there are any content changes to these books such as in digital format or reprints? I have the all of the physical books published by WotC 5e (2014) in my collection so just curious if these new labels indicate that a new reprinted physical edition - with 2024 content - was recently done.
I'm assuming the answer is "no reprint", but just wanted to ask it to help remove all doubt on my end.
Cheers!
I don't own any adventures on beyond only rulebooks, so this is pure speculation.
As the only things that need to be "translated" or "rebalanced" are items, creatures and / or subclasses featured on those adventures. Are we getting these updated items? or it's just the same old things with a legacy tag?
I'm also very curious as to what this 'Compatible with 2024 Core Rulebooks' label means