Nick weapons let you make an off-hand attack as part of a regular attack action instead of having to use your bonus action. Since this still leaves you with a bonus action can you make a 2nd off-hand attack using your bonus action as normal or can you only make one off-hand attack per turn?
Ypu can make the extra attack of the Light property only once per turn, as specified in the Nick rules.
Once your BA is free, though, you can use it for any other bonus action you may have that lets you make an attack. The Dual Wielder feat provides a bonus action specifically built for this scenario, since it conveniently shares the same trigger as the Light BA.
the famous combo, and it's fun and does a lot of damage:
Have Dual Wielder Feat-
Main Hand - Short Sword - Vex
Off hand - Dagger - Nick
Class/Subclass with Extra attack
2 levels fighter
Main Hand Attack
Off Hand Attack with is a Crit
Nick Attack with main hand
Extra Attack Main hand with Crit
Action Surge Main Hand with Crit
Easiest way to do this 5 levels fighter.
Fighting Style Dual Wielder, (any subclass, champion has a +1 to critical and this is a crit farming build, although Eldritch Knight and Psi Warrior are awesome options here.) You want your highest stat to be Dex, this is not a tank build, do recommend taking backgrounds with Dex in them (Charlatan, Criminal, Entertainer, Guide, Sailor, Scribe, Soldier, Wayfarer Notable personal favorites Wayfarer & Soldier, lucky and Savage Attacker are great starter feats for this build, but my player who did this took Sailor for the RP, and I love the Magic Initiate Feats at level 1 aka Guide)
Level 4 take Dual Wielder Feat this with Dual Wielder Style make the build awesome. Level 5 last Fighter level needed, although I tend to go to 6 for the feat unlock and then put 2 into dex.
If you're Action Surging, you're making more than one extra attack. You're taking the full Attack action again, which means two more attacks via Extra Attack
(You don't get another Bonus Action, so no second Dual Wielder attack, and Nick/Light is specifically once per turn so you don't repeat that one either)
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Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Nick When you make the extra attack of the Light property, you can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.
Vex If you hit a creature with this weapon and deal damage to the creature, you have Advantage on your next attack roll against that creature before the end of your next turn.
When you make an extra attack as a result of using a weapon that has the Light property, you can add your ability modifier to the damage of that attack if you aren’t already adding it to the damage.
Dual Wielder Player’s Handbook +1 Strength or Dexterity, Enhanced Dual Wielding, Quick Draw General
General Feat (Prerequisite: Level 4+, Strength or Dexterity 13+)
You gain the following benefits.
Ability Score Increase. Increase your Strength or Dexterity score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
Enhanced Dual Wielding. When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a weapon that has the Light property, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn with a different weapon, which must be a Melee weapon that lacks the Two-Handed property. You don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative.
Quick Draw. You can draw or stow two weapons that lack the Two-Handed property when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.
Level 2: Action Surge You can push yourself beyond your normal limits for a moment. On your turn, you can take one additional action, except the Magic action.
Once you use this feature, you can’t do so again until you finish a Short or Long Rest. Starting at level 17, you can use it twice before a rest but only once on a turn.
Level 5: Extra Attack You can attack twice instead of once whenever you take the Attack action on your turn.
How this works Rules as Written:
Main Hand Short sword (Vex), Off Hand Dagger(Nick)
Main Hand Attack Short Sword Vex Property and Off Hand Attack Uses a Dagger with the Nick Property The Second attack uses Dual Wielder and is the Only Bonus Action.
Nick Attack with main hand this is triggered by the Nick Property and is not a Bonus Action, but a part of the Attack Action.
Extra Attack Main hand with Crit, Fighter Feature, not a Bonus Action.
Action Surge Main Hand with Crit Fighter Feature, not a Bonus Action.
Level 2: Action Surge You can push yourself beyond your normal limits for a moment. On your turn, you can take one additional action, except the Magic action.
Level 5: Extra Attack You can attack twice instead of once whenever you take the Attack action on your turn.
This could not be clearer, but if you choose to voluntarily pass on taking another attack when you Action Surge, I can't stop you
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Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Another solid combo for non fighter martials: requires two weapon fighting style and dual wielder feat L1-4: attack action: shortsword (vex granting adv on next attack, scimitar (Nick - moves bonus action attack into attack action freeing bonus action) bonus action: attack with short sword or scimitar L5+ ( extra attack) attack action: short sword, scimitar (as above), short sword (vex) bonus action: scimitar attack
you do pretty much have to use the short sword and scimitar only as even with the dual wielding extra draws/ stows you really don’t have enough to keep switching in and out between the light weapon and the regular weapon.
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Nick weapons let you make an off-hand attack as part of a regular attack action instead of having to use your bonus action. Since this still leaves you with a bonus action can you make a 2nd off-hand attack using your bonus action as normal or can you only make one off-hand attack per turn?
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ModeratorYpu can make the extra attack of the Light property only once per turn, as specified in the Nick rules.
Once your BA is free, though, you can use it for any other bonus action you may have that lets you make an attack. The Dual Wielder feat provides a bonus action specifically built for this scenario, since it conveniently shares the same trigger as the Light BA.
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the famous combo, and it's fun and does a lot of damage:
Easiest way to do this 5 levels fighter.
Fighting Style Dual Wielder, (any subclass, champion has a +1 to critical and this is a crit farming build, although Eldritch Knight and Psi Warrior are awesome options here.) You want your highest stat to be Dex, this is not a tank build, do recommend taking backgrounds with Dex in them (Charlatan, Criminal, Entertainer, Guide, Sailor, Scribe, Soldier, Wayfarer Notable personal favorites Wayfarer & Soldier, lucky and Savage Attacker are great starter feats for this build, but my player who did this took Sailor for the RP, and I love the Magic Initiate Feats at level 1 aka Guide)
Level 4 take Dual Wielder Feat this with Dual Wielder Style make the build awesome. Level 5 last Fighter level needed, although I tend to go to 6 for the feat unlock and then put 2 into dex.
See: https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/146949703<- Build based on this comment.
If you're Action Surging, you're making more than one extra attack. You're taking the full Attack action again, which means two more attacks via Extra Attack
(You don't get another Bonus Action, so no second Dual Wielder attack, and Nick/Light is specifically once per turn so you don't repeat that one either)
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Rules as Written:
Nick
When you make the extra attack of the Light property, you can make it as part of the Attack action instead of as a Bonus Action. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.
Vex
If you hit a creature with this weapon and deal damage to the creature, you have Advantage on your next attack roll against that creature before the end of your next turn.
Edit:
Two-Weapon Fighting
Fighting Style Feat (Prerequisite: Fighting Style Feature)
When you make an extra attack as a result of using a weapon that has the Light property, you can add your ability modifier to the damage of that attack if you aren’t already adding it to the damage.
Dual Wielder
Player’s Handbook
+1 Strength or Dexterity, Enhanced Dual Wielding, Quick Draw
General
General Feat (Prerequisite: Level 4+, Strength or Dexterity 13+)
You gain the following benefits.
Ability Score Increase. Increase your Strength or Dexterity score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
Enhanced Dual Wielding. When you take the Attack action on your turn and attack with a weapon that has the Light property, you can make one extra attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn with a different weapon, which must be a Melee weapon that lacks the Two-Handed property. You don’t add your ability modifier to the extra attack’s damage unless that modifier is negative.
Quick Draw. You can draw or stow two weapons that lack the Two-Handed property when you would normally be able to draw or stow only one.
Level 2: Action Surge
You can push yourself beyond your normal limits for a moment. On your turn, you can take one additional action, except the Magic action.
Once you use this feature, you can’t do so again until you finish a Short or Long Rest. Starting at level 17, you can use it twice before a rest but only once on a turn.
Level 5: Extra Attack
You can attack twice instead of once whenever you take the Attack action on your turn.
How this works Rules as Written:
Main Hand Short sword (Vex), Off Hand Dagger(Nick)
Main Hand Attack Short Sword Vex Property and Off Hand Attack Uses a Dagger with the Nick Property The Second attack uses Dual Wielder and is the Only Bonus Action.
Nick Attack with main hand this is triggered by the Nick Property and is not a Bonus Action, but a part of the Attack Action.
Extra Attack Main hand with Crit, Fighter Feature, not a Bonus Action.
Action Surge Main Hand with Crit Fighter Feature, not a Bonus Action.
This could not be clearer, but if you choose to voluntarily pass on taking another attack when you Action Surge, I can't stop you
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Another solid combo for non fighter martials:
requires two weapon fighting style and dual wielder feat
L1-4:
attack action: shortsword (vex granting adv on next attack, scimitar (Nick - moves bonus action attack into attack action freeing bonus action)
bonus action: attack with short sword or scimitar
L5+ ( extra attack)
attack action: short sword, scimitar (as above), short sword (vex)
bonus action: scimitar attack
you do pretty much have to use the short sword and scimitar only as even with the dual wielding extra draws/ stows you really don’t have enough to keep switching in and out between the light weapon and the regular weapon.
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