With the addition of separating backpacks, quivers, and other inventory items to be used as separate inventories comes an issue. The old weights of some items like the rations and torches are mislabeled in weight. An explorers pack for example starts with a weight of 54/30 lbs. Currently I've gone through and applied custom weights in my players inventories for the rations and torches making the rations 2 lbs and the torches 1 lb. Otherwise it would list each ration as 20 lbs and each torch 10 lbs.
What you are seeing on the sheet is the total weight of the entire stack. I just added an explorer's pack, and each torch is 1 lb (for a total of 10 lb for ten of them). Rations are correct too. You can ignore the weight of a bedroll and rope (see backpack description).
They haven’t changed any of the weights, everything still matches the weight la listed in the PHB.
Not just ropes and bedrolls can be attached to the outside of a backpacks, waterskins are also officially mentioned as official examples. As a DM I would allow anything reasonable to be attached to the outsides of backpacks like bundled torches or lanterns, mess kits,, tinderboxes, map/scroll cases,, pouches of other equipment, iron pots and cooks utensils (lookin’ at you there Samwise 😉), tents, raincatchers… I think I’d have to draw the line at a kayak though (sorry Striker (sorry Midnight)). I’m more of an indoors kid myself, but everyone I have ever known who was in scouts or the military or just went hiking and camping a lot always found as many ways to utilize as many square inches of the outsides of their packs as they could (or at least needed) to free up as many cubic inches on the inside as they needed to.
Yes, I'm not stingy about adding stuff outside the bag, I was mostly concerned with the displayed weight limit of the bag showing it carrying more than it's carry capacity. Looking at that and seeing the ##/30 lbs, one would assume that would be the capacity of said bag, but when you first make a character and use an explorers backpack, it shows 54/30 even if you assume there's items hanging outside of the bag. Which to me would seem confusing to someone looking to do inventory management.
I think I’d have to draw the line at a kayak though (sorry Striker (sorry Midnight)).
Look, again, in the way you interpret inventory management within a Hasbro product, you're free to flout my precedent, but I strongly encourage you to reconsider and let the system honor, as designed, the greatest action figure of all time (also a Hasbro product):
With the addition of separating backpacks, quivers, and other inventory items to be used as separate inventories comes an issue. The old weights of some items like the rations and torches are mislabeled in weight. An explorers pack for example starts with a weight of 54/30 lbs. Currently I've gone through and applied custom weights in my players inventories for the rations and torches making the rations 2 lbs and the torches 1 lb. Otherwise it would list each ration as 20 lbs and each torch 10 lbs.
What you are seeing on the sheet is the total weight of the entire stack. I just added an explorer's pack, and each torch is 1 lb (for a total of 10 lb for ten of them). Rations are correct too. You can ignore the weight of a bedroll and rope (see backpack description).
They haven’t changed any of the weights, everything still matches the weight la listed in the PHB.
Not just ropes and bedrolls can be attached to the outside of a backpacks, waterskins are also officially mentioned as official examples. As a DM I would allow anything reasonable to be attached to the outsides of backpacks like bundled torches or lanterns, mess kits,, tinderboxes, map/scroll cases,, pouches of other equipment, iron pots and cooks utensils (lookin’ at you there Samwise 😉), tents, raincatchers… I think I’d have to draw the line at a kayak though (sorry Striker (sorry Midnight)). I’m more of an indoors kid myself, but everyone I have ever known who was in scouts or the military or just went hiking and camping a lot always found as many ways to utilize as many square inches of the outsides of their packs as they could (or at least needed) to free up as many cubic inches on the inside as they needed to.
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Yes, I'm not stingy about adding stuff outside the bag, I was mostly concerned with the displayed weight limit of the bag showing it carrying more than it's carry capacity. Looking at that and seeing the ##/30 lbs, one would assume that would be the capacity of said bag, but when you first make a character and use an explorers backpack, it shows 54/30 even if you assume there's items hanging outside of the bag. Which to me would seem confusing to someone looking to do inventory management.
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D&D Beyond FoundersYup, it's odd, but those are the rules, as they are written.
Granted, we have made an assumption that all of the items in the explorer's pack are inside the backpack.
You can easily move them out though.
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