Whether or not Agonizing Blast works with the weapon cantrips is a matter of great debate. Some say it works, others that it doesn't.
I personally say it doesn't work. The spells don't deal damage directly, rather they enchant your weapon (target is self), and then as part of casting the spell you make a normal weapon attack.
I have seen some DM's rule that it works since the cantrips deal damage as part of the spell, and others that it only works after level 5 where the cantrips add extra damage to your attack. Really, there isn't anything concrete from WotC on whether or not it is supposed to work, so you'll have to make the call as DM.
While the above reasonably summarizes the state of RAW, I argue that it should be allowed to work.
The intent of AB is that it adds damage to your attack cantrips. Pedanticism about whether it's the right kind of attack is undermining the intent. GFB is an attack cantrip, therefore it should be eligible. (Not to mention you're crossing editions, so GFB hasn't been updated to bring it unto the current templating. But I apply the same argument to True Strike.)
While the above reasonably summarizes the state of RAW, I argue that it should be allowed to work.
The intent of AB is that it adds damage to your attack cantrips. Pedanticism about whether it's the right kind of attack is undermining the intent. GFB is an attack cantrip, therefore it should be eligible. (Not to mention you're crossing editions, so GFB hasn't been updated to bring it unto the current templating. But I apply the same argument to True Strike.)
What about with true strike? Isn't that an attack cantrip? How about Hex spell as well? If you have access being a sorcerer, and have sorcerous burst, then can you have that same bonus?
While the above reasonably summarizes the state of RAW, I argue that it should be allowed to work.
The intent of AB is that it adds damage to your attack cantrips. Pedanticism about whether it's the right kind of attack is undermining the intent. GFB is an attack cantrip, therefore it should be eligible. (Not to mention you're crossing editions, so GFB hasn't been updated to bring it unto the current templating. But I apply the same argument to True Strike.)
What about with true strike? Isn't that an attack cantrip?
Yes, it is.
How about Hex spell as well?
Neither an attack spell nor a cantrip.
If you have access being a sorcerer, and have sorcerous burst, then can you have that same bonus?
If you can manage to gain it as a Warlock cantrip, instead of as a Sorcerer cantrip, then you can. (You can gain it as a warlock cantrip, but not by multiclassing.)
I'm not sure what you are asking, as none of these have any relation to the GFB question.
I'm not sure what you are asking, as none of these have any relation to the GFB question.
As the GFB is not in the 2024 PHB, it is difficult to understand were people are going. This is a result of being compatible with older material when one only has access to the 2024 books.
While the above reasonably summarizes the state of RAW, I argue that it should be allowed to work.
The intent of AB is that it adds damage to your attack cantrips. Pedanticism about whether it's the right kind of attack is undermining the intent. GFB is an attack cantrip, therefore it should be eligible. (Not to mention you're crossing editions, so GFB hasn't been updated to bring it unto the current templating. But I apply the same argument to True Strike.)
I don't believe True Strike (or Booming/Green Flame Blade) are attack cantrips.
Something can either be a weapon attack or a spell attack. It cannot be both. If it's a spell attack, it must natively use your spellcasting stat. If it's a weapon attack, it uses your Str/Dex unless some other ability changes this.
Weapon attacks can benefit from features like Sneak Attack, Weapon Mastery, etc. Spell attacks can benefit from features like Agonizing Blast, Radiant Soul, etc. You cannot have an attack that benefits from both the first list and the second.
I personally say it doesn't work. The spells don't deal damage directly, rather they enchant your weapon (target is self), and then as part of casting the spell you make a normal weapon attack.
The range of Green Flame-Blade is 'Self(5 foot)', which explicitly means self is not the target, just the origin. This is the format used for spells where the caster is the origin but not target, such as Cone of Cold 'Self(60 foot)' or Conjure Barrage 'Self(60 foot)'. Range changed to just 'Self' for True Strike but presumably this was due to the issue where Range Weapons like polearms could not benefit from their range property for Green-Flame Blade or Booming Blade... overall the reason for these changes haven't been clarified, nor should Agonising Blast apply or not.
While the above reasonably summarizes the state of RAW, I argue that it should be allowed to work.
The intent of AB is that it adds damage to your attack cantrips. Pedanticism about whether it's the right kind of attack is undermining the intent. GFB is an attack cantrip, therefore it should be eligible. (Not to mention you're crossing editions, so GFB hasn't been updated to bring it unto the current templating. But I apply the same argument to True Strike.)
I don't believe True Strike (or Booming/Green Flame Blade) are attack cantrips.
It is a cantrip. You use it to attack. It is therefore an attack cantrip.
The whole point of extending agonizing blast to other cantrips is so people can play warlocks with other themes without feeling that they're mechanically forced into Eldritch Blast. It's still disadvantaged, because AB scales with number of attacks and most attack cantrips increase damage, not attack count, but it's less disadvantaged.
There is no good reason not to include warlocks whose attack cantrip of choice is Stab. (And the rules arguments saying it's that way are not, in fact, anything close to clear-cut, anyway.)
Weapon attacks can benefit from features like Sneak Attack, Weapon Mastery, etc. Spell attacks can benefit from features like Agonizing Blast, Radiant Soul, etc. You cannot have an attack that benefits from both the first list and the second.
Why not? What principle of the rules says so?
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My player choose Green flame Blade for cantrips of agonizing blast. He's add spellcasting ability modifier + charisma modifier in the damage?
Whether or not Agonizing Blast works with the weapon cantrips is a matter of great debate. Some say it works, others that it doesn't.
I personally say it doesn't work. The spells don't deal damage directly, rather they enchant your weapon (target is self), and then as part of casting the spell you make a normal weapon attack.
I have seen some DM's rule that it works since the cantrips deal damage as part of the spell, and others that it only works after level 5 where the cantrips add extra damage to your attack. Really, there isn't anything concrete from WotC on whether or not it is supposed to work, so you'll have to make the call as DM.
While the above reasonably summarizes the state of RAW, I argue that it should be allowed to work.
The intent of AB is that it adds damage to your attack cantrips. Pedanticism about whether it's the right kind of attack is undermining the intent. GFB is an attack cantrip, therefore it should be eligible. (Not to mention you're crossing editions, so GFB hasn't been updated to bring it unto the current templating. But I apply the same argument to True Strike.)
What about with true strike? Isn't that an attack cantrip? How about Hex spell as well? If you have access being a sorcerer, and have sorcerous burst, then can you have that same bonus?
Yes, it is.
Neither an attack spell nor a cantrip.
If you can manage to gain it as a Warlock cantrip, instead of as a Sorcerer cantrip, then you can. (You can gain it as a warlock cantrip, but not by multiclassing.)
I'm not sure what you are asking, as none of these have any relation to the GFB question.
I'm not sure what you are asking, as none of these have any relation to the GFB question.
As the GFB is not in the 2024 PHB, it is difficult to understand were people are going. This is a result of being compatible with older material when one only has access to the 2024 books.
I don't believe True Strike (or Booming/Green Flame Blade) are attack cantrips.
Something can either be a weapon attack or a spell attack. It cannot be both. If it's a spell attack, it must natively use your spellcasting stat. If it's a weapon attack, it uses your Str/Dex unless some other ability changes this.
Weapon attacks can benefit from features like Sneak Attack, Weapon Mastery, etc. Spell attacks can benefit from features like Agonizing Blast, Radiant Soul, etc. You cannot have an attack that benefits from both the first list and the second.
The range of Green Flame-Blade is 'Self(5 foot)', which explicitly means self is not the target, just the origin. This is the format used for spells where the caster is the origin but not target, such as Cone of Cold 'Self(60 foot)' or Conjure Barrage 'Self(60 foot)'. Range changed to just 'Self' for True Strike but presumably this was due to the issue where Range Weapons like polearms could not benefit from their range property for Green-Flame Blade or Booming Blade... overall the reason for these changes haven't been clarified, nor should Agonising Blast apply or not.
It is a cantrip. You use it to attack. It is therefore an attack cantrip.
The whole point of extending agonizing blast to other cantrips is so people can play warlocks with other themes without feeling that they're mechanically forced into Eldritch Blast. It's still disadvantaged, because AB scales with number of attacks and most attack cantrips increase damage, not attack count, but it's less disadvantaged.
There is no good reason not to include warlocks whose attack cantrip of choice is Stab. (And the rules arguments saying it's that way are not, in fact, anything close to clear-cut, anyway.)
Why not? What principle of the rules says so?