WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Something like reissuing all the supplements over the next 5 years all updated and shiny new.
They might have an all new pricing structure to go with them all. Something like a player price of 5 bucks for just the stuff a player needs(feats and classes) and 10 bucks for the whole book(magic items and other fluff) if your a Dm or just want it all. Individual purchasing a la carte style will be gone to be replaced with a simpler unified version. player class and dm class.
Or it could be a switch to a subscription system. Pay 5 bucks a month and get all access to all the player options as they come out along with the membership here at DDB. Or 10 bucks a month and your on the DM scale getting access to all the new books out to that point for use at DDB. I do not know but that could be one of their ideas.
I feel like that's too customer-forward of thinking when they're making it abundantly clear with one misstep after another that they've got the shareholders in mind far more than us.
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Or, they might have just axed a la carte purchasing without any warning because that's exactly what they did.
If they had some kind of plan to replace that feature then it would have taken them two minutes to say so, to explain why, or when they'll be back, or what they'll be replaced with.
The fact that they haven't speaks volumes. The fact that they acknowledge they were going away, but didn't bother to say anything else means they knew this was happening, and are fine with it.
Because we wouldn't be complaining nearly as much if this were merely a technical limitation (e.g- "a la carte purchases have not yet been re-implemented, but will be coming soon™"), it would still suck but it would at least buy them some time to deliver upon that promise before we get properly angry. Instead they've just done it, and said nothing since, despite the fact that they have to be aware of the dissatisfaction by now.
They have not earned your trust, or done the bare minimum to give you a reason to think they have any kind of plan other than doing exactly what they did.
Former D&D Beyond Customer of six years: With the axing of piecemeal purchasing, lack of meaningful development, and toxic moderation the site isn't worth paying for anymore. I remain a free user only until my groups are done migrating from DDB, and if necessary D&D, after which I'm done. There are better systems owned by better companies out there.
I have unsubscribed from all topics and will not reply to messages. My homebrew is now 100% unsupported.
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Something like reissuing all the supplements over the next 5 years all updated and shiny new.
They might have an all new pricing structure to go with them all. Something like a player price of 5 bucks for just the stuff a player needs(feats and classes) and 10 bucks for the whole book(magic items and other fluff) if your a Dm or just want it all. Individual purchasing a la carte style will be gone to be replaced with a simpler unified version. player class and dm class.
Or it could be a switch to a subscription system. Pay 5 bucks a month and get all access to all the player options as they come out along with the membership here at DDB. Or 10 bucks a month and your on the DM scale getting access to all the new books out to that point for use at DDB. I do not know but that could be one of their ideas.
Anything is possible, all they need to do is communicate.
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Or, they might have just axed a la carte purchasing without any warning because that's exactly what they did.
If they had some kind of plan to replace that feature then it would have taken them two minutes to say so, to explain why, or when they'll be back, or what they'll be replaced with.
The fact that they haven't speaks volumes. The fact that they acknowledge they were going away, but didn't bother to say anything else means they knew this was happening, and are fine with it.
Because we wouldn't be complaining nearly as much if this were merely a technical limitation (e.g- "a la carte purchases have not yet been re-implemented, but will be coming soon™"), it would still suck but it would at least buy them some time to deliver upon that promise before we get properly angry. Instead they've just done it, and said nothing since, despite the fact that they have to be aware of the dissatisfaction by now.
They have not earned your trust, or done the bare minimum to give you a reason to think they have any kind of plan other than doing exactly what they did.
Exactly! Notice how quick they were to get to work on putting PayPal back in it's proper place because it was a missing feature they actually cared about, meanwhile for Ala Carte all they did was say "It's no longer possible" without explaining why and then go completely radio silent on the matter.
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Something like reissuing all the supplements over the next 5 years all updated and shiny new.
They might have an all new pricing structure to go with them all. Something like a player price of 5 bucks for just the stuff a player needs(feats and classes) and 10 bucks for the whole book(magic items and other fluff) if your a Dm or just want it all. Individual purchasing a la carte style will be gone to be replaced with a simpler unified version. player class and dm class.
Or it could be a switch to a subscription system. Pay 5 bucks a month and get all access to all the player options as they come out along with the membership here at DDB. Or 10 bucks a month and your on the DM scale getting access to all the new books out to that point for use at DDB. I do not know but that could be one of their ideas.
Anything is possible, all they need to do is communicate.
communicating isn't all, anymore. previously they could have communicated the change ahead of time and it could have been inevitable and that would have been fine. inevitable? darn. but now? now to regain trust they need to put it back. this snapped a thread of goodwill i honestly didn't know i had and wouldn't have guessed was so delicate. they can try again next year (with the proper pre-communicating ahead of it), but for right now they can put it back or else i can't trust what's gone next. legacy books? 3rd party books? classes that don't poll well? they can put it back and they can try again with their words.
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unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: providefeedback!
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Something like reissuing all the supplements over the next 5 years all updated and shiny new.
They might have an all new pricing structure to go with them all. Something like a player price of 5 bucks for just the stuff a player needs(feats and classes) and 10 bucks for the whole book(magic items and other fluff) if your a Dm or just want it all. Individual purchasing a la carte style will be gone to be replaced with a simpler unified version. player class and dm class.
Or it could be a switch to a subscription system. Pay 5 bucks a month and get all access to all the player options as they come out along with the membership here at DDB. Or 10 bucks a month and your on the DM scale getting access to all the new books out to that point for use at DDB. I do not know but that could be one of their ideas.
Anything is possible, all they need to do is communicate.
communicating isn't all, anymore. previously they could have communicated the change ahead of time and it could have been inevitable and that would have been fine. inevitable? darn. but now? now to regain trust they need to put it back. this snapped a thread of goodwill i honestly didn't know i had and wouldn't have guessed was so delicate. they can try again next year (with the proper pre-communicating ahead of it), but for right now they can put it back or else i can't trust what's gone next. legacy books? 3rd party books? classes that don't poll well? they can put it back and they can try again with their words.
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
Anything is possible, all they need to do is communicate.
communicating isn't all, anymore.
...for right now they can put it back or else i can't trust what's gone next. legacy books? 3rd party books? classes that don't poll well? they can put it back and they can try again with their words.
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
"use premium dungeon gems for a chance to get the new warlock patron! double loot box drops this month only!"
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unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: providefeedback!
A really hope that the a la carte option returns, and in the near future too. Whilst I do my best to purchase as many books (physical, to support FLGS) as I can, I like to make use of the app by re-purchasing the bits and bobs I use for my own characters. Having to rebuy the books I already have to make use of the app isn't appealing, and forces me to put the app aside, where it was usually used quite prominently by me at the table.
A la carte was also a great way for me to encourage new players to join games, and invest a little money into the hobby before they took the plunge and bought the books outright. Not everyone can afford the books proper for a gaming medium they're unfamiliar with, and not everyone can or would want to lend them their books to allow them to build and manage characters.
I don't know the full picture, and I'm not business savvy (and don't claim to be), but it does feel disheartening. I hope the decision gets rescinded.
This is total horse crap. I am still going to use what resources I have already bought but I will not buy another thing from D&D Beyond until they reverse it. And as soon as the current campaign I am DM'ing wraps up...I'm dropping my membership altogether. I'd rather give my money to a local game store or to another company that isn't being a complete nimrod with their customer base.
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
I doubt this will happen; the whole reason Artificer isn't in OneD&D is because they'll release a new Eberron book at some point with Artificer as the main selling point, and then go right back to treating it like a second class citizen. They're not going to abandon something that's sold well in the past, and that they believe they can just sell to us again and again.
For everyone annoyed at the dropping of a la carte, I should have noted I filed a support ticket complaining about the loss of the feature; while I feel bad for the support staff, they said they will pass comments on to another team, so I say call their bluff. Everyone that uses it should complain they can no longer do it, because it is after all a long standing website feature that is no longer functioning.
Former D&D Beyond Customer of six years: With the axing of piecemeal purchasing, lack of meaningful development, and toxic moderation the site isn't worth paying for anymore. I remain a free user only until my groups are done migrating from DDB, and if necessary D&D, after which I'm done. There are better systems owned by better companies out there.
I have unsubscribed from all topics and will not reply to messages. My homebrew is now 100% unsupported.
I won't buy anything else either. And i canceld my subscription. I'll come back (if D&D beyond still exists as it seems they want to kill it) when they don't have a poorly designed marketplace, something unique to D&D beyond like the a la carte purchases and bundles, and they stop with the nonsense.
"use premium dungeon gems for a chance to get the new warlock patron! double loot box drops this month only!"
I feel bad for the people in this thread who seem to have convinced themselves that this is a plausible scenario
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Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
I doubt this will happen; the whole reason Artificer isn't in OneD&D is because they'll release a new Eberron book at some point with Artificer as the main selling point, and then go right back to treating it like a second class citizen. They're not going to abandon something that's sold well in the past, and that they believe they can just sell to us again and again.
For everyone annoyed at the dropping of a la carte, I should have noted I filed a support ticket complaining about the loss of the feature; while I feel bad for the support staff, they said they will pass comments on to another team, so I say call their bluff. Everyone that uses it should complain they can no longer do it, because it is after all a long standing website feature that is no longer functioning.
+1 for filling out a support ticket.
Independently I doubt it will accomplish much, but in suitable numbers who knows.
Remember for those who do, to keep your concerns objective - what is it you are upset about, how has it impacted you now, how will it impact your purchasing going forwards. People are quick to dismiss emotive responses
I believe this is the link to the place where if we stuff the complain box, maybe someone will check it.
You all can do what you want, but if you actually read the page https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/7747202565652-Feedback-and-Questions before firing off into the first window that allows you to type text, you'd see that "feedback" (which commentary about the Marketplace change would be) is encouraged to be put back on this board, in the feed back section https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/d-d-beyond-feedback. I think that's the most constructive way to make your sentiment known (and hit that like button for posts you support) rather than spam/distract the customer service representatives who do have the ability to help customers with problems in DDB as it currently works, but do not have the power to restore features to the marketplace. The feedback section is the one place on this board DDB staff outside of community management definitely do read and/or receive reports.
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
I doubt this will happen; the whole reason Artificer isn't in OneD&D is because they'll release a new Eberron book at some point with Artificer as the main selling point, and then go right back to treating it like a second class citizen. They're not going to abandon something that's sold well in the past, and that they believe they can just sell to us again and again.
For everyone annoyed at the dropping of a la carte, I should have noted I filed a support ticket complaining about the loss of the feature; while I feel bad for the support staff, they said they will pass comments on to another team, so I say call their bluff. Everyone that uses it should complain they can no longer do it, because it is after all a long standing website feature that is no longer functioning.
It wasn't meant to be a direct 1:1 argument but more an exaggerated example of "If they take this away, what else is on the chopping block?" and using something they never really seemed to want to have around this much in the first place seemed like a good example.
This has ruined any thoughts I may have had of buying any digital content. I really hope they bring the piecemeal option back.
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I recently tried to purchase a feat only to discover the ability to buy things piecemeal was gone. I bought a bunch of piecemeal things over the last couple of months for my characters & I would have gladly spent more if the option hadn't been removed. I am not willing nor able to pay 30 bucks all at once just to access one feat. And going forwards, I won't be buying anything else from d&d beyond unless they restore the option to buy piecemeal. If they ruin their homebrew feature, I'll just stop using this site. This company needs to get it through their thick skulls that D&D is impossible for a company to truly own; its a literal game of make believe people homebrew for & own paperback official books of, almost all of its players know this & they will act accordingly should they decide this site isn't convenient enough anymore.
TLDR: You can either have a small amount of money from me, or you can have no money at all from me, & its looking like D&D Beyond has picked the latter.
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Something like reissuing all the supplements over the next 5 years all updated and shiny new.
They might have an all new pricing structure to go with them all. Something like a player price of 5 bucks for just the stuff a player needs(feats and classes) and 10 bucks for the whole book(magic items and other fluff) if your a Dm or just want it all.
Individual purchasing a la carte style will be gone to be replaced with a simpler unified version. player class and dm class.
Or it could be a switch to a subscription system.
Pay 5 bucks a month and get all access to all the player options as they come out along with the membership here at DDB. Or 10 bucks a month and your on the DM scale getting access to all the new books out to that point for use at DDB.
I do not know but that could be one of their ideas.
I feel like that's too customer-forward of thinking when they're making it abundantly clear with one misstep after another that they've got the shareholders in mind far more than us.
Or, they might have just axed a la carte purchasing without any warning because that's exactly what they did.
If they had some kind of plan to replace that feature then it would have taken them two minutes to say so, to explain why, or when they'll be back, or what they'll be replaced with.
The fact that they haven't speaks volumes. The fact that they acknowledge they were going away, but didn't bother to say anything else means they knew this was happening, and are fine with it.
Because we wouldn't be complaining nearly as much if this were merely a technical limitation (e.g- "a la carte purchases have not yet been re-implemented, but will be coming soon™"), it would still suck but it would at least buy them some time to deliver upon that promise before we get properly angry. Instead they've just done it, and said nothing since, despite the fact that they have to be aware of the dissatisfaction by now.
They have not earned your trust, or done the bare minimum to give you a reason to think they have any kind of plan other than doing exactly what they did.
Former D&D Beyond Customer of six years: With the axing of piecemeal purchasing, lack of meaningful development, and toxic moderation the site isn't worth paying for anymore. I remain a free user only until my groups are done migrating from DDB, and if necessary D&D, after which I'm done. There are better systems owned by better companies out there.
I have unsubscribed from all topics and will not reply to messages. My homebrew is now 100% unsupported.
Anything is possible, all they need to do is communicate.
Exactly! Notice how quick they were to get to work on putting PayPal back in it's proper place because it was a missing feature they actually cared about, meanwhile for Ala Carte all they did was say "It's no longer possible" without explaining why and then go completely radio silent on the matter.
communicating isn't all, anymore. previously they could have communicated the change ahead of time and it could have been inevitable and that would have been fine. inevitable? darn. but now? now to regain trust they need to put it back. this snapped a thread of goodwill i honestly didn't know i had and wouldn't have guessed was so delicate. they can try again next year (with the proper pre-communicating ahead of it), but for right now they can put it back or else i can't trust what's gone next. legacy books? 3rd party books? classes that don't poll well? they can put it back and they can try again with their words.
unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: provide feedback!
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
"use premium dungeon gems for a chance to get the new warlock patron! double loot box drops this month only!"
unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: provide feedback!
A really hope that the a la carte option returns, and in the near future too. Whilst I do my best to purchase as many books (physical, to support FLGS) as I can, I like to make use of the app by re-purchasing the bits and bobs I use for my own characters. Having to rebuy the books I already have to make use of the app isn't appealing, and forces me to put the app aside, where it was usually used quite prominently by me at the table.
A la carte was also a great way for me to encourage new players to join games, and invest a little money into the hobby before they took the plunge and bought the books outright. Not everyone can afford the books proper for a gaming medium they're unfamiliar with, and not everyone can or would want to lend them their books to allow them to build and manage characters.
I don't know the full picture, and I'm not business savvy (and don't claim to be), but it does feel disheartening. I hope the decision gets rescinded.
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This is total horse crap. I am still going to use what resources I have already bought but I will not buy another thing from D&D Beyond until they reverse it. And as soon as the current campaign I am DM'ing wraps up...I'm dropping my membership altogether. I'd rather give my money to a local game store or to another company that isn't being a complete nimrod with their customer base.
I doubt this will happen; the whole reason Artificer isn't in OneD&D is because they'll release a new Eberron book at some point with Artificer as the main selling point, and then go right back to treating it like a second class citizen. They're not going to abandon something that's sold well in the past, and that they believe they can just sell to us again and again.
For everyone annoyed at the dropping of a la carte, I should have noted I filed a support ticket complaining about the loss of the feature; while I feel bad for the support staff, they said they will pass comments on to another team, so I say call their bluff. Everyone that uses it should complain they can no longer do it, because it is after all a long standing website feature that is no longer functioning.
Former D&D Beyond Customer of six years: With the axing of piecemeal purchasing, lack of meaningful development, and toxic moderation the site isn't worth paying for anymore. I remain a free user only until my groups are done migrating from DDB, and if necessary D&D, after which I'm done. There are better systems owned by better companies out there.
I have unsubscribed from all topics and will not reply to messages. My homebrew is now 100% unsupported.
I won't buy anything else either. And i canceld my subscription. I'll come back (if D&D beyond still exists as it seems they want to kill it) when they don't have a poorly designed marketplace, something unique to D&D beyond like the a la carte purchases and bundles, and they stop with the nonsense.
I feel bad for the people in this thread who seem to have convinced themselves that this is a plausible scenario
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
+1 for filling out a support ticket.
Independently I doubt it will accomplish much, but in suitable numbers who knows.
Remember for those who do, to keep your concerns objective - what is it you are upset about, how has it impacted you now, how will it impact your purchasing going forwards. People are quick to dismiss emotive responses
https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us
I believe this is the link to the place where if we stuff the complain box, maybe someone will check it.
You all can do what you want, but if you actually read the page https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/7747202565652-Feedback-and-Questions before firing off into the first window that allows you to type text, you'd see that "feedback" (which commentary about the Marketplace change would be) is encouraged to be put back on this board, in the feed back section https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/d-d-beyond-feedback. I think that's the most constructive way to make your sentiment known (and hit that like button for posts you support) rather than spam/distract the customer service representatives who do have the ability to help customers with problems in DDB as it currently works, but do not have the power to restore features to the marketplace. The feedback section is the one place on this board DDB staff outside of community management definitely do read and/or receive reports.
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It wasn't meant to be a direct 1:1 argument but more an exaggerated example of "If they take this away, what else is on the chopping block?" and using something they never really seemed to want to have around this much in the first place seemed like a good example.
This has ruined any thoughts I may have had of buying any digital content. I really hope they bring the piecemeal option back.
Haiiiiii, I’m Druid! (he/they/it/moth/fae/star) I'm a smol insane queer lil' mess with a terrible mental state! I'm also a therian and furry :3 My current obsessions are The Amazing Digital Circus and Hazbin Hotel, so if you ever wanna chat about that, I'm always happy to! GIVE ME YOUR MONSTER.
"Oh no! Looks like I've taken Ragatha... AND DROPPED HER IN THE DEEP FRYER!" -Jax
I recently tried to purchase a feat only to discover the ability to buy things piecemeal was gone. I bought a bunch of piecemeal things over the last couple of months for my characters & I would have gladly spent more if the option hadn't been removed. I am not willing nor able to pay 30 bucks all at once just to access one feat. And going forwards, I won't be buying anything else from d&d beyond unless they restore the option to buy piecemeal. If they ruin their homebrew feature, I'll just stop using this site. This company needs to get it through their thick skulls that D&D is impossible for a company to truly own; its a literal game of make believe people homebrew for & own paperback official books of, almost all of its players know this & they will act accordingly should they decide this site isn't convenient enough anymore.
TLDR: You can either have a small amount of money from me, or you can have no money at all from me, & its looking like D&D Beyond has picked the latter.