Just want to keep this thread rolling into the new year. If we keep spamming their feedback forms, that means someone is being paid to read and respond to them? So if we go hard enough, wouldn’t there be a point where it’s financially more feasible for them to reinstate a la carte options as a cost SAVING measure?… someone do the math!
I'll have to wait and see, but currently outside of the core 3 books they aren't getting any of my money.
What I'm waiting to see is how the FR source books look and cost. Because currently they are publishing player material (subclasses, feats, spells, items) separately from the source material. If they still charge $30 digital, $60 physical for those smaller split books, then I'll continue to not buy from them. Because it'll still be material I'll likely only use maybe 10-15% of. Where ala cart I could pay for what I wanted and used and nothing more.
Remember when micro transactions were the new digital money maker, with companies thriving off large quantities of small transactions? Then all the game companies, and others got greedy and created more ways to milk more from their customers. The profit they had wasn't enough. And sadly all of use let them do it by continuing to support them.
I won't say anything that others haven't said. I'm just adding my voice. Today was the first day I got burned by this. I have plenty of a la carte purchases that add up to a books purchase price. The longer I play, the more a la carte options I buy, the more likely I am to buy a full book on here.
Now, with the requirement to buy a whole book, I just won't try new things here. As that comes up more and more, I'll just move my characters to being built manually (I've ben playing since 1980, so that's not that hard) and then I don't need this tool at all. WotC can decide if my experience matches enough people's experience to guide their set up, but I hate to see companies make more money and then respond by lowering the value of their product.
I wanted to buy some magic items from the 2024 DMG to add to my character sheets, but sadly it isn't possible. This is pretty much a lose/lose situation: WotC won't get the revenue, and I won't get the content.
Might be falling on deaf ears, but I also fully support this as well. All of my players loved this option, now they won't buy any books since this change.
Does anyone know if there is any way to submit feedback directly to D&DBeyond, or if they put out surveys for anything like that? I want to spread the word so I can go back to feeling okay spending my money on the site, since the price of sourcebooks is too high for me to want to buy, but a la carte was easy for me to feel okay paying for.
If they’re going to take away this option, then they need to have some other option in place (other than buying a book twice, once physically and once digitally). Like when you buy the physical copy, you get a one-time use code to buy it digitally for $5-10. This is crazy.
Like when you buy the physical copy, you get a one-time use code to buy it digitally for $5-10.
As the words are spoken, the walls begin to rumble as the doors slowly drift open responding to the pass-phrase. Ahead, the party lays eyes on a chest in the centre of the room, with its wooden top ajar revealing the tome inside they had been questing for....Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
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Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
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Does anyone know if there is any way to submit feedback directly to D&DBeyond, or if they put out surveys for anything like that? I want to spread the word so I can go back to feeling okay spending my money on the site, since the price of sourcebooks is too high for me to want to buy, but a la carte was easy for me to feel okay paying for.
Reposting/paraphrasing from a very similar thread:
The best way you can voice you displeasure is to vote with your wallet. If lots of people responded by not buying the full price products, that would make WizBro reconsider their stance on removing A La Carte.
However, it's been over a year (1st May 2024); we've had the release of 2024 products and it seems people are buying them. This tells WizBro that people are happy to pay full price for the products (well, maybe not 'happy', but they're still paying for them). If everyone collectively stopped buying their content when they first removed A La Carte, that would have spoken volumes. Alternatively, Wizbro need to be absolutely inundated with negative feedback about this on their socials - doing it on D&D Beyond is probably not going to yield anything.
I'm not saying it's impossible to get Wizbro to change their minds - I'm saying it's unlikely as long as their current Marketplace strategy continues to prove to be profitable.
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#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.
As I understand it, it hasn't been profitable. This is why the Perkins and Crawford departure happened. I was unimpressed by the Daggerheart SRD, so I'm not following them, and I must admit I'm a fan of d&d, not Perkins and Crawford, though I like their work. I bought a few items A la Carte and prefer having the option available, all things said.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” John Stuart Mill, 1867
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Attributed to Edmund Burke, 1961 (It is conjectured that he never said it.)
As I understand it, it hasn't been profitable. This is why the Perkins and Crawford departure happened. I was unimpressed by the Daggerheart SRD, so I'm not following them, and I must admit I'm a fan of d&d, not Perkins and Crawford, though I like their work. I bought a few items A la Carte and prefer having the option available, all things said.
I don't believe it they left because it wasn't profitable. They left because they were looking at retiring once D&D had it's 50th Anniversary according to this interview
I did some more digging and looking just at the Core Three 2024 Rule Books, it appears that the 2024 Player's Handbook was extremely profitable, becoming the fastest-selling D&D product in the game's 50-year history according to several articles - geeknativegamingnexusicv2
I wasn't able to find any data on the Monster Manual and the Dungeon Master's Guide, but that doesn't mean they sold poorly.
Generally speaking, the 2024 release seems to have been successful, so it appears from what (little) data we have that people are happy paying full price. Not great news for those like myself that want A La Cart to return, great news for Wizbro who will see pulling the A La Cart option as a wise business move.
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.
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Is there a petition going or something we can do to try and get this feature back?
The literally don't care what we think.
It seems there is a little petition just here : https://www.change.org/p/restore-a-la-carte-purchasing-on-d-d-beyond
Just want to keep this thread rolling into the new year. If we keep spamming their feedback forms, that means someone is being paid to read and respond to them? So if we go hard enough, wouldn’t there be a point where it’s financially more feasible for them to reinstate a la carte options as a cost SAVING measure?… someone do the math!
Only way to get it back is to hit them in the wallets.
Just signed the petition. Got a lot more to go before they take it seriously.
I'll have to wait and see, but currently outside of the core 3 books they aren't getting any of my money.
What I'm waiting to see is how the FR source books look and cost. Because currently they are publishing player material (subclasses, feats, spells, items) separately from the source material. If they still charge $30 digital, $60 physical for those smaller split books, then I'll continue to not buy from them. Because it'll still be material I'll likely only use maybe 10-15% of. Where ala cart I could pay for what I wanted and used and nothing more.
Remember when micro transactions were the new digital money maker, with companies thriving off large quantities of small transactions?
Then all the game companies, and others got greedy and created more ways to milk more from their customers. The profit they had wasn't enough. And sadly all of use let them do it by continuing to support them.
I won't say anything that others haven't said. I'm just adding my voice. Today was the first day I got burned by this. I have plenty of a la carte purchases that add up to a books purchase price. The longer I play, the more a la carte options I buy, the more likely I am to buy a full book on here.
Now, with the requirement to buy a whole book, I just won't try new things here. As that comes up more and more, I'll just move my characters to being built manually (I've ben playing since 1980, so that's not that hard) and then I don't need this tool at all. WotC can decide if my experience matches enough people's experience to guide their set up, but I hate to see companies make more money and then respond by lowering the value of their product.
It's not the first time, it won't be the last.
I wanted to buy some magic items from the 2024 DMG to add to my character sheets, but sadly it isn't possible. This is pretty much a lose/lose situation: WotC won't get the revenue, and I won't get the content.
Might be falling on deaf ears, but I also fully support this as well. All of my players loved this option, now they won't buy any books since this change.
Bring back a la carte purchases.
Does anyone know if there is any way to submit feedback directly to D&DBeyond, or if they put out surveys for anything like that? I want to spread the word so I can go back to feeling okay spending my money on the site, since the price of sourcebooks is too high for me to want to buy, but a la carte was easy for me to feel okay paying for.
If they’re going to take away this option, then they need to have some other option in place (other than buying a book twice, once physically and once digitally). Like when you buy the physical copy, you get a one-time use code to buy it digitally for $5-10. This is crazy.
As the words are spoken, the walls begin to rumble as the doors slowly drift open responding to the pass-phrase. Ahead, the party lays eyes on a chest in the centre of the room, with its wooden top ajar revealing the tome inside they had been questing for.... Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.
Reposting/paraphrasing from a very similar thread:
The best way you can voice you displeasure is to vote with your wallet. If lots of people responded by not buying the full price products, that would make WizBro reconsider their stance on removing A La Carte.
However, it's been over a year (1st May 2024); we've had the release of 2024 products and it seems people are buying them. This tells WizBro that people are happy to pay full price for the products (well, maybe not 'happy', but they're still paying for them). If everyone collectively stopped buying their content when they first removed A La Carte, that would have spoken volumes. Alternatively, Wizbro need to be absolutely inundated with negative feedback about this on their socials - doing it on D&D Beyond is probably not going to yield anything.
I'm not saying it's impossible to get Wizbro to change their minds - I'm saying it's unlikely as long as their current Marketplace strategy continues to prove to be profitable.
#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.
As I understand it, it hasn't been profitable. This is why the Perkins and Crawford departure happened. I was unimpressed by the Daggerheart SRD, so I'm not following them, and I must admit I'm a fan of d&d, not Perkins and Crawford, though I like their work. I bought a few items A la Carte and prefer having the option available, all things said.
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” John Stuart Mill, 1867
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Attributed to Edmund Burke, 1961 (It is conjectured that he never said it.)
I don't believe it they left because it wasn't profitable. They left because they were looking at retiring once D&D had it's 50th Anniversary according to this interview
I did some more digging and looking just at the Core Three 2024 Rule Books, it appears that the 2024 Player's Handbook was extremely profitable, becoming the fastest-selling D&D product in the game's 50-year history according to several articles - geeknative gamingnexus icv2
I wasn't able to find any data on the Monster Manual and the Dungeon Master's Guide, but that doesn't mean they sold poorly.
Generally speaking, the 2024 release seems to have been successful, so it appears from what (little) data we have that people are happy paying full price. Not great news for those like myself that want A La Cart to return, great news for Wizbro who will see pulling the A La Cart option as a wise business move.
#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.