Is there any way to give people under 13 an account? My children have Google Accounts, but they can’t create accounts with them. I would like to get a subscription to DM with them.
I would like to manage and oversee my kids accounts from a parent account rather than having to juggle multiple email accounts. Much like you can with Pokemon Go or Playstation User Accounts.
Or I would like to invite the kids into a game that allows them to use the DnD Beyond tools without requiring an actual account.
Same boat! I thought I was going to be able to create a throwaway account just for this, but the "new account" options require an existing Apple ID or Google account, and the kids-flavored versions of those don't allow account creation.
Can't you just open a regular account? What would you like for the child account to have/not have from the regular account?
If the kids have their own iCloud or Gmail accounts, but are under 13, they cannot create a regular account on their own, due to the age restrictions imposed by either Apple, Google, or D&D Beyond. I have two *just* under 13 - just paid for the year-GM level sub to get them started, only to be foiled by age restrictions.
Can't you just open a regular account? What would you like for the child account to have/not have from the regular account?
If the kids have their own iCloud or Gmail accounts, but are under 13, they cannot create a regular account on their own, due to the age restrictions imposed by either Apple, Google, or D&D Beyond. I have two *just* under 13 - just paid for the year-GM level sub to get them started, only to be foiled by age restrictions.
The age restrictions are universal across every website on the internet that has such in their user agreements. The main reason they are there are for child protection.
Which is where have a Child Account has to follow strict guidelines in both implementation and running. The EU has a whole different set of rules for Child Account's in place than the rest of the world as well. It's a quagmire which has to be asked on whether or not to allow such. While it sounds great to be implementing, its a headache to do so as well.
Now dont get me wrong, I am all for such, its been proven time and time again that roleplaying in any format is brilliant for child development due to the skills it can bring out, many schools now use the likes of DnD, mostly thanks to Stranger Things bringing it back to glory, as part of the drama curriculum.
I think the main issue with such implementation is going to be forum access and where they can post if their parents allow them to do such. And even then such posting from an account is going to need to have a moderator, or parent/guardian notification, to approve before it is posted up, mostly due to its contents since kids do tend to ask the weirdest questions at times and if such aint moderated before being posted up you are going to see a sudden flood of such questions, and people not realizing its a kid asking are going to question whether the person posting it is all there or not. The parent/guardian notification for approval can be easily set up as them getting a notification through the app on their phone, which means adding such to it and could be set up as a requirement the parent/guardian have before the allowance of the child account. Since all parents should be monitoring what their child is doing, that sort of moderation would also cut down on there needing to be a moderator 24/7 for such approval.
Yeah, I know... it's a headache. It's still something I would like, and would be willing to invest in, were it an option. Honestly, I just want my kids to have access to characters and campaigns that I run for them, because let's be honest - having their character sheets on their tablets, and me having the campaign up on my tablet or laptop is a great way to save on table space, and keep my rotten children from cheating in dice rolls and ensure the game moves at a pace that keeps them engaged!
If I could have Child Accounts that kept them completely off the forums, I'd be okay with that. And I agree on the parental permissions thing. My kids' tablets are locked down, and they have to request permission to do most things that involve interaction with the internet and spending money. It's a simple "yes" or "no" tap on my phone when they try to do something outside of those boundaries.
I run 2 games for kids ranging from 7 to 15. The older group has 2 members that are not yet old enough for dndbeyond.
The younger group won't be eligible for dndbeyond for almost 5 years. I'm debating whether renewing my subscription is worth it. Or if I should look for a tool that I can keep all my games in.
still having a child account could possibly exist. Forum access could be restricted. parental controls could be implemented.
It would however take time and resources. because it would have to go through the legal team, design team, programing and such. constantly being checked and rechecked.
still having a child account could possibly exist. Forum access could be restricted. parental controls could be implemented.
It would however take time and resources. because it would have to go through the legal team, design team, programing and such. constantly being checked and rechecked.
Direct Message/Chat access would also have to be locked out. AND child protection laws are different in different countries/jurisdictions. It would be a nightmare, and would take several people working full time on it to make it possible. While I do understand how much of pain it is for parents of under 13 kids, I also understand why DDB hasn’t invested the money and resources it would take to make it possible.
The thing is, coming back to this topic after some time - my understanding nature and patience with this issue no longer exists. While Epic and Microsoft are arguably bigger than DDB (not sure where Fandom stands in these rankings but this isn’t terribly relevant), they have more than sufficient methods of allowing child accounts. So does Nintendo. All of my kids have Switch and Xbox accounts and creating them was fairly easy and straightforward.
Arguments citing various laws and restrictions are not valid, as there are clearly other companies that have found a way to make it work just fine.
I don't think its impossible in fact i think ddbeyond should work on it. I was only pointing out that now that its been requested it will take time and effort.
in the mean time I suggest Parents just start using it along with a minor under direct supervision. OR try one of the VTT services that would allow character building. I use to play at a table with our laptops and logged in to Roll20. we would only use the Vtt for certain things (rolling would be one.)
Those companies are also much larger then Dndbeyond. Im sure if Dndbeyond had thousands of staff and multiple millions of dollars to spend, they would be able to implement a child account system. But DndBeyond is not Nintendo.
So, for now, lets be okay with the staff telling us they cant do it because its a logistics nightmare and also because the game is for people 13+ anyway.
The team only pointed out that the game was designed for 13+. (which is reasonable for them to never have assumed they needed child accounts) they never said it would not be implemented.
Yes most laws have specifics rules for 13 and younger online but Believe it or not but in some areas there is a large gap {between 13 and 17 or 18} that is still considered a child or laws about parental monitoring.
Having a child account is still a potential thing worth looking into. yes it probably would be a logistics nightmare so I don't think it would happen anytime soon but the request is still a valid one.
I third this. It’s ridiculous. This is a game! A game that kids apparently can’t play!
This is not a matter of stopping kids from playing D&D (a game that is actually recommended for ages 13+)
This is a matter of begin legally compliant with the various regulations regarding online safety of minors.
U.S. COPPA and it's EU equivalent compliance requirement is a chore requiring under 13s PII to be protected, which is why most social media companies that arguably thrive on the datamining/monetizing of their user base don't bother with 13 and under accounts. Bold for PSA tone. Checks your T&Cs.
One can say this is a matter of being legally compliant with the various regulations regarding online safety of minors; but it's really a reluctance to build compliance infrastructure, so it becomes a matter of excluding the 13 and under consumer.
[As an aside, I would love an AMA with DnD Beyond's counsel or whatever legal advice they get on policy decisions both customer and partner facing (I don't know if they're big enough to have separate desks for those); and I'm sure I'm not alone. So much DDB murk and nonspeak gets non explained through some gesture to contracts, licenses, and in this case regulations. It would be neat to be able to chat with someone with the acumen and comfort to speak beyond "it's complicated."]
So practically speaking, I host my kids' characters on my account. When they're old enough they can get their own accounts. Their set of friends actually prefers to play on paper anyway (I think too much screen time between schoolwork and everything else, I personally can't complain about that) so a lot of this is moot in my instance but I can appreciate the desire and "need feel" for family accounts. i believe DDB supports multiple device logins for those who want to have the family account experience with full sheet functionality.
Is there any way to give people under 13 an account? My children have Google Accounts, but they can’t create accounts with them. I would like to get a subscription to DM with them.
I second this
I third this. Creating and managing children accounts from a parent account would be great.
Can't you just open a regular account? What would you like for the child account to have/not have from the regular account?
I would like to manage and oversee my kids accounts from a parent account rather than having to juggle multiple email accounts. Much like you can with Pokemon Go or Playstation User Accounts.
Or I would like to invite the kids into a game that allows them to use the DnD Beyond tools without requiring an actual account.
Same boat! I thought I was going to be able to create a throwaway account just for this, but the "new account" options require an existing Apple ID or Google account, and the kids-flavored versions of those don't allow account creation.
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If the kids have their own iCloud or Gmail accounts, but are under 13, they cannot create a regular account on their own, due to the age restrictions imposed by either Apple, Google, or D&D Beyond. I have two *just* under 13 - just paid for the year-GM level sub to get them started, only to be foiled by age restrictions.
The age restrictions are universal across every website on the internet that has such in their user agreements. The main reason they are there are for child protection.
Which is where have a Child Account has to follow strict guidelines in both implementation and running. The EU has a whole different set of rules for Child Account's in place than the rest of the world as well. It's a quagmire which has to be asked on whether or not to allow such. While it sounds great to be implementing, its a headache to do so as well.
Now dont get me wrong, I am all for such, its been proven time and time again that roleplaying in any format is brilliant for child development due to the skills it can bring out, many schools now use the likes of DnD, mostly thanks to Stranger Things bringing it back to glory, as part of the drama curriculum.
I think the main issue with such implementation is going to be forum access and where they can post if their parents allow them to do such. And even then such posting from an account is going to need to have a moderator, or parent/guardian notification, to approve before it is posted up, mostly due to its contents since kids do tend to ask the weirdest questions at times and if such aint moderated before being posted up you are going to see a sudden flood of such questions, and people not realizing its a kid asking are going to question whether the person posting it is all there or not. The parent/guardian notification for approval can be easily set up as them getting a notification through the app on their phone, which means adding such to it and could be set up as a requirement the parent/guardian have before the allowance of the child account. Since all parents should be monitoring what their child is doing, that sort of moderation would also cut down on there needing to be a moderator 24/7 for such approval.
Yeah, I know... it's a headache. It's still something I would like, and would be willing to invest in, were it an option. Honestly, I just want my kids to have access to characters and campaigns that I run for them, because let's be honest - having their character sheets on their tablets, and me having the campaign up on my tablet or laptop is a great way to save on table space,
and keep my rotten children from cheating in dice rollsand ensure the game moves at a pace that keeps them engaged!If I could have Child Accounts that kept them completely off the forums, I'd be okay with that. And I agree on the parental permissions thing. My kids' tablets are locked down, and they have to request permission to do most things that involve interaction with the internet and spending money. It's a simple "yes" or "no" tap on my phone when they try to do something outside of those boundaries.
I'd be thrilled to have kids' accounts working...
I run 2 games for kids ranging from 7 to 15. The older group has 2 members that are not yet old enough for dndbeyond.
The younger group won't be eligible for dndbeyond for almost 5 years. I'm debating whether renewing my subscription is worth it. Or if I should look for a tool that I can keep all my games in.
I third this. It’s ridiculous. This is a game! A game that kids apparently can’t play!
This is not a matter of stopping kids from playing D&D (a game that is actually recommended for ages 13+)
This is a matter of begin legally compliant with the various regulations regarding online safety of minors.
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still having a child account could possibly exist. Forum access could be restricted. parental controls could be implemented.
It would however take time and resources. because it would have to go through the legal team, design team, programing and such. constantly being checked and rechecked.
Direct Message/Chat access would also have to be locked out. AND child protection laws are different in different countries/jurisdictions. It would be a nightmare, and would take several people working full time on it to make it possible. While I do understand how much of pain it is for parents of under 13 kids, I also understand why DDB hasn’t invested the money and resources it would take to make it possible.
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The thing is, coming back to this topic after some time - my understanding nature and patience with this issue no longer exists. While Epic and Microsoft are arguably bigger than DDB (not sure where Fandom stands in these rankings but this isn’t terribly relevant), they have more than sufficient methods of allowing child accounts. So does Nintendo. All of my kids have Switch and Xbox accounts and creating them was fairly easy and straightforward.
Arguments citing various laws and restrictions are not valid, as there are clearly other companies that have found a way to make it work just fine.
I don't think its impossible in fact i think ddbeyond should work on it. I was only pointing out that now that its been requested it will take time and effort.
in the mean time I suggest Parents just start using it along with a minor under direct supervision. OR try one of the VTT services that would allow character building. I use to play at a table with our laptops and logged in to Roll20. we would only use the Vtt for certain things (rolling would be one.)
Those companies are also much larger then Dndbeyond. Im sure if Dndbeyond had thousands of staff and multiple millions of dollars to spend, they would be able to implement a child account system. But DndBeyond is not Nintendo.
So, for now, lets be okay with the staff telling us they cant do it because its a logistics nightmare and also because the game is for people 13+ anyway.
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The team only pointed out that the game was designed for 13+. (which is reasonable for them to never have assumed they needed child accounts) they never said it would not be implemented.
Yes most laws have specifics rules for 13 and younger online but Believe it or not but in some areas there is a large gap {between 13 and 17 or 18} that is still considered a child or laws about parental monitoring.
Having a child account is still a potential thing worth looking into. yes it probably would be a logistics nightmare so I don't think it would happen anytime soon but the request is still a valid one.
U.S. COPPA and it's EU equivalent compliance requirement is a chore requiring under 13s PII to be protected, which is why most social media companies that arguably thrive on the datamining/monetizing of their user base don't bother with 13 and under accounts. Bold for PSA tone. Checks your T&Cs.
One can say this is a matter of being legally compliant with the various regulations regarding online safety of minors; but it's really a reluctance to build compliance infrastructure, so it becomes a matter of excluding the 13 and under consumer.
[As an aside, I would love an AMA with DnD Beyond's counsel or whatever legal advice they get on policy decisions both customer and partner facing (I don't know if they're big enough to have separate desks for those); and I'm sure I'm not alone. So much DDB murk and nonspeak gets non explained through some gesture to contracts, licenses, and in this case regulations. It would be neat to be able to chat with someone with the acumen and comfort to speak beyond "it's complicated."]
So practically speaking, I host my kids' characters on my account. When they're old enough they can get their own accounts. Their set of friends actually prefers to play on paper anyway (I think too much screen time between schoolwork and everything else, I personally can't complain about that) so a lot of this is moot in my instance but I can appreciate the desire and "need feel" for family accounts. i believe DDB supports multiple device logins for those who want to have the family account experience with full sheet functionality.
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