This is how WotC presents the spells (Basic Rules version vs. Player's Handbook version), so I don't think D&D Beyond has any choice but to also present the spells this way.
This is how WotC presents the spells (Basic Rules version vs. Player's Handbook version), so I don't think D&D Beyond has any choice but to also present the spells this way.
That is correct. The named versions of the spells are all trademarked and could only appear in a payed content publication like the PHB. The non-trademarked generic versions were created for inclusion in the free Basic Rules or free SRD. For all intents and purposes, they are technically different spells.
The ability to possibly overright SRD content with PHB content, where appropriate would be an amazing [if likely complex, from a programming standpoint] feature.
It's not a problem, per se, it's just not *slick*. As an officially licenced app and service, DDB is absolutely fine. I forsee it slowly replacing most of my online tools for both DMing, and playing. But the fewer bits of backwardness that stand out to the user, the better the tool will be regarded.
At present, we have a highly polished work in progress - which Curse are very open about. The fact that they are continually working on improvements is fantastic, and were they to include the reduction of redundancy in one of their upgrades, it would be a marked improvement for those like myself.
What you fail to understand is that the company that owns this website (Curse LLC, a subsidiary of Fandom Inc.) is under contract with the company that publishes D&D (Wizards of the Coast, owned by Hasbro) to portray things as accurately as possible. WotC published two different versions of the spells, one named, the other not. DDB is therefore contractually obligated to present both as they are written. They don’t have a choice. They are bound by legal contract with the game’s publisher to do it this way.
What you want to ask for is an exclusion filter. That way you could exclude the Basic rules from your search. Right now the filters available are ...poor, in this regard (all sources show up in the filter-by-source dropdown, including sources without spells, to say nothing of the UI issues with it being a dropdown as opposed to a toggleable list with checkboxes). Other people have asked for this too, and exclusion filters will help with a handful of other issues.
What you fail to understand is that the company that owns this website (Curse LLC, a subsidiary of Fandom Inc.) is under contract with the company that publishes D&D (Wizards of the Coast, owned by Hasbro) to portray things as accurately as possible. WotC published two different versions of the spells, one named, the other not. DDB is therefore contractually obligated to present both as they are written. They don’t have a choice. They are bound by legal contract with the game’s publisher to do it this way.
I'm....going to go ahead and pass over that insulting baseless accusation that’s dripping with unearned condescension.
What you want to ask for is an exclusion filter. That way you could exclude the Basic rules from your search. Right now the filters available are ...poor, in this regard (all sources show up in the filter-by-source dropdown, including sources without spells, to say nothing of the UI issues with it being a dropdown as opposed to a toggleable list with checkboxes). Other people have asked for this too, and exclusion filters will help with a handful of other issues.
I think you're absolutely correct here, pocketmouse - add the feature of this filter automatically activating once you've purchased the PHB, and it solves this issue in its entirety.
What you fail to understand is that the company that owns this website (Curse LLC, a subsidiary of Fandom Inc.) is under contract with the company that publishes D&D (Wizards of the Coast, owned by Hasbro) to portray things as accurately as possible. WotC published two different versions of the spells, one named, the other not. DDB is therefore contractually obligated to present both as they are written. They don’t have a choice. They are bound by legal contract with the game’s publisher to do it this way.
I'm....going to go ahead and pass over that insulting baseless accusation that’s dripping with unearned condescension.
There is neither accusation nor condescension. It is simply an explanation of why DDB has to portray things the way they have. It is a contractual obligation. They have no choice.
There is neither accusation nor condescension. It is simply an explanation of why DDB has to portray things the way they have. It is a contractual obligation. They have no choice.
Apologies, that was supposed to read from "assumption". Refering to your assumption of my ignorance in the sentence "what you fail to understand," wherein lies the condescension.
There is neither accusation nor condescension. It is simply an explanation of why DDB has to portray things the way they have. It is a contractual obligation. They have no choice.
Apologies, that was supposed to read from "assumption". Refering to your assumption of my ignorance in the sentence "what you fail to understand," wherein lies the condescension.
My apologies. I had been giving you the benefit of the doubt in coming from the position that you did not realize what you were asking them to do could technically be in violation of their licensing distribution contract, and therefore illegal. Since you clearly understand that what you are asking DDB to do break their legally binding contract with the game’s publisher and risk getting sued or shut down, I’ll take my leave.
This is silly and it just splits up any conversation to be had on the pages for these spells.
Examples include Melf's Acid Arrow (aka Acid Arrow), Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound (aka Faithful Hound), and Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum (aka Private Sanctum).
This is how WotC presents the spells (Basic Rules version vs. Player's Handbook version), so I don't think D&D Beyond has any choice but to also present the spells this way.
That is correct. The named versions of the spells are all trademarked and could only appear in a payed content publication like the PHB. The non-trademarked generic versions were created for inclusion in the free Basic Rules or free SRD. For all intents and purposes, they are technically different spells.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
The ability to possibly overright SRD content with PHB content, where appropriate would be an amazing [if likely complex, from a programming standpoint] feature.
Does it really matter though? You pick one or the other. I'm not sure how it's a problem.
It's not a problem, per se, it's just not *slick*. As an officially licenced app and service, DDB is absolutely fine. I forsee it slowly replacing most of my online tools for both DMing, and playing. But the fewer bits of backwardness that stand out to the user, the better the tool will be regarded.
At present, we have a highly polished work in progress - which Curse are very open about. The fact that they are continually working on improvements is fantastic, and were they to include the reduction of redundancy in one of their upgrades, it would be a marked improvement for those like myself.
What you fail to understand is that the company that owns this website (Curse LLC, a subsidiary of Fandom Inc.) is under contract with the company that publishes D&D (Wizards of the Coast, owned by Hasbro) to portray things as accurately as possible. WotC published two different versions of the spells, one named, the other not. DDB is therefore contractually obligated to present both as they are written. They don’t have a choice. They are bound by legal contract with the game’s publisher to do it this way.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
What you want to ask for is an exclusion filter. That way you could exclude the Basic rules from your search. Right now the filters available are ...poor, in this regard (all sources show up in the filter-by-source dropdown, including sources without spells, to say nothing of the UI issues with it being a dropdown as opposed to a toggleable list with checkboxes). Other people have asked for this too, and exclusion filters will help with a handful of other issues.
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I'm....going to go ahead and pass over that insulting baseless accusation that’s dripping with unearned condescension.
I think you're absolutely correct here, pocketmouse - add the feature of this filter automatically activating once you've purchased the PHB, and it solves this issue in its entirety.
There is neither accusation nor condescension. It is simply an explanation of why DDB has to portray things the way they have. It is a contractual obligation. They have no choice.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting
Apologies, that was supposed to read from "assumption". Refering to your assumption of my ignorance in the sentence "what you fail to understand," wherein lies the condescension.
My apologies. I had been giving you the benefit of the doubt in coming from the position that you did not realize what you were asking them to do could technically be in violation of their licensing distribution contract, and therefore illegal. Since you clearly understand that what you are asking DDB to do break their legally binding contract with the game’s publisher and risk getting sued or shut down, I’ll take my leave.
Creating Epic Boons on DDB
DDB Buyers' Guide
Hardcovers, DDB & You
Content Troubleshooting