You can stop accusing Newper, and anyone else who's rolled for stats in 5e, of cheating any time now.
Newper got lucky and was excited about getting lucky. He wanted to share. He got great rolls and was looking forward to using them. He does not need your grumpiness, and I will not stand for further accusations from you. Lucky rolls happen, just like unlucky ones. He never said he didn't roll them at the table in front of the DM. Clearly his DM accepted the rolls. Nobody asked you to come in here and try to sabotage the guy's fun with your nasty accusations.
I could not agree more.
It amazes me how one person can be so butthurt over the way other people enjoy a game.
My experience is that there's a lot of rolling up multiple characters and then picking the best that no-one actually thinks of as cheating. However, it's certainly possible to have rolling for stats where everyone does it totally legit.
Isn't it standard practice to roll at the table at session 0 where everyone can see the rolls?
Your bad history is irrelevant here. You have no reason, and no call, to insult Newper and accuse him of cheating when you've never met him before in your life and never once shared a table with him. Whatever bad-faith nonsense your old players inflicted on you is their problem and your problem, not Newper's problem.
Stop. It.
Nice try. Don't put words in my mouth. I never accused anyone specifically of cheating.
My experience is that there's a lot of rolling up multiple characters and then picking the best that no-one actually thinks of as cheating. However, it's certainly possible to have rolling for stats where everyone does it totally legit.
Isn't it standard practice to roll at the table at session 0 where everyone can see the rolls?
Depends on the group. Most groups who roll at least have the DM "witness" the rolls, but not necessarily everybody else. Some like to have everyone create their character without knowing to much about anyone else's, others prefer to create a somewhat balanced party instead of leaving that to chance. There are lots of ways to create characters.
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You can stop accusing Newper, and anyone else who's rolled for stats in 5e, of cheating any time now.
Newper got lucky and was excited about getting lucky. He wanted to share. He got great rolls and was looking forward to using them. He does not need your grumpiness, and I will not stand for further accusations from you. Lucky rolls happen, just like unlucky ones. He never said he didn't roll them at the table in front of the DM. Clearly his DM accepted the rolls. Nobody asked you to come in here and try to sabotage the guy's fun with your nasty accusations.
I could not agree more.
It amazes me how one person can be so butthurt over the way other people enjoy a game.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed". Then we have to patiently, or impatiently , depending on the frequency, have to explain, "No, this a fair table, and I am not going to try to cater to a wide swing in stats across a party".
It amazes me that how a select vocal few can be so butthurt over the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game. If I said to a player "Your char gets 5 ASI's over the course of its progression, but the guy sitting next to you, today he chose the special chair, and his char gets 10 ASI's, with 5 of at level 0, over the course of that same progression.", the first player would go nuts, and rightly so.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
You can stop accusing Newper, and anyone else who's rolled for stats in 5e, of cheating any time now.
Newper got lucky and was excited about getting lucky. He wanted to share. He got great rolls and was looking forward to using them. He does not need your grumpiness, and I will not stand for further accusations from you. Lucky rolls happen, just like unlucky ones. He never said he didn't roll them at the table in front of the DM. Clearly his DM accepted the rolls. Nobody asked you to come in here and try to sabotage the guy's fun with your nasty accusations.
I could not agree more.
It amazes me how one person can be so butthurt over the way other people enjoy a game.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using),go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed". Then we have to patiently, or impatiently , depending on the frequency, have to explain, "No, this a fair table, and I am not going to try to cater to a wide swing in stats across a party".
It amazes me that how a select vocal few can be so butthurt over the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.If I said to a player "Your char gets 5 ASI's over the course of its progression, but the guy sitting next to you, today he chose the special chair, and his char gets 10 ASI's, with 5 of at level 0, over the course of that same progression.", the first player would go nuts, and rightly so.
That is your table. This is Newper's group's table. Cut your shit out and get the **** off their table. You are not some sage GM espousing the values of D&D; you are like one of those annoying rules lawyer disrupting other group's table.
You use session zero to screen for players. Stop being a snowflake, grow a pair, and kick those players out. They will find their own table.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
No one here gives a shit about standardized play. If you want that so bad, go play AL.
I do not go to your table and tell you how to run your game, so you can get the **** off my table and stop telling me what to do. It is GMs and players like you who are ruining the hobby with your attitude, perpetuating all these childish, obnoxious behavior in the community.
If you are so desperate to play that you will accept any kind of player because adults do not play with you, that is on you as a person. You need to look in the mirror and reflect on why better players do not want to play with you. You yourself need to grow the hell up if you want better players to show up at your table.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
Ugh... No seriously, how is that even supposed to make sense? I've played at typical beer & pretzels tables and others where the game was serious business and ooc shenanigans were frowned upon, with borderline freeform actors and with the most anal of ruleslawyers, with groups that enjoyed exploring sensitive themes in game and with others where the most insensitive, juvenile crap made up half the session, with DMs who homebrewed and houseruled half the mechanics and with DMs who wouldn't even consider running anything other than an officially published campaign. Standardization is futile.
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You can stop accusing Newper, and anyone else who's rolled for stats in 5e, of cheating any time now.
Newper got lucky and was excited about getting lucky. He wanted to share. He got great rolls and was looking forward to using them. He does not need your grumpiness, and I will not stand for further accusations from you. Lucky rolls happen, just like unlucky ones. He never said he didn't roll them at the table in front of the DM. Clearly his DM accepted the rolls. Nobody asked you to come in here and try to sabotage the guy's fun with your nasty accusations.
I could not agree more.
It amazes me how one person can be so butthurt over the way other people enjoy a game.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using),go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed". Then we have to patiently, or impatiently , depending on the frequency, have to explain, "No, this a fair table, and I am not going to try to cater to a wide swing in stats across a party".
It amazes me that how a select vocal few can be so butthurt over the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.If I said to a player "Your char gets 5 ASI's over the course of its progression, but the guy sitting next to you, today he chose the special chair, and his char gets 10 ASI's, with 5 of at level 0, over the course of that same progression.", the first player would go nuts, and rightly so.
That is your table. This is Newper's group's table. Cut your shit out and get the **** off their table. You are not some sage GM espousing the values of D&D; you are like one of those annoying rules lawyer disrupting other group's table.
You use session zero to screen for players. Stop being a snowflake, grow a pair, and kick those players out. They will find their own table.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
No one here gives a shit about standardized play. If you want that so bad, go play AL.
I do not go to your table and tell you how to run your game, so you can get the **** off my table and stop telling me what to do. It is GMs and players like you who are ruining the hobby with your attitude, perpetuating all these childish, obnoxious behavior in the community.
If you are so desperate to play that you will accept any kind of player because adults do not play with you, that is on you as a person. You need to look in the mirror and reflect on why better players do not want to play with you. You yourself need to grow the hell up if you want better players to show up at your table.
Wow...struck a nerve, did I?
Standardized rules allow for the seamless transition of concepts of play as players DO transition from table to table. ESPECIALLY during Covid, where more games are online. How many threads are there for "looking for a game"? I play or DM in 3 games at the moment, with another one that I DM and another one I play in on hiatus because they are in-person games, and well...covid.
The main location I play at is a gaming cafe that pre-covid had up to 5 games running simultaneously. Plus, all DM's would take walk-in traffic from the street. We have pre-defined timeslots. It is HIGHLY disruptive, and soaks up valuable gametime, when I have some new player rolls in and say "Oh, I have my own char that I pre-rolled, and he has great starting stats.", and then I have to burn time working out this player what their stats are, with the cascade effect of removing HP and Feats, because they NEVER EVER show up with a char that has substandard stats that have to be bumped UP.
So yeah, my vast level of experience makes me qualified to talk about what happens at other tables, because what happens at other tables eventually impacts the D&D community writ large. Oh, and last thing: I don't play with kids, because they are the ones that most likely not to have the maturity to handle it when I say :"You don't roll for stats at my table."
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
Ugh... No seriously, how is that even supposed to make sense? I've played at typical beer & pretzels tables and others where the game was serious business and ooc shenanigans were frowned upon, with borderline freeform actors and with the most anal of ruleslawyers, with groups that enjoyed exploring sensitive themes in game and with others where the most insensitive, juvenile crap made up half the session, with DMs who homebrewed and houseruled half the mechanics and with DMs who wouldn't even consider running anything other than an officially published campaign. Standardization is futile.
It would have been a better D&D environment overall if WOTC had said, "These are the rules, and you are not allowed to move beyond these guard rails". By saying "You are only limited by your imagination", WOTC has fostered the freeform mess that we witness today. But yes, it undoubtedly allows WOTC to sell more product, which is what is the driving force.
Standardized rules allow for the seamless transition of concepts of play as players DO transition from table to table. ESPECIALLY during Covid, where more games are online. How many threads are there for "looking for a game"? I play or DM in 3 games at the moment, with another one that I DM and another one I play in on hiatus because they are in-person games, and well...covid.
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So yeah, my vast level of experience makes me qualified to talk about what happens at other tables, because what happens at other tables eventually impacts the D&D community writ large. Oh, and last thing: I don't play with kids, because they are the ones that most likely not to have the maturity to handle it when I say :"You don't roll for stats at my table."
Well, if you're gonna move the goalposts...
You know that "rolling for stats" is the standard rule, right?
Standardized rules allow for the seamless transition of concepts of play as players DO transition from table to table. ESPECIALLY during Covid, where more games are online. How many threads are there for "looking for a game"? I play or DM in 3 games at the moment, with another one that I DM and another one I play in on hiatus because they are in-person games, and well...covid.
Honestly, the idea of transferring characters from game to game seems odd to me, and often runs into problems far larger than rolling for stats, but that's what things like Adventurer's League rules are for.
You can stop accusing Newper, and anyone else who's rolled for stats in 5e, of cheating any time now.
Newper got lucky and was excited about getting lucky. He wanted to share. He got great rolls and was looking forward to using them. He does not need your grumpiness, and I will not stand for further accusations from you. Lucky rolls happen, just like unlucky ones. He never said he didn't roll them at the table in front of the DM. Clearly his DM accepted the rolls. Nobody asked you to come in here and try to sabotage the guy's fun with your nasty accusations.
I could not agree more.
It amazes me how one person can be so butthurt over the way other people enjoy a game.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using),go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed". Then we have to patiently, or impatiently , depending on the frequency, have to explain, "No, this a fair table, and I am not going to try to cater to a wide swing in stats across a party".
It amazes me that how a select vocal few can be so butthurt over the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.If I said to a player "Your char gets 5 ASI's over the course of its progression, but the guy sitting next to you, today he chose the special chair, and his char gets 10 ASI's, with 5 of at level 0, over the course of that same progression.", the first player would go nuts, and rightly so.
That is your table. This is Newper's group's table. Cut your shit out and get the **** off their table. You are not some sage GM espousing the values of D&D; you are like one of those annoying rules lawyer disrupting other group's table.
You use session zero to screen for players. Stop being a snowflake, grow a pair, and kick those players out. They will find their own table.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
No one here gives a shit about standardized play. If you want that so bad, go play AL.
I do not go to your table and tell you how to run your game, so you can get the **** off my table and stop telling me what to do. It is GMs and players like you who are ruining the hobby with your attitude, perpetuating all these childish, obnoxious behavior in the community.
If you are so desperate to play that you will accept any kind of player because adults do not play with you, that is on you as a person. You need to look in the mirror and reflect on why better players do not want to play with you. You yourself need to grow the hell up if you want better players to show up at your table.
Wow...struck a nerve, did I?
Standardized rules allow for the seamless transition of concepts of play as players DO transition from table to table. ESPECIALLY during Covid, where more games are online. How many threads are there for "looking for a game"? I play or DM in 3 games at the moment, with another one that I DM and another one I play in on hiatus because they are in-person games, and well...covid.
The main location I play at is a gaming cafe that pre-covid had up to 5 games running simultaneously. Plus, all DM's would take walk-in traffic from the street. We have pre-defined timeslots. It is HIGHLY disruptive, and soaks up valuable gametime, when I have some new player rolls in and say "Oh, I have my own char that I pre-rolled, and he has great starting stats.", and then I have to burn time working out this player what their stats are, with the cascade effect of removing HP and Feats, because they NEVER EVER show up with a char that has substandard stats that have to be bumped UP.
So yeah, my vast level of experience makes me qualified to talk about what happens at other tables, because what happens at other tables eventually impacts the D&D community writ large. Oh, and last thing: I don't play with kids, because they are the ones that most likely not to have the maturity to handle it when I say :"You don't roll for stats at my table."
For Christ's sake there is AL. Use it.
I do not deal with bullshit. If they cannot be bothered to read the rules beforehand, they are an automatic kick. This is not astrophysics.
If you cannot even handle something as simple as screening for players, your vast level of experience means shit at Newper's table, my table, and many other tables. We have players that understand the nuances and difference of each GM and are okay with it.
Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed".
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
...the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
Ugh... No seriously, how is that even supposed to make sense? I've played at typical beer & pretzels tables and others where the game was serious business and ooc shenanigans were frowned upon, with borderline freeform actors and with the most anal of ruleslawyers, with groups that enjoyed exploring sensitive themes in game and with others where the most insensitive, juvenile crap made up half the session, with DMs who homebrewed and houseruled half the mechanics and with DMs who wouldn't even consider running anything other than an officially published campaign. Standardization is futile.
It would have been a better D&D environment overall if WOTC had said, "These are the rules, and you are not allowed to move beyond these guard rails". By saying "You are only limited by your imagination", WOTC has fostered the freeform mess that we witness today. But yes, it undoubtedly allows WOTC to sell more product, which is what is the driving force.
Lol. And you think everybody would have fallen in line with that? Particularly the old TSR crowd? Players and DMs are going to do what they're going to do, ten commandments delivered from up high be damned. As the true classic spirit of D&D has it.
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The main location I play at is a gaming cafe that pre-covid had up to 5 games running simultaneously. Plus, all DM's would take walk-in traffic from the street. We have pre-defined timeslots. It is HIGHLY disruptive, and soaks up valuable gametime, when I have some new player rolls in and say "Oh, I have my own char that I pre-rolled, and he has great starting stats.", and then I have to burn time working out this player what their stats are, with the cascade effect of removing HP and Feats, because they NEVER EVER show up with a char that has substandard stats that have to be bumped UP.
Why are you micromanaging this? Why not simply tell them what the rules for that table are and let them conform their character to those rules, instead of getting worked up over it?
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The main location I play at is a gaming cafe that pre-covid had up to 5 games running simultaneously. Plus, all DM's would take walk-in traffic from the street. We have pre-defined timeslots. It is HIGHLY disruptive, and soaks up valuable gametime, when I have some new player rolls in and say "Oh, I have my own char that I pre-rolled, and he has great starting stats.", and then I have to burn time working out this player what their stats are, with the cascade effect of removing HP and Feats, because they NEVER EVER show up with a char that has substandard stats that have to be bumped UP.
Why are you micromanaging this? Why not simply tell them what the rules for that table are and let them conform their character to those rules, instead of getting worked up over it?
A campaign that intends to be friendly to drop-ins should generally have a written document giving background and rules. And yes, this probably means point build, and for higher level builds, rules about equipment.
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Wow, just made a new character in a campaign we're starting up. I just wanted to post my rolls here in spirit of the thread.
I got the following:
16, 14, 10, 15, 17, 16
I'm quite satisfied with this. This will be a lot of fun.
Altrazin Aghanes - Wizard/Fighter
Varpulis Windhowl - Fighter
Skolson Demjon - Cleric/Fighter
:O
I could not agree more.
It amazes me how one person can be so butthurt over the way other people enjoy a game.
Altrazin Aghanes - Wizard/Fighter
Varpulis Windhowl - Fighter
Skolson Demjon - Cleric/Fighter
Isn't it standard practice to roll at the table at session 0 where everyone can see the rolls?
Altrazin Aghanes - Wizard/Fighter
Varpulis Windhowl - Fighter
Skolson Demjon - Cleric/Fighter
Yes you did.
Altrazin Aghanes - Wizard/Fighter
Varpulis Windhowl - Fighter
Skolson Demjon - Cleric/Fighter
Depends on the group. Most groups who roll at least have the DM "witness" the rolls, but not necessarily everybody else. Some like to have everyone create their character without knowing to much about anyone else's, others prefer to create a somewhat balanced party instead of leaving that to chance. There are lots of ways to create characters.
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Because those that believe starting positions should all be fair, with every player beginning with the same raw materials (raw ability scores, or a common point system that all are using), go berserk when players show up and say "But my last DM said we could roll for stats, and the PHB says it is is allowed". Then we have to patiently, or impatiently , depending on the frequency, have to explain, "No, this a fair table, and I am not going to try to cater to a wide swing in stats across a party".
It amazes me that how a select vocal few can be so butthurt over the fact that having every one with the same starting position is the best way to enjoy the game. If I said to a player "Your char gets 5 ASI's over the course of its progression, but the guy sitting next to you, today he chose the special chair, and his char gets 10 ASI's, with 5 of at level 0, over the course of that same progression.", the first player would go nuts, and rightly so.
No-one in this thread is doing that. They are at their own tables, doing their own thing. You are tilting at windmills.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Get your logic straight.
Right...and players don't play in multiple games, with multiple DM's, simultaneously, or over the course of their gaming lives. Standardized rules across ALL of the D&D world make the lives of DM's, AND players, better. And randomized starting stats would be the first thing blown up as it defeats the entire purpose of standardization.
That is your table. This is Newper's group's table. Cut your shit out and get the **** off their table. You are not some sage GM espousing the values of D&D; you are like one of those annoying rules lawyer disrupting other group's table.
You use session zero to screen for players. Stop being a snowflake, grow a pair, and kick those players out. They will find their own table.
No one here gives a shit about standardized play. If you want that so bad, go play AL.
I do not go to your table and tell you how to run your game, so you can get the **** off my table and stop telling me what to do. It is GMs and players like you who are ruining the hobby with your attitude, perpetuating all these childish, obnoxious behavior in the community.
If you are so desperate to play that you will accept any kind of player because adults do not play with you, that is on you as a person. You need to look in the mirror and reflect on why better players do not want to play with you. You yourself need to grow the hell up if you want better players to show up at your table.
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I assure you, I will never show up at your table to play.
And, statistically, no-one else in this thread will, either.
Ugh... No seriously, how is that even supposed to make sense? I've played at typical beer & pretzels tables and others where the game was serious business and ooc shenanigans were frowned upon, with borderline freeform actors and with the most anal of ruleslawyers, with groups that enjoyed exploring sensitive themes in game and with others where the most insensitive, juvenile crap made up half the session, with DMs who homebrewed and houseruled half the mechanics and with DMs who wouldn't even consider running anything other than an officially published campaign. Standardization is futile.
Want to start playing but don't have anyone to play with? You can try these options: [link].
Wow...struck a nerve, did I?
Standardized rules allow for the seamless transition of concepts of play as players DO transition from table to table. ESPECIALLY during Covid, where more games are online. How many threads are there for "looking for a game"? I play or DM in 3 games at the moment, with another one that I DM and another one I play in on hiatus because they are in-person games, and well...covid.
The main location I play at is a gaming cafe that pre-covid had up to 5 games running simultaneously. Plus, all DM's would take walk-in traffic from the street. We have pre-defined timeslots. It is HIGHLY disruptive, and soaks up valuable gametime, when I have some new player rolls in and say "Oh, I have my own char that I pre-rolled, and he has great starting stats.", and then I have to burn time working out this player what their stats are, with the cascade effect of removing HP and Feats, because they NEVER EVER show up with a char that has substandard stats that have to be bumped UP.
So yeah, my vast level of experience makes me qualified to talk about what happens at other tables, because what happens at other tables eventually impacts the D&D community writ large. Oh, and last thing: I don't play with kids, because they are the ones that most likely not to have the maturity to handle it when I say :"You don't roll for stats at my table."
It would have been a better D&D environment overall if WOTC had said, "These are the rules, and you are not allowed to move beyond these guard rails". By saying "You are only limited by your imagination", WOTC has fostered the freeform mess that we witness today. But yes, it undoubtedly allows WOTC to sell more product, which is what is the driving force.
Well, if you're gonna move the goalposts...
You know that "rolling for stats" is the standard rule, right?
Honestly, the idea of transferring characters from game to game seems odd to me, and often runs into problems far larger than rolling for stats, but that's what things like Adventurer's League rules are for.
For Christ's sake there is AL. Use it.
I do not deal with bullshit. If they cannot be bothered to read the rules beforehand, they are an automatic kick. This is not astrophysics.
If you cannot even handle something as simple as screening for players, your vast level of experience means shit at Newper's table, my table, and many other tables. We have players that understand the nuances and difference of each GM and are okay with it.
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Lol. And you think everybody would have fallen in line with that? Particularly the old TSR crowd? Players and DMs are going to do what they're going to do, ten commandments delivered from up high be damned. As the true classic spirit of D&D has it.
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Why are you micromanaging this? Why not simply tell them what the rules for that table are and let them conform their character to those rules, instead of getting worked up over it?
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A campaign that intends to be friendly to drop-ins should generally have a written document giving background and rules. And yes, this probably means point build, and for higher level builds, rules about equipment.