As a person who is not allowed to have discord, I feel quite excluded from the DND community because I cannot play online. I have NEVER found an online campaign that was not playing on discord. HELP!?
Why can't you use Discord, might be an easier question, so we know what we need to avoid.
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OK, but why is there a problem with Discord? Because otherwise we won't know what would.be suitable. If they're complaining about noise, then roll20 will probably be out, if its because they hate the CEO, then Roll20 might be an option. We need to know what the problem is before we can realistically offer other solutions.
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China owns about 40% of Discord, and the American founder was investigated by the DOJ for being a scam artist with his first startup.
Discord is the stereotypical "Give it away for free while we turn it into the single most populous startup, figure out how to make a profit later". Many people think that China bought so much so as to keep them active while they scrape every bit of personal info on all the users. In any case, they have made it incredibly attractive to people. Basically it is a free service with the features of a high end one, funded by investors rather than profits and some serious privacy concerns.
Of course, I still use it, because it is a free service with the features of a high end one.
That said, a few people use other services. I play in a game that uses Zoom because the DM has a paid account from work that they let him use for non-work purposes. (Sorry, not looking for new players, closing in on 20th level with 4 and we want to finish it up).
Many people on Roll20 prefer to use discord because roll20 is a resource intensive app and if you offload the audio/visual you can run the Zoom/Discord/Skype on your tablet/phone while your PC runs Roll20.
My advice to you is become a DM, start your own game and use whatever Audio App you are allowed to use.
Currently I'm running a game on Zoom. Microsoft Teams might be usable as well for that matter Google Teams all of those allow you to limit the people you have as friends and therefore the people who can join the chat. Though I don't know all the various costs or availability.
Depending on your location it may be worth asking your parents to take you to a local dnd club - some libraries run them, and so do some after-school clubs which may allow you to join in despite not being schooled there. Making sure your parents are involved in some way (taking you there & picking you up ater, or staying there to read a book while you play) will help them to trust it better than you saying "I'm off to meet strangers for several hours, be back later!". It will also give you a chance (if you do find a club) to meet like-minded people in real life, which is always a good thing to do. The internet is not a proxy for real socal interaction - the colossal spike of social anxiety in the population since the internet became as important as oxygen should make that abundantly clear.
Once you have introuced your parents to the people you would like to play with, you can try to organise the means by which to do so online - In my experience of online play, Discord has been used almost exclusively for voice chat, so pretty much any other voice chat will work for that - facebook messenger, whatsapp, skype, zoom, and so on. Roll20 is the board, and discord is the voice from convenience.
There are also play by post games on this forum which can let you play through (you guessed it) posting! It's different to live dnd, because you can post and then find you're waiting for a bit before anyone responds - it's a bit slower. On the other hand, it lets you build an excellent narrative, because you can write lengthy descriptions of things without worrying so much on how long it takes - EG, if someone asks you to describe your character, you could post a summary description for people to read quickly, and a spoilered short novel about them if you wanted to go into all the details.
My advice is, considering your parents clearly care about your safety and want to be involved, to talk to them about it - tell them what you want to do, and ask them to help you to do it - to find the right program for you to use. I'm sure you can put together a group, but you have to appreciate that if you parents concerns with Discord are you talking to strangers, then that concern will remai nno matter how you talk to them - and thats fine, you just need to sort this out with your parents, not to try and work around them!
Roll 20 has built in voice chat as well, but no software selection choice is really going to help if the problem is your parents don't want you voice talking or communicating in general with people you met over the internet.
I'd recommend looking for a play by post or trying to find people to start one in the play by post section of the forum.
I appreciate the advice... I am involved with my library's DND club but we meet only 2 times a month and only during the summer. I would like to start another campaign with the people there that would meet more often and over the phone, but we would need a dm because the dm for the library campaign is an adult who works for the library and has a job and a life and cannot run a second campaign for us.
Could you or one of your friends DM then? It's a fun role to do. If you don't have the books, your parents might be willing to help out. You only really need the PHB and maybe an adventure book.
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Hmmmm I know how to solve the problem, introduce the game to them and let them play with you.
A buddy of mine had the same problem, same situation, and his parents were too busy to play with him, especially since this guy probably isn’t the only child being homeschooled, his guardians are gonna be busy.
Zoom has worked well before for me but if that just doesn’t work for you for some reason, ( Bad Wi-Fi etc. ) there are probably other options.
ThorukDuckSlayer had some good ideas and it would be wise heed them, meeting local people your age on zoom and then after a time, going someplace with you parent to have one-shot and see how that works out.
I feel your pain bruh :(.
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As a person who is not allowed to have discord, I feel quite excluded from the DND community because I cannot play online. I have NEVER found an online campaign that was not playing on discord. HELP!?
What about Roll20 or PbP?
Why can't you use Discord, might be an easier question, so we know what we need to avoid.
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Indeed why can't you use discord?
I personally hate using discord and refuse to, so I feel your pain.
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Can you get some friends together and play in person?
OK, but why is there a problem with Discord? Because otherwise we won't know what would.be suitable. If they're complaining about noise, then roll20 will probably be out, if its because they hate the CEO, then Roll20 might be an option. We need to know what the problem is before we can realistically offer other solutions.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Cause i can talk to strangers, and they cannot put parental controls on it.
I am homeschooled and have no friends...
China owns about 40% of Discord, and the American founder was investigated by the DOJ for being a scam artist with his first startup.
Discord is the stereotypical "Give it away for free while we turn it into the single most populous startup, figure out how to make a profit later". Many people think that China bought so much so as to keep them active while they scrape every bit of personal info on all the users. In any case, they have made it incredibly attractive to people. Basically it is a free service with the features of a high end one, funded by investors rather than profits and some serious privacy concerns.
Of course, I still use it, because it is a free service with the features of a high end one.
That said, a few people use other services. I play in a game that uses Zoom because the DM has a paid account from work that they let him use for non-work purposes. (Sorry, not looking for new players, closing in on 20th level with 4 and we want to finish it up).
Many people on Roll20 prefer to use discord because roll20 is a resource intensive app and if you offload the audio/visual you can run the Zoom/Discord/Skype on your tablet/phone while your PC runs Roll20.
My advice to you is become a DM, start your own game and use whatever Audio App you are allowed to use.
Currently I'm running a game on Zoom. Microsoft Teams might be usable as well for that matter Google Teams all of those allow you to limit the people you have as friends and therefore the people who can join the chat. Though I don't know all the various costs or availability.
Depending on your location it may be worth asking your parents to take you to a local dnd club - some libraries run them, and so do some after-school clubs which may allow you to join in despite not being schooled there. Making sure your parents are involved in some way (taking you there & picking you up ater, or staying there to read a book while you play) will help them to trust it better than you saying "I'm off to meet strangers for several hours, be back later!". It will also give you a chance (if you do find a club) to meet like-minded people in real life, which is always a good thing to do. The internet is not a proxy for real socal interaction - the colossal spike of social anxiety in the population since the internet became as important as oxygen should make that abundantly clear.
Once you have introuced your parents to the people you would like to play with, you can try to organise the means by which to do so online - In my experience of online play, Discord has been used almost exclusively for voice chat, so pretty much any other voice chat will work for that - facebook messenger, whatsapp, skype, zoom, and so on. Roll20 is the board, and discord is the voice from convenience.
There are also play by post games on this forum which can let you play through (you guessed it) posting! It's different to live dnd, because you can post and then find you're waiting for a bit before anyone responds - it's a bit slower. On the other hand, it lets you build an excellent narrative, because you can write lengthy descriptions of things without worrying so much on how long it takes - EG, if someone asks you to describe your character, you could post a summary description for people to read quickly, and a spoilered short novel about them if you wanted to go into all the details.
My advice is, considering your parents clearly care about your safety and want to be involved, to talk to them about it - tell them what you want to do, and ask them to help you to do it - to find the right program for you to use. I'm sure you can put together a group, but you have to appreciate that if you parents concerns with Discord are you talking to strangers, then that concern will remai nno matter how you talk to them - and thats fine, you just need to sort this out with your parents, not to try and work around them!
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Roll 20 has built in voice chat as well, but no software selection choice is really going to help if the problem is your parents don't want you voice talking or communicating in general with people you met over the internet.
I'd recommend looking for a play by post or trying to find people to start one in the play by post section of the forum.
I appreciate the advice... I am involved with my library's DND club but we meet only 2 times a month and only during the summer. I would like to start another campaign with the people there that would meet more often and over the phone, but we would need a dm because the dm for the library campaign is an adult who works for the library and has a job and a life and cannot run a second campaign for us.
Could you or one of your friends DM then? It's a fun role to do. If you don't have the books, your parents might be willing to help out. You only really need the PHB and maybe an adventure book.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Hmmmm I know how to solve the problem, introduce the game to them and let them play with you.
If your parents are especially strict, show them this:
https://www.bark.us/guides/app-management-discord/
https://www.bark.us/blog/monitor-discord-platform-gamers/
It discusses how they can let you use Discord safely with parental controls and message logging.
Get your friends on fb group chat or Google hangouts?
A buddy of mine had the same problem, same situation, and his parents were too busy to play with him, especially since this guy probably isn’t the only child being homeschooled, his guardians are gonna be busy.
Zoom has worked well before for me but if that just doesn’t work for you for some reason, ( Bad Wi-Fi etc. ) there are probably other options.
ThorukDuckSlayer had some good ideas and it would be wise heed them, meeting local people your age on zoom and then after a time, going someplace with you parent to have one-shot and see how that works out.
I feel your pain bruh :(.
Mystic v3 should be official, nuff said.