Sandman, huh? Not something I would've even associated with it.
Although I was more thinking in terms of opening up the possibilities of what "fantasy" could look like, some group pics of the Endless aren't too far off from an adventuring party in 2022
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Sandman, huh? Not something I would've even associated with it.
Although I was more thinking in terms of opening up the possibilities of what "fantasy" could look like, some group pics of the Endless aren't too far off from an adventuring party in 2022
Lol, it's true. Something about the mixing of weird fantastical elements, religious imagery, and very modern fashion and attitude.
You know, I guess Alice in Wonderland was kinda doing that at its time of writing too. It just doesn't feel modern now because it's old.
It's just fun to see it evolve. I'm glad to see the "official look" changing with the times while at least in some way retaining the somewhat cheesy, swords and sorcery roots.
You know I just realised, 4 of the 6 classes in the movie are casters, possibly 5 if the rogue is an arcane trickster, bard, paladin, Druid, sorceror.
That is really interesting as will be good to see the different ways magic is cast by each, the source and the types of spells they cast. Will the bard be purely support, the Druid the “healer” and then the sorceror the artillery and the paladin casting lay on hands and divine smite?
You know I just realised, 4 of the 6 classes in the movie are casters, possibly 5 if the rogue is an arcane trickster, bard, paladin, Druid, sorceror.
That is really interesting as will be good to see the different ways magic is cast by each, the source and the types of spells they cast. Will the bard be purely support, the Druid the “healer” and then the sorceror the artillery and the paladin casting lay on hands and divine smite?
Personally, if I see a paladin using slots to cast spells instead of smiting (besides maybe find steed), it will totally destroy my suspension of disbelief.
I kind of wish they'd had an Artificer, just to see how they showed them casting spells.
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I kind of wish they'd had an Artificer, just to see how they showed them casting spells.
I think that’s a little too exotic for a movie, you want the audience to understand where the magic is from and Artificers are more about making stuff. I think movie 2 is probably where they will show the more exotic stuff like monks and artificers.
Out of interest and as an aside, where in Wales you from?
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You know I just realised, 4 of the 6 classes in the movie are casters, possibly 5 if the rogue is an arcane trickster, bard, paladin, Druid, sorceror.
That is really interesting as will be good to see the different ways magic is cast by each, the source and the types of spells they cast. Will the bard be purely support, the Druid the “healer” and then the sorceror the artillery and the paladin casting lay on hands and divine smite?
The class identification is a tad suspect, particularly for the tiefling (the only spell we see her cast is dimension door... which is not a druid spell).
The class identification is a tad suspect, particularly for the tiefling (the only spell we see her cast is dimension door... which is not a druid spell).
The thing is, what else can she be? It could be Polymorph, but this is implied to be at the beginning when they're the equivalent of of L1 or something, not L7 when she'd be able to cast Polymorph. They've obviously decided not to stick to mechanics too tightly and taken some liberties.
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Owlbears are CR3 critters that would need a level 9 Moon druid to hit, and Dimension Door is a fourth-level spell you need to be a minimum of seventh level to cast.
1.) Don't overthink mechanics. This is something they did for Legend of Vox Machina, too - characters got two or three Signature abilities that were flashy, evocative, and defined them as a character rather than the giant plethora of abilities a regular PC has because that's better for cinematic storytelling. The girl got Wild Shape because turning into a snow-white owlbear is cool and lets them hit multiple 'D&D' notes at once, and DImension Door is just fun. 2.) The director's opinion of "level 1" and what constitutes leveling up over the course of the film are subject to debate. Don't take it too literally. He likely just means the characters are at their nadir when the movie begins and progress towards their zenith, the way D&D is typically meant to be played. The needs of the movie outweigh the restrictions of tabletop mechanics.
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Owlbears are CR3 critters that would need a level 9 Moon druid to hit, and Dimension Door is a fourth-level spell you need to be a minimum of seventh level to cast.
1.) Don't overthink mechanics. This is something they did for Legend of Vox Machina, too - characters got two or three Signature abilities that were flashy, evocative, and defined them as a character rather than the giant plethora of abilities a regular PC has because that's better for cinematic storytelling. The girl got Wild Shape because turning into a snow-white owlbear is cool and lets them hit multiple 'D&D' notes at once, and DImension Door is just fun. 2.) The director's opinion of "level 1" and what constitutes leveling up over the course of the film are subject to debate. Don't take it too literally. He likely just means the characters are at their nadir when the movie begins and progress towards their zenith, the way D&D is typically meant to be played. The needs of the movie outweigh the restrictions of tabletop mechanics.
Actually Vox Machina every spell that was cast was a spell that was actually cast at that point of the adventure so the characters had the spells available.
I have a feeling we will see characters gain new skills/spells as the story progresses (milestone rather than XP I imagine). I also imagine any "level 1" will possibly be shown as flashbacks, this is an origin movie for what I imagine is intended to be a franchise and the go to form of those now days is to do the back and forth narrative. Showing flashbacks etc of characters lives, so I imagine we will see how the Bard and Barbarian (obviously a pair at the movie start) met and get back story for each of the main characters as the movie progresses probably showing them with very little ability.
You know I just realised, 4 of the 6 classes in the movie are casters, possibly 5 if the rogue is an arcane trickster, bard, paladin, Druid, sorceror.
That is really interesting as will be good to see the different ways magic is cast by each, the source and the types of spells they cast. Will the bard be purely support, the Druid the “healer” and then the sorceror the artillery and the paladin casting lay on hands and divine smite?
The class identification is a tad suspect, particularly for the tiefling (the only spell we see her cast is dimension door... which is not a druid spell).
I mean I am going by what the press has officially identified each class as being at the reveal and what the cast have said in interviews openly. The only one who has been told, on pain of death apparently, not to say anything is Hugh Grant who has been detailed as the Rogue but seems to be something else. It is also interesting that "someone from wizards who DM's all the time" (My guess is chris perkins possibly) ran a session for all the main cast except for Hugh Grant where they played there on screen characters as a way to introduce themselves to each other. Apparently it went off the rails really quickly, but I think there is a reason Hugh Grant wasn't there, bit hard to roleplay a dragon :).
As for her casting Dimension Door, it could be a magic item. I think we need to wait until we see the movie before we really start picking things apart.
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Although I was more thinking in terms of opening up the possibilities of what "fantasy" could look like, some group pics of the Endless aren't too far off from an adventuring party in 2022
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Lol, it's true. Something about the mixing of weird fantastical elements, religious imagery, and very modern fashion and attitude.
You know, I guess Alice in Wonderland was kinda doing that at its time of writing too. It just doesn't feel modern now because it's old.
It's just fun to see it evolve. I'm glad to see the "official look" changing with the times while at least in some way retaining the somewhat cheesy, swords and sorcery roots.
You know I just realised, 4 of the 6 classes in the movie are casters, possibly 5 if the rogue is an arcane trickster, bard, paladin, Druid, sorceror.
That is really interesting as will be good to see the different ways magic is cast by each, the source and the types of spells they cast. Will the bard be purely support, the Druid the “healer” and then the sorceror the artillery and the paladin casting lay on hands and divine smite?
Personally, if I see a paladin using slots to cast spells instead of smiting (besides maybe find steed), it will totally destroy my suspension of disbelief.
I kind of wish they'd had an Artificer, just to see how they showed them casting spells.
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I think that’s a little too exotic for a movie, you want the audience to understand where the magic is from and Artificers are more about making stuff. I think movie 2 is probably where they will show the more exotic stuff like monks and artificers.
Perhaps, I'm just curious about it, that's all.
Out of interest and as an aside, where in Wales you from?
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Cut to the Artificer, who never casts spells on screen.
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The class identification is a tad suspect, particularly for the tiefling (the only spell we see her cast is dimension door... which is not a druid spell).
The thing is, what else can she be? It could be Polymorph, but this is implied to be at the beginning when they're the equivalent of of L1 or something, not L7 when she'd be able to cast Polymorph. They've obviously decided not to stick to mechanics too tightly and taken some liberties.
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Owlbears are CR3 critters that would need a level 9 Moon druid to hit, and Dimension Door is a fourth-level spell you need to be a minimum of seventh level to cast.
1.) Don't overthink mechanics. This is something they did for Legend of Vox Machina, too - characters got two or three Signature abilities that were flashy, evocative, and defined them as a character rather than the giant plethora of abilities a regular PC has because that's better for cinematic storytelling. The girl got Wild Shape because turning into a snow-white owlbear is cool and lets them hit multiple 'D&D' notes at once, and DImension Door is just fun.
2.) The director's opinion of "level 1" and what constitutes leveling up over the course of the film are subject to debate. Don't take it too literally. He likely just means the characters are at their nadir when the movie begins and progress towards their zenith, the way D&D is typically meant to be played. The needs of the movie outweigh the restrictions of tabletop mechanics.
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Nah, I'm gonna reserve the right to be mildly annoyed if it turns out the druid can just cast Dimension Door.
Could also be a doppelganger, or someone with Disguise Self.
Guys, consider this:
She's a warlock, and has polymorph from an eldritch invocation.
Warlocks have dimension door.
Hmmm?
(Also I doubt this is true it's just a theory, a FILM THEORY!)
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Well now I just feel sorry for her.
The classes have all been fully confirmed, she is a Druid.
Actually Vox Machina every spell that was cast was a spell that was actually cast at that point of the adventure so the characters had the spells available.
I have a feeling we will see characters gain new skills/spells as the story progresses (milestone rather than XP I imagine). I also imagine any "level 1" will possibly be shown as flashbacks, this is an origin movie for what I imagine is intended to be a franchise and the go to form of those now days is to do the back and forth narrative. Showing flashbacks etc of characters lives, so I imagine we will see how the Bard and Barbarian (obviously a pair at the movie start) met and get back story for each of the main characters as the movie progresses probably showing them with very little ability.
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I mean I am going by what the press has officially identified each class as being at the reveal and what the cast have said in interviews openly. The only one who has been told, on pain of death apparently, not to say anything is Hugh Grant who has been detailed as the Rogue but seems to be something else. It is also interesting that "someone from wizards who DM's all the time" (My guess is chris perkins possibly) ran a session for all the main cast except for Hugh Grant where they played there on screen characters as a way to introduce themselves to each other. Apparently it went off the rails really quickly, but I think there is a reason Hugh Grant wasn't there, bit hard to roleplay a dragon :).
As for her casting Dimension Door, it could be a magic item. I think we need to wait until we see the movie before we really start picking things apart.