I've noticed that it would be easy for anybody to spam the official feedback survey, so any results are already worthless.
Makes me curios if that was by design so they can claim that the survey was contaminated and had to take a while to "sort" through the spam. It's an easy way to disregard and dispose of undesirable entries.
Makes me curios if that was by design so they can claim that the survey was contaminated and had to take a while to "sort" through the spam. It's an easy way to disregard and dispose of undesirable entries.
Conspiratorial thinking is a bit OTT given that damage to 3rd parties was apparently a unintentional of locking down VTTs, not the goal of the OGL1.1
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Makes me curios if that was by design so they can claim that the survey was contaminated and had to take a while to "sort" through the spam. It's an easy way to disregard and dispose of undesirable entries.
Conspiratorial thinking is a bit OTT given that damage to 3rd parties was apparently a unintentional of locking down VTTs, not the goal of the OGL1.1
I am thinking more along the lines of them still trying to railroad the replacement OGL. They can claim that it was the actions of a select group that is not indicative of the whole and they could just discard the entire batch as a result.
Over at the DM Lair, the host made a claim recently that OGL 2.0 has odd language regarding the SRD because WotC cannot copyright game mechanics. I'm no lawyer, but I question this. Aren't protecting the core mechanics of D&D kinda the point of any copyright? I mean, there's a reason TTRPGs utilize different mechanics: Shadowrun vs. World of Darkness vs. D&D vs. anything else.
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Over at the DM Lair, the host made a claim recently that OGL 2.0 has odd language regarding the SRD because WotC cannot copyright game mechanics. I'm no lawyer, but I question this. Aren't protecting the core mechanics of D&D kinda the point of any copyright? I mean, there's a reason TTRPGs utilize different mechanics: Shadowrun vs. World of Darkness vs. D&D vs. anything else.
Courts have ruled that basic game mechanics cannot be copyrighted. Everything that the proposed new OGL would sanction under Creative Commons falls under the court's precedent so it's essentially meaningless. What can be copyrighted are names of monsters unique to the game, characters, and the like. The mechanic of hit points is fair game. Levels are fair game. Ogres are fair game. Beholders, the term at least, is/are unique to D&D. AFAIK.
I think a lot of people don't realize that it doesn't really matter what is or isn't in their copyright or trademark or IP - if Wizards of the Coast wants to spend money on lawyers to run you out of business they can afford to do that more than any one player or small business. The OGL as it -was-, was in essence a promise from a major corporation that they weren't going to be suing everyone left right and center over this kind of thing because that wasn't their priority.
With a break in the status quo and the OGL, it's a BIG red flag to any content creators that lawsuits are back on the menu for WotC - that alone is going to cut down on 1/3rd of the creative market because people who are doing this stuff full time, and doing it well? are frankly too smart to keep investing their time and energy into products that could be made 'illegal' overnight on the whim of a corporation.
A huge reason that D&D is what it is today is because WotC promised not to do this, basically. They're now revoking that promise, and acting surprised pikachu face when everyone gets mad at them for it.
I think a lot of people don't realize that it doesn't really matter what is or isn't in their copyright or trademark or IP - if Wizards of the Coast wants to spend money on lawyers to run you out of business they can afford to do that more than any one player or small business. The OGL as it -was-, was in essence a promise from a major corporation that they weren't going to be suing everyone left right and center over this kind of thing because that wasn't their priority.
With a break in the status quo and the OGL, it's a BIG red flag to any content creators that lawsuits are back on the menu for WotC - that alone is going to cut down on 1/3rd of the creative market because people who are doing this stuff full time, and doing it well? are frankly too smart to keep investing their time and energy into products that could be made 'illegal' overnight on the whim of a corporation.
A huge reason that D&D is what it is today is because WotC promised not to do this, basically. They're now revoking that promise, and acting surprised pikachu face when everyone gets mad at them for it.
What you're describing is "Breach of Contract" and is legally actionable.
That's the point you seem to be missing... we DO have a legal and defensible position against Hasbro (and let's face it... this is really Hasbro's doing...) on this. Your defeatist attitude is pretty much giving your wallet to them and allowing the people who create VTTs and 3PP to starve.
Fighting back isn't just possible, it's already having an effect.
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Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it never happens. Look at our daily mass shootings; murder is illegal, and yet people do it every day. That's kind of how the law works, it's not a magical contract that everyone in the universe MUST abide by - I wish it was that simple, but it just isn't.
Which is why I said - they can OUTSPEND you. I never said they would win in a court of law, I said that they will have the resources to drag out the lawsuit until their enemy is bankrupt because none of us have pockets as deep as Hasbro. That is what I am saying, and it is TRUE. Unless one of us is a secret billionaire and is willing to go to bat against them, I don't think it's really hard to believe either, seems like kind of the logical conclusion to draw imo.
I think legally we have every foot to stand on and legally, Hasbro/WotC is hugely overstepping and saying that they can deauthorize something that included no language on how to deauthorize it, only on how to make a new, more preferrable version that players CHOSE to adapt to, is absurd. However, it's not the kind of lawsuit that they'd actually want to go to court, they'd pull every trick in the book to make it an expensive legal process that went through a Judge that they favored in Washington State [that's a big reason why they wanted the stipulation in the new OGL that says you must pursue all legal action in their backyard, because they're more l ikely to be able to get a favorable ruling from a local judge that they may have connections with. Gives them advantage right off the bat.] and their main goal would just be making it as expensive and obnoxious to the person bringing the lawsuit forward.
It'd be a PR nightmare, but so has all this, and they don't seem to be correcting course very quickly or that well - which means I don't think they'd change course on this either. I do think it's possible for us to 'win' this agument, insisting we deserve to stick, legally, with the original OGL - but I'm not sure if they'll continue to try and implode or not. Corporate idiots are particularly stupid and hard of hearing, so it's kind of a toss up.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it never happens. Look at our daily mass shootings; murder is illegal, and yet people do it every day. That's kind of how the law works, it's not a magical contract that everyone in the universe MUST abide by - I wish it was that simple, but it just isn't.
Which is why I said - they can OUTSPEND you. I never said they would win in a court of law, I said that they will have the resources to drag out the lawsuit until their enemy is bankrupt because none of us have pockets as deep as Hasbro. That is what I am saying, and it is TRUE. Unless one of us is a secret billionaire and is willing to go to bat against them, I don't think it's really hard to believe either, seems like kind of the logical conclusion to draw imo.
I think legally we have every foot to stand on and legally, Hasbro/WotC is hugely overstepping and saying that they can deauthorize something that included no language on how to deauthorize it, only on how to make a new, more preferrable version that players CHOSE to adapt to, is absurd. However, it's not the kind of lawsuit that they'd actually want to go to court, they'd pull every trick in the book to make it an expensive legal process that went through a Judge that they favored in Washington State [that's a big reason why they wanted the stipulation in the new OGL that says you must pursue all legal action in their backyard, because they're more l ikely to be able to get a favorable ruling from a local judge that they may have connections with. Gives them advantage right off the bat.] and their main goal would just be making it as expensive and obnoxious to the person bringing the lawsuit forward.
It'd be a PR nightmare, but so has all this, and they don't seem to be correcting course very quickly or that well - which means I don't think they'd change course on this either. I do think it's possible for us to 'win' this agument, insisting we deserve to stick, legally, with the original OGL - but I'm not sure if they'll continue to try and implode or not. Corporate idiots are particularly stupid and hard of hearing, so it's kind of a toss up.
There are methods of dealing with big bad corporations when it comes to court. An obvious one is something like the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund which would require collaboration, monetary contributions, and commitment. Another is a Class Action Lawsuit which requires certain things to go down.
Even by your own admission both would take a large effort of monetary contributions or a lot of other actions to happen before they can be expected to jump in - just another reason that I don't think anyone should be holding their breath and waiting for this to go to court and see what happens.
This is an issue that, if WotC wants, can take years to settle. That's the point.
Even by your own admission both would take a large effort of monetary contributions or a lot of other actions to happen before they can be expected to jump in - just another reason that I don't think anyone should be holding their breath and waiting for this to go to court and see what happens.
This is an issue that, if WotC wants, can take years to settle. That's the point.
Not if a motion to suppress the new OGL, or at least the deauthorization clause, is ruled on by a judge in the favor of the class filing the suit. That would be one of the very first motions and the class could definitely demonstrate irreparable harm should it be allowed to stand until a decision by the court is forthcoming, not to mention demonstrate a likelihood of winning based upon precedent with the GPL 2 license.
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The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
Even by your own admission both would take a large effort of monetary contributions or a lot of other actions to happen before they can be expected to jump in - just another reason that I don't think anyone should be holding their breath and waiting for this to go to court and see what happens.
This is an issue that, if WotC wants, can take years to settle. That's the point.
Both my son and I, who were Premium Tier members and owned ALL the content (some $900 worth of digital materials), cancelled our subscriptions and my wife also cancelled her free subscription. Additionally, we cancelled our Critical Role Twitch subscription, now years old, given D&D Beyond's support of the show. And, just got the confirmation that my Dragonlance pre-order was also successfully cancelled.
Essentially, if Wizards or DDB is associated with it, we're walking away.
Look at it this way. I love Salmon; we have it at least once a week in our house. But now, suddenly, the quality of the Salmon has gone down while the price has tripled. Well, like the old saying goes, 'they're always more fish in the sea (or river, to be fair)'; Tilapia, Tuna, Cod, not to mention shellfish.
Guess we're just gonna diversify our menu and give up on Salmon until the fishery is sold to someone else who cares more about serving a wide, diverse community rather than screwing everyone over for a buck. Here's the thing about that, though...if no one's there to pay the higher price, what good is it going to do you?
Granted, I'm sure they're be people who don't care; the 'filthy casuals', as I like to refer to them, who will continue to play D&D using DDB because it's easy and comfortable. These are also the people I suspect who likely use the free subscription and won't pay a dime for 'extras'. However, the ones who bought all the Source Books, Adventures, paid the Premium Tier price and all are the ones you pissed off and bailed.
Both my son and I, who were Premium Tier members and owned ALL the content (some $900 worth of digital materials), cancelled our subscriptions and my wife also cancelled her free subscription. Additionally, we cancelled our Critical Role Twitch subscription, now years old, given D&D Beyond's support of the show. And, just got the confirmation that my Dragonlance pre-order was also successfully cancelled.
Essentially, if Wizards or DDB is associated with it, we're walking away.
Look at it this way. I love Salmon; we have it at least once a week in our house. But now, suddenly, the quality of the Salmon has gone down while the price has tripled. Well, like the old saying goes, 'they're always more fish in the sea (or river, to be fair)'; Tilapia, Tuna, Cod, not to mention shellfish.
Guess we're just gonna diversify our menu and give up on Salmon until the fishery is sold to someone else who cares more about serving a wide, diverse community rather than screwing everyone over for a buck. Here's the thing about that, though...if no one's there to pay the higher price, what good is it going to do you?
Granted, I'm sure they're be people who don't care; the 'filthy casuals', as I like to refer to them, who will continue to play D&D using DDB because it's easy and comfortable. These are also the people I suspect who likely use the free subscription and won't pay a dime for 'extras'. However, the ones who bought all the Source Books, Adventures, paid the Premium Tier price and all are the ones you pissed off and bailed.
Way to cut off your nose to spite your face.
Call of Cthulhu, anyone?
How about Zweihander. That's where I've migrated to. If you like CoC I think you'll like it!
Even by your own admission both would take a large effort of monetary contributions or a lot of other actions to happen before they can be expected to jump in - just another reason that I don't think anyone should be holding their breath and waiting for this to go to court and see what happens.
This is an issue that, if WotC wants, can take years to settle. That's the point.
A bit too dismissive
It's not dismissive, it's realistic. The part I'd label as dismissive is people thinking that we're going to fix what WotC is doing by just waiting for... someone, an unknown anyone, to take them to court and get a favorable ruling. Somehow they're supposed to magically do this in record time too; forget the fact that these kinds of cases pretty much always drag on for literally years. I'm an illustrator, the number of peers I've had over the years that tried to take Hallmark or Target to court over copyright infringement are numerous, the number of those instances that were settled in under a year? Zero. Unless you count the ones where the individual artist gave up the suit.
Being right isn't enough in a court of law. It is in principle, but not in practice, or reality.
To everyone that disagrees with me; reiterate what you disagree with. Do you think that I'm just wrong, and that WotC will be taken to court and within, idk, a month or two from now we'll have a ruling on the books saying they were wrong about their ability to deauthorize the OGL? What is it specifically you think I'm wrong about? Because I don't know of any courts that move that fast for starters, least of all civil courts about IP law, just getting a court date can take years itself - especially now that they're dealing with the backlog that COVID caused - how do you see this shaking out differently? Because I'm just not sure what it is y'all even think I'm wrong about. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that the court of law in the US is slow, and it was my impression that we wanted an answer/solution to this whole OGL debacle in under 6 months. So which is it?
I've got a free account really just beacuse one of the groups I play in use it. I had been pondering getting a paid sub before all this but not now. Core 5E rulebooks aside I can't say I've been particular impressed with the WotC 5E products I've brought so far.
Even by your own admission both would take a large effort of monetary contributions or a lot of other actions to happen before they can be expected to jump in - just another reason that I don't think anyone should be holding their breath and waiting for this to go to court and see what happens.
This is an issue that, if WotC wants, can take years to settle. That's the point.
A bit too dismissive
It's not dismissive, it's realistic. The part I'd label as dismissive is people thinking that we're going to fix what WotC is doing by just waiting for... someone, an unknown anyone, to take them to court and get a favorable ruling. Somehow they're supposed to magically do this in record time too; forget the fact that these kinds of cases pretty much always drag on for literally years. I'm an illustrator, the number of peers I've had over the years that tried to take Hallmark or Target to court over copyright infringement are numerous, the number of those instances that were settled in under a year? Zero. Unless you count the ones where the individual artist gave up the suit.
Being right isn't enough in a court of law. It is in principle, but not in practice, or reality.
To everyone that disagrees with me; reiterate what you disagree with. Do you think that I'm just wrong, and that WotC will be taken to court and within, idk, a month or two from now we'll have a ruling on the books saying they were wrong about their ability to deauthorize the OGL? What is it specifically you think I'm wrong about? Because I don't know of any courts that move that fast for starters, least of all civil courts about IP law, just getting a court date can take years itself - especially now that they're dealing with the backlog that COVID caused - how do you see this shaking out differently? Because I'm just not sure what it is y'all even think I'm wrong about. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that the court of law in the US is slow, and it was my impression that we wanted an answer/solution to this whole OGL debacle in under 6 months. So which is it?
The very existence of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund and the very existence of Class Action Lawsuits demonstrate that you are too dismissive. I brought it up without any pretense that it would be easy. Is it viable? Perhaps. I'm not so incredibly certain of the capabilities of large groups as you appear to be. So, yes, you were too dismissive.
Both my son and I, who were Premium Tier members and owned ALL the content (some $900 worth of digital materials), cancelled our subscriptions and my wife also cancelled her free subscription. Additionally, we cancelled our Critical Role Twitch subscription, now years old, given D&D Beyond's support of the show. And, just got the confirmation that my Dragonlance pre-order was also successfully cancelled.
Essentially, if Wizards or DDB is associated with it, we're walking away.
So in order to disassosciate with Beyond over the OGL thing you are punishing Critical Role, one of the 3rd party content creators that people are fighting the new OGL in order to protect? That may not be the most brilliant plan but I fully support your right to carry it out.
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Makes me curios if that was by design so they can claim that the survey was contaminated and had to take a while to "sort" through the spam. It's an easy way to disregard and dispose of undesirable entries.
Conspiratorial thinking is a bit OTT given that damage to 3rd parties was apparently a unintentional of locking down VTTs, not the goal of the OGL1.1
I Cancelled my Master Tier Subscription January 12th 2023 because of "OGL" 1.1 - Resubscribed 28th of Jan, now the SRD is in CC-BY-4.0
I am thinking more along the lines of them still trying to railroad the replacement OGL. They can claim that it was the actions of a select group that is not indicative of the whole and they could just discard the entire batch as a result.
Over at the DM Lair, the host made a claim recently that OGL 2.0 has odd language regarding the SRD because WotC cannot copyright game mechanics. I'm no lawyer, but I question this. Aren't protecting the core mechanics of D&D kinda the point of any copyright? I mean, there's a reason TTRPGs utilize different mechanics: Shadowrun vs. World of Darkness vs. D&D vs. anything else.
C. Foster Payne
"If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around."
Courts have ruled that basic game mechanics cannot be copyrighted. Everything that the proposed new OGL would sanction under Creative Commons falls under the court's precedent so it's essentially meaningless. What can be copyrighted are names of monsters unique to the game, characters, and the like. The mechanic of hit points is fair game. Levels are fair game. Ogres are fair game. Beholders, the term at least, is/are unique to D&D. AFAIK.
I think a lot of people don't realize that it doesn't really matter what is or isn't in their copyright or trademark or IP - if Wizards of the Coast wants to spend money on lawyers to run you out of business they can afford to do that more than any one player or small business. The OGL as it -was-, was in essence a promise from a major corporation that they weren't going to be suing everyone left right and center over this kind of thing because that wasn't their priority.
With a break in the status quo and the OGL, it's a BIG red flag to any content creators that lawsuits are back on the menu for WotC - that alone is going to cut down on 1/3rd of the creative market because people who are doing this stuff full time, and doing it well? are frankly too smart to keep investing their time and energy into products that could be made 'illegal' overnight on the whim of a corporation.
A huge reason that D&D is what it is today is because WotC promised not to do this, basically. They're now revoking that promise, and acting surprised pikachu face when everyone gets mad at them for it.
What you're describing is "Breach of Contract" and is legally actionable.
That's the point you seem to be missing... we DO have a legal and defensible position against Hasbro (and let's face it... this is really Hasbro's doing...) on this. Your defeatist attitude is pretty much giving your wallet to them and allowing the people who create VTTs and 3PP to starve.
Fighting back isn't just possible, it's already having an effect.
Come watch us save the multiverse in "The Lost Dragons of Phandelver" - a homebrew based on Lost Mines of Phandelver, Dragon of Icespire Peak, and They Tyranny of Dragons.
https://www.twitch.tv/kdinla
The Gatewalker Saga - Dragons Beware
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it never happens. Look at our daily mass shootings; murder is illegal, and yet people do it every day. That's kind of how the law works, it's not a magical contract that everyone in the universe MUST abide by - I wish it was that simple, but it just isn't.
Which is why I said - they can OUTSPEND you. I never said they would win in a court of law, I said that they will have the resources to drag out the lawsuit until their enemy is bankrupt because none of us have pockets as deep as Hasbro. That is what I am saying, and it is TRUE. Unless one of us is a secret billionaire and is willing to go to bat against them, I don't think it's really hard to believe either, seems like kind of the logical conclusion to draw imo.
I think legally we have every foot to stand on and legally, Hasbro/WotC is hugely overstepping and saying that they can deauthorize something that included no language on how to deauthorize it, only on how to make a new, more preferrable version that players CHOSE to adapt to, is absurd. However, it's not the kind of lawsuit that they'd actually want to go to court, they'd pull every trick in the book to make it an expensive legal process that went through a Judge that they favored in Washington State [that's a big reason why they wanted the stipulation in the new OGL that says you must pursue all legal action in their backyard, because they're more l ikely to be able to get a favorable ruling from a local judge that they may have connections with. Gives them advantage right off the bat.] and their main goal would just be making it as expensive and obnoxious to the person bringing the lawsuit forward.
It'd be a PR nightmare, but so has all this, and they don't seem to be correcting course very quickly or that well - which means I don't think they'd change course on this either. I do think it's possible for us to 'win' this agument, insisting we deserve to stick, legally, with the original OGL - but I'm not sure if they'll continue to try and implode or not. Corporate idiots are particularly stupid and hard of hearing, so it's kind of a toss up.
There are methods of dealing with big bad corporations when it comes to court. An obvious one is something like the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund which would require collaboration, monetary contributions, and commitment. Another is a Class Action Lawsuit which requires certain things to go down.
Even by your own admission both would take a large effort of monetary contributions or a lot of other actions to happen before they can be expected to jump in - just another reason that I don't think anyone should be holding their breath and waiting for this to go to court and see what happens.
This is an issue that, if WotC wants, can take years to settle. That's the point.
Not if a motion to suppress the new OGL, or at least the deauthorization clause, is ruled on by a judge in the favor of the class filing the suit. That would be one of the very first motions and the class could definitely demonstrate irreparable harm should it be allowed to stand until a decision by the court is forthcoming, not to mention demonstrate a likelihood of winning based upon precedent with the GPL 2 license.
The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
A bit too dismissive
For now I have downgraded and may cancel but I'm unsure. I hope wisdom prevails to be honest.
Leave Foundry alone!
Both my son and I, who were Premium Tier members and owned ALL the content (some $900 worth of digital materials), cancelled our subscriptions and my wife also cancelled her free subscription. Additionally, we cancelled our Critical Role Twitch subscription, now years old, given D&D Beyond's support of the show. And, just got the confirmation that my Dragonlance pre-order was also successfully cancelled.
Essentially, if Wizards or DDB is associated with it, we're walking away.
Look at it this way. I love Salmon; we have it at least once a week in our house. But now, suddenly, the quality of the Salmon has gone down while the price has tripled. Well, like the old saying goes, 'they're always more fish in the sea (or river, to be fair)'; Tilapia, Tuna, Cod, not to mention shellfish.
Guess we're just gonna diversify our menu and give up on Salmon until the fishery is sold to someone else who cares more about serving a wide, diverse community rather than screwing everyone over for a buck. Here's the thing about that, though...if no one's there to pay the higher price, what good is it going to do you?
Granted, I'm sure they're be people who don't care; the 'filthy casuals', as I like to refer to them, who will continue to play D&D using DDB because it's easy and comfortable. These are also the people I suspect who likely use the free subscription and won't pay a dime for 'extras'. However, the ones who bought all the Source Books, Adventures, paid the Premium Tier price and all are the ones you pissed off and bailed.
Way to cut off your nose to spite your face.
Call of Cthulhu, anyone?
How about Zweihander. That's where I've migrated to. If you like CoC I think you'll like it!
It's not dismissive, it's realistic. The part I'd label as dismissive is people thinking that we're going to fix what WotC is doing by just waiting for... someone, an unknown anyone, to take them to court and get a favorable ruling. Somehow they're supposed to magically do this in record time too; forget the fact that these kinds of cases pretty much always drag on for literally years. I'm an illustrator, the number of peers I've had over the years that tried to take Hallmark or Target to court over copyright infringement are numerous, the number of those instances that were settled in under a year? Zero. Unless you count the ones where the individual artist gave up the suit.
Being right isn't enough in a court of law. It is in principle, but not in practice, or reality.
To everyone that disagrees with me; reiterate what you disagree with. Do you think that I'm just wrong, and that WotC will be taken to court and within, idk, a month or two from now we'll have a ruling on the books saying they were wrong about their ability to deauthorize the OGL? What is it specifically you think I'm wrong about? Because I don't know of any courts that move that fast for starters, least of all civil courts about IP law, just getting a court date can take years itself - especially now that they're dealing with the backlog that COVID caused - how do you see this shaking out differently? Because I'm just not sure what it is y'all even think I'm wrong about. I thought it was pretty common knowledge that the court of law in the US is slow, and it was my impression that we wanted an answer/solution to this whole OGL debacle in under 6 months. So which is it?
I've got a free account really just beacuse one of the groups I play in use it. I had been pondering getting a paid sub before all this but not now. Core 5E rulebooks aside I can't say I've been particular impressed with the WotC 5E products I've brought so far.
The very existence of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund and the very existence of Class Action Lawsuits demonstrate that you are too dismissive. I brought it up without any pretense that it would be easy. Is it viable? Perhaps. I'm not so incredibly certain of the capabilities of large groups as you appear to be. So, yes, you were too dismissive.
So in order to disassosciate with Beyond over the OGL thing you are punishing Critical Role, one of the 3rd party content creators that people are fighting the new OGL in order to protect? That may not be the most brilliant plan but I fully support your right to carry it out.