Why has it been 600 millennia since the homebrew tool got an actual update? It's an unfinished turd at this point do they ever plan on updating it or will it be this half baked nightmare forever?
I wouldn’t plan on anything before the 2024 core books are released and the builder is updated to accommodate the new class/species/backgrounds changes
And even then I wouldn’t hold my breath. It’s probably low on their priority list
That's kinda sad it's been half done for years and missing so many key features. I feel most people use this site specifically for the homebrew outside of that it has next to nothing to offer.
Why has it been 600 millennia since the homebrew tool got an actual update? It's an unfinished turd at this point do they ever plan on updating it or will it be this half baked nightmare forever?
wotc has a VTT to finish and roll out. Someone at wotc figures that is worth more money to the company than finishing projects that started long before the VTT.
Please remember that the homebrew tools are not a bespoke set of tools made for the community. They're a limited scope version of the same tools the content entry team uses to add new content to the site. That's why if it's not in a book supported by D&D Beyond, it's not a modifier in the tools.
I feel most people use this site specifically for the homebrew outside of that it has next to nothing to offer.
I disagree. The big thing this site has for it is the ability to search for things. I'll look at the homebrew for curiosity or create some things (mostly spell/item replications of official material.) But that's an annoying and clunky process.
Where it really shines is being able to "Okay I want monsters from CR 1/2 - 2 that live in a forest biome. SEARCH!" Or, for new players, making the character creation process very simple. My very first character that I created was using DDB before really knowing much of the rules. And that allowed easy entrance with a DnD group some friends started. (To which we all came onto Discord in the first session asking, "So... who's DMing?"
Getting more out of that functionality does require either money or being in a campaign with content sharing, but even without that if you use the sources filter to limit it to what's free it's an easy way of searching stuff.
Yeah you do make a very good point. I have run games for many groups and all of them have had no interest in looking for anything all of that is down to the DM most times from my experience. From the people I've talked to and those that play dnd outside of DDB they only come around for the Homebrew so they can put an indea into a somewhat formatted form for reference or to check other homebrew different people have made which still boils down to the homebrew system.
I didn't know that but it definitely clears up some things thank you. I did hear some things a good long time ago about them continuing to further the homebrew tool but I'm not sure where I heard it from exactly. Do you know if they so intend to expand on it or if they plan on overhauling it and making it a different system in general or neither? It just has so much potential and I really love making homebrew for my players but hate the hoops I have to jump through.
Maybe they should charge per homebrew item created, then there would be a funding source to help improve the tool, except I can already hear the resounding grosns and curses aimed at me for daring to even suggest such a thing, but I don't understand why there is (over time) such an outcry for something added out of the goodness of their hearts, but no one wants to pay a developer something for adding in complicated tools not used anywhere else. Until there is a way to pay for it, we should be very happy with what we do have and the wealth of knowledge on this forum from helpful people that share ways that they found to make it work. With community support it is still an amazing free toolset!!!
Maybe they should charge per homebrew item created, then there would be a funding source to help improve the tool, except I can already hear the resounding grosns and curses aimed at me for daring to even suggest such a thing, but I don't understand why there is (over time) such an outcry for something added out of the goodness of their hearts, but no one wants to pay a developer something for adding in complicated tools not used anywhere else. Until there is a way to pay for it, we should be very happy with what we do have and the wealth of knowledge on this forum from helpful people that share ways that they found to make it work. With community support it is still an amazing free toolset!!!
Bite your tongue. I already pay $60/year to use the site’s content sharing and encounter tracker. If they’re gonna start charging me per homebrew to continue to use their site that would literally price me out since I typically play in heavily homebrewed settings. Your suggestion would make the annual subscription cost here to become a fraction of my expense not including content (of which I have purchased hundreds of dollars worth).
The truth is that the “homebrewer” isn’t actually a homebrewer at all, it’s just user level access to the exact same system the developers use to implement the official and partnered content that they sell here. The truth is they should already be highly motivated to improve their own system for their own use.
Maybe they should charge per homebrew item created, then there would be a funding source to help improve the tool, except I can already hear the resounding grosns and curses aimed at me for daring to even suggest such a thing, but I don't understand why there is (over time) such an outcry for something added out of the goodness of their hearts, but no one wants to pay a developer something for adding in complicated tools not used anywhere else. Until there is a way to pay for it, we should be very happy with what we do have and the wealth of knowledge on this forum from helpful people that share ways that they found to make it work. With community support it is still an amazing free toolset!!!
Bite your tongue. I already pay $60/year to use the site’s content sharing and encounter tracker. If they’re gonna start charging me per homebrew to continue to use their site that would literally price me out since I typically play in heavily homebrewed settings. Your suggestion would make the annual subscription cost here to become a fraction of my expense not including content (of which I have purchased hundreds of dollars worth).
The truth is that the “homebrewer” isn’t actually a homebrewer at all, it’s just user level access to the exact same system the developers use to implement the official and partnered content that they sell here. The truth is they should already be highly motivated to improve their own system for their own use.
Maybe they should charge per homebrew item created, then there would be a funding source to help improve the tool, except I can already hear the resounding grosns and curses aimed at me for daring to even suggest such a thing, but I don't understand why there is (over time) such an outcry for something added out of the goodness of their hearts, but no one wants to pay a developer something for adding in complicated tools not used anywhere else. Until there is a way to pay for it, we should be very happy with what we do have and the wealth of knowledge on this forum from helpful people that share ways that they found to make it work. With community support it is still an amazing free toolset!!!
Bite your tongue. I already pay $60/year to use the site’s content sharing and encounter tracker. If they’re gonna start charging me per homebrew to continue to use their site that would literally price me out since I typically play in heavily homebrewed settings. Your suggestion would make the annual subscription cost here to become a fraction of my expense not including content (of which I have purchased hundreds of dollars worth).
The truth is that the “homebrewer” isn’t actually a homebrewer at all, it’s just user level access to the exact same system the developers use to implement the official and partnered content that they sell here. The truth is they should already be highly motivated to improve their own system for their own use.
Well said. In truth I don't want us to pay more (I've also paid this much every year since I joined as well), and I did not consider that the homebrew tools might help the developers make better official content. I succumbed temporarily to the Free-fatigue where it seems so many people want so much provided for free regardless of what the developers are already having to do. I think the original vision here was amazing, and much of it has carried over even after they were bought. I don't think that vision still aligns with having to report functionality to stockholders, but you never know, maybe someone will see the improvement of tools for both sides as a benefit for all one of these days...
Maybe they should charge per homebrew item created, then there would be a funding source to help improve the tool, except I can already hear the resounding grosns and curses aimed at me for daring to even suggest such a thing, but I don't understand why there is (over time) such an outcry for something added out of the goodness of their hearts, but no one wants to pay a developer something for adding in complicated tools not used anywhere else. Until there is a way to pay for it, we should be very happy with what we do have and the wealth of knowledge on this forum from helpful people that share ways that they found to make it work. With community support it is still an amazing free toolset!!!
Bite your tongue. I already pay $60/year to use the site’s content sharing and encounter tracker. If they’re gonna start charging me per homebrew to continue to use their site that would literally price me out since I typically play in heavily homebrewed settings. Your suggestion would make the annual subscription cost here to become a fraction of my expense not including content (of which I have purchased hundreds of dollars worth).
The truth is that the “homebrewer” isn’t actually a homebrewer at all, it’s just user level access to the exact same system the developers use to implement the official and partnered content that they sell here. The truth is they should already be highly motivated to improve their own system for their own use.
Well said. In truth I don't want us to pay more (I've also paid this much every year since I joined as well), and I did not consider that the homebrew tools might help the developers make better official content. I succumbed temporarily to the Free-fatigue where it seems so many people want so much provided for free regardless of what the developers are already having to do. I think the original vision here was amazing, and much of it has carried over even after they were bought. I don't think that vision still aligns with having to report functionality to stockholders, but you never know, maybe someone will see the improvement of tools for both sides as a benefit for all one of these days...
I hope so, because they desperately need to upgrade their content creation platform.”' If we as homebrewers keep butting up against its limitations, imagine how much more restrictive it must feel for the actual developers.
Why has it been 600 millennia since the homebrew tool got an actual update? It's an unfinished turd at this point do they ever plan on updating it or will it be this half baked nightmare forever?
I wouldn’t plan on anything before the 2024 core books are released and the builder is updated to accommodate the new class/species/backgrounds changes
And even then I wouldn’t hold my breath. It’s probably low on their priority list
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That's kinda sad it's been half done for years and missing so many key features. I feel most people use this site specifically for the homebrew outside of that it has next to nothing to offer.
wotc has a VTT to finish and roll out. Someone at wotc figures that is worth more money to the company than finishing projects that started long before the VTT.
Please remember that the homebrew tools are not a bespoke set of tools made for the community. They're a limited scope version of the same tools the content entry team uses to add new content to the site. That's why if it's not in a book supported by D&D Beyond, it's not a modifier in the tools.
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I disagree. The big thing this site has for it is the ability to search for things. I'll look at the homebrew for curiosity or create some things (mostly spell/item replications of official material.) But that's an annoying and clunky process.
Where it really shines is being able to "Okay I want monsters from CR 1/2 - 2 that live in a forest biome. SEARCH!" Or, for new players, making the character creation process very simple. My very first character that I created was using DDB before really knowing much of the rules. And that allowed easy entrance with a DnD group some friends started. (To which we all came onto Discord in the first session asking, "So... who's DMing?"
Getting more out of that functionality does require either money or being in a campaign with content sharing, but even without that if you use the sources filter to limit it to what's free it's an easy way of searching stuff.
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Yeah you do make a very good point. I have run games for many groups and all of them have had no interest in looking for anything all of that is down to the DM most times from my experience. From the people I've talked to and those that play dnd outside of DDB they only come around for the Homebrew so they can put an indea into a somewhat formatted form for reference or to check other homebrew different people have made which still boils down to the homebrew system.
I didn't know that but it definitely clears up some things thank you. I did hear some things a good long time ago about them continuing to further the homebrew tool but I'm not sure where I heard it from exactly. Do you know if they so intend to expand on it or if they plan on overhauling it and making it a different system in general or neither? It just has so much potential and I really love making homebrew for my players but hate the hoops I have to jump through.
Maybe they should charge per homebrew item created, then there would be a funding source to help improve the tool, except I can already hear the resounding grosns and curses aimed at me for daring to even suggest such a thing, but I don't understand why there is (over time) such an outcry for something added out of the goodness of their hearts, but no one wants to pay a developer something for adding in complicated tools not used anywhere else. Until there is a way to pay for it, we should be very happy with what we do have and the wealth of knowledge on this forum from helpful people that share ways that they found to make it work. With community support it is still an amazing free toolset!!!
Bite your tongue. I already pay $60/year to use the site’s content sharing and encounter tracker. If they’re gonna start charging me per homebrew to continue to use their site that would literally price me out since I typically play in heavily homebrewed settings. Your suggestion would make the annual subscription cost here to become a fraction of my expense not including content (of which I have purchased hundreds of dollars worth).
The truth is that the “homebrewer” isn’t actually a homebrewer at all, it’s just user level access to the exact same system the developers use to implement the official and partnered content that they sell here. The truth is they should already be highly motivated to improve their own system for their own use.
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
Well said. In truth I don't want us to pay more (I've also paid this much every year since I joined as well), and I did not consider that the homebrew tools might help the developers make better official content. I succumbed temporarily to the Free-fatigue where it seems so many people want so much provided for free regardless of what the developers are already having to do. I think the original vision here was amazing, and much of it has carried over even after they were bought. I don't think that vision still aligns with having to report functionality to stockholders, but you never know, maybe someone will see the improvement of tools for both sides as a benefit for all one of these days...
I hope so, because they desperately need to upgrade their content creation platform.”' If we as homebrewers keep butting up against its limitations, imagine how much more restrictive it must feel for the actual developers.
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