*Of course, like all previous versions, it will still exist. I'm talking about them maintaining an active online portal for the 2014 version of the game.
As am I, I bought it and if the they still have a site I should be able to use what I bought. Especially if there are no new editions and this is, as they are claiming, "One D&D".
I mean... if they do decide to keep supporting/onboarding 2014 content to/with their tools, great. But you did both agree that they could unilaterally modify or discontinue any part of the service as well by using it (purchasing books, posting here etc) too.
sounds like every other corp "pay us and you own nothing get over it" tho with all the talk they have been saying that 5E and 5.5E will be backwards compatible i dont see why they would stop saying it now. nothing wrong with stronger characters
sounds like every other corp "pay us and you own nothing get over it" tho with all the talk they have been saying that 5E and 5.5E will be backwards compatible i dont see why they would stop saying it now. nothing wrong with stronger characters
1) You don't have to pay them 😛 You can even play 5.5e without paying them a cent, if you don't mind waiting a bit longer than the rest ifor the Basic/SRD update.
2) The game being backwards compatible doesn't mean the website and its tools have to be. The game itself, ultimately, is a book.
WHy the 2 months gap between each books release?...
Whats the logic behind it?...
Easier on physical logistics chains, gives people who can't afford to drop a billion dollars all at once for the new book set a chance to stagger their payments. Gives each book a spot in the limelight, rather than all three fighting with each other. A number of reasons, most of which deal with marketing.
If you can't afford it, then don't buy it...
Are people like crack addicts willing to sell their firstborn child to buy books or something?...
As a DM i WANT all 3 books in my hands asap so that i can run the game smoothly for my players without having to wait on the new stuff and then mid-game switch stuff cause now the new book is here...
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Logistics chains is by far the dominant factor. Printing and selling millions of books is no easy feat. It's far easier to print the PHB, get them shipped out to customers to create space, then print the DMG etc. Otherwise, you'll have warehouses full of PHBs (and later DMGs) doing nothing but sitting there doing nothing but being eaten by rats while they get the MMs ready. Warehouses that have to be built from scratch because there's not really any other use for them. That makes it incredibly expensive.- to the point they probably wouldn't bother doing the books at all.
Affordability is just an added bonus.
There's plenty of time to run Light of Xaryxes using 2014e, then just switch over when the campaign ends.
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Logistics chains is by far the dominant factor. Printing and selling millions of books is no easy feat. It's far easier to print the PHB, get them shipped out to customers to create space, then print the DMG etc. Otherwise, you'll have warehouses full of PHBs (and later DMGs) doing nothing but sitting there doing nothing but being eaten by rats while they get the MMs ready. Warehouses that have to be built from scratch because there's not really any other use for them. That makes it incredibly expensive.- to the point they probably wouldn't bother doing the books at all.
Also, all the parts of book production before the printer take time. Layout, copyediting, poofreading, waiting on those last late pieces of art, etc. Trying to push all three books at once through their production department would strain their capacity, and would probably lead to all of them getting less attention than they need.
Logistics chains is by far the dominant factor. Printing and selling millions of books is no easy feat. It's far easier to print the PHB, get them shipped out to customers to create space, then print the DMG etc. Otherwise, you'll have warehouses full of PHBs (and later DMGs) doing nothing but sitting there doing nothing but being eaten by rats while they get the MMs ready. Warehouses that have to be built from scratch because there's not really any other use for them. That makes it incredibly expensive.- to the point they probably wouldn't bother doing the books at all.
Affordability is just an added bonus.
There's plenty of time to run Light of Xaryxes using 2014e, then just switch over when the campaign ends.
You know what would have helped with this? Hasbro not dumping Penguin Ranodm House....
So here's my question. Almost every other entity that offers a pre-order does so with tangible benefits (not cosmetics). $50 for a hard-copy player's guide is acceptable for a brand new book, but I have no incentive to pre-order it because you're still not giving the digital copies for free with the physical books. Also, every other TTRPG maker provides a searchable PDF copy of their book with a digital or physical order, what's the excuse for you not doing that?
You want more pre-orders? Make the physical digital bundle the same price as the physical only copy of the book. Also add a searchable PDF version for people who don't use D&D beyond and want a digital reference format. If you do this, I'm probably pre-ordering immediately. If you don't do this, I can just use unearthed Arcana to get most of the content in this new book anyway.
If you're worried about piracy, not providing a PDF won't stop that; people will just make PDF copies and upload them. They'll suck because they're not searchable, but at least they're a non-D&D beyond digital reference.
Logistics chains is by far the dominant factor. Printing and selling millions of books is no easy feat. It's far easier to print the PHB, get them shipped out to customers to create space, then print the DMG etc. Otherwise, you'll have warehouses full of PHBs (and later DMGs) doing nothing but sitting there doing nothing but being eaten by rats while they get the MMs ready. Warehouses that have to be built from scratch because there's not really any other use for them. That makes it incredibly expensive.- to the point they probably wouldn't bother doing the books at all.
Affordability is just an added bonus.
There's plenty of time to run Light of Xaryxes using 2014e, then just switch over when the campaign ends.
You know what would have helped with this? Hasbro not dumping Penguin Ranodm House....
Hasbro have their own logistics operations.
But neither Hasbro nor PRH are set up for individual-scale fulfillment. They're set up for selling to retailers. (PRH actually sells to book distributors who sell to retailers.)
And neither one can make the limitations on production go away. This is almost certainly the biggest book launch ever for D&D. The audience is much larger than it was when 5e launched. Three thick, large-size books, with full-color art, with initial print runs conservatively in the hundreds of thousands.
That's going to saturate the available printer capacity. As mentioned upthread, no D&D except 4e (IIRC) has ever shipped the core books simultaneously.
Logistics chains is by far the dominant factor. Printing and selling millions of books is no easy feat. It's far easier to print the PHB, get them shipped out to customers to create space, then print the DMG etc. Otherwise, you'll have warehouses full of PHBs (and later DMGs) doing nothing but sitting there doing nothing but being eaten by rats while they get the MMs ready. Warehouses that have to be built from scratch because there's not really any other use for them. That makes it incredibly expensive.- to the point they probably wouldn't bother doing the books at all.
Affordability is just an added bonus.
There's plenty of time to run Light of Xaryxes using 2014e, then just switch over when the campaign ends.
You know what would have helped with this? Hasbro not dumping Penguin Ranodm House....
Hasbro have their own logistics operations.
But neither Hasbro nor PRH are set up for individual-scale fulfillment. They're set up for selling to retailers. (PRH actually sells to book distributors who sell to retailers.)
And neither one can make the limitations on production go away. This is almost certainly the biggest book launch ever for D&D. The audience is much larger than it was when 5e launched. Three thick, large-size books, with full-color art, with initial print runs conservatively in the hundreds of thousands.
That's going to saturate the available printer capacity. As mentioned upthread, no D&D except 4e (IIRC) has ever shipped the core books simultaneously.
Random Penguin wouldn't be able to do any better.
this first book is going to determine if alot of people get the others (for me at least) Tho besides the changes to paladin (which IMO are pretty trash) the other stuff they have done pretty good with tho alot of it (besides classes) was just homebrewed stuff at alot of tables
So here's my question. Almost every other entity that offers a pre-order does so with tangible benefits (not cosmetics). $50 for a hard-copy player's guide is acceptable for a brand new book, but I have no incentive to pre-order it because you're still not giving the digital copies for free with the physical books. Also, every other TTRPG maker provides a searchable PDF copy of their book with a digital or physical order, what's the excuse for you not doing that?
You want more pre-orders? Make the physical digital bundle the same price as the physical only copy of the book. Also add a searchable PDF version for people who don't use D&D beyond and want a digital reference format. If you do this, I'm probably pre-ordering immediately. If you don't do this, I can just use unearthed Arcana to get most of the content in this new book anyway.
If you're worried about piracy, not providing a PDF won't stop that; people will just make PDF copies and upload them. They'll suck because they're not searchable, but at least they're a non-D&D beyond digital reference.
There's a real cost associated with building this website, creating the content here for use in games, managing the data, etc. Wizards neglected that with 5e at its inception and then realized that by having D&D Beyond as an in house tool, they could finally do bundles. Prior to Wizards owning D&D Beyond, the digital version of a book was(and still is) 30, with no option for bundling. Now, you can buy the physical book for 50 and the digital for 10. There is tangible cost savings. Hell, the books in 2024 cost the same as their 2014 counterparts. Considering how insane inflation has been in the last 10 years? I was expecting them to increase in price to offset, and yet here we are.
D&D Beyond provides a searchable database with the purchase of their content that expands as you own more content. I'll concede that search isn't good, but it's there. The PDFs aren't offered because by not doing it, it makes it just a smidge harder to pirate and that barrier is all it takes to convert potential pirates to customers.
All in, you aren't the person that Wizards is trying to convert. What Wizards is trying to do is convince the people who were hardcover only to spend the extra 10 bucks to also get the content on D&D Beyond. They want the people who were digital only to go "Well, for 30 extra I can get the book instead of 50".
So here's my question. Almost every other entity that offers a pre-order does so with tangible benefits (not cosmetics). $50 for a hard-copy player's guide is acceptable for a brand new book, but I have no incentive to pre-order it because you're still not giving the digital copies for free with the physical books. Also, every other TTRPG maker provides a searchable PDF copy of their book with a digital or physical order, what's the excuse for you not doing that?
You want more pre-orders? Make the physical digital bundle the same price as the physical only copy of the book. Also add a searchable PDF version for people who don't use D&D beyond and want a digital reference format. If you do this, I'm probably pre-ordering immediately. If you don't do this, I can just use unearthed Arcana to get most of the content in this new book anyway.
If you're worried about piracy, not providing a PDF won't stop that; people will just make PDF copies and upload them. They'll suck because they're not searchable, but at least they're a non-D&D beyond digital reference.
There's a real cost associated with building this website, creating the content here for use in games, managing the data, etc. Wizards neglected that with 5e at its inception and then realized that by having D&D Beyond as an in house tool, they could finally do bundles. Prior to Wizards owning D&D Beyond, the digital version of a book was(and still is) 30, with no option for bundling. Now, you can buy the physical book for 50 and the digital for 10. There is tangible cost savings. Hell, the books in 2024 cost the same as their 2014 counterparts. Considering how insane inflation has been in the last 10 years? I was expecting them to increase in price to offset, and yet here we are.
D&D Beyond provides a searchable database with the purchase of their content that expands as you own more content. I'll concede that search isn't good, but it's there. The PDFs aren't offered because by not doing it, it makes it just a smidge harder to pirate and that barrier is all it takes to convert potential pirates to customers.
All in, you aren't the person that Wizards is trying to convert. What Wizards is trying to do is convince the people who were hardcover only to spend the extra 10 bucks to also get the content on D&D Beyond. They want the people who were digital only to go "Well, for 30 extra I can get the book instead of 50".
The thing I hope they are keeping in mind is the opportunity costs of trying to go after that other market you are referring to. They have to manage that without alienating their existing customer base in any ways that cost them more than they are gaining.
So here's my question. Almost every other entity that offers a pre-order does so with tangible benefits (not cosmetics). $50 for a hard-copy player's guide is acceptable for a brand new book, but I have no incentive to pre-order it because you're still not giving the digital copies for free with the physical books. Also, every other TTRPG maker provides a searchable PDF copy of their book with a digital or physical order, what's the excuse for you not doing that?
You want more pre-orders? Make the physical digital bundle the same price as the physical only copy of the book. Also add a searchable PDF version for people who don't use D&D beyond and want a digital reference format. If you do this, I'm probably pre-ordering immediately. If you don't do this, I can just use unearthed Arcana to get most of the content in this new book anyway.
If you're worried about piracy, not providing a PDF won't stop that; people will just make PDF copies and upload them. They'll suck because they're not searchable, but at least they're a non-D&D beyond digital reference.
There's a real cost associated with building this website, creating the content here for use in games, managing the data, etc. Wizards neglected that with 5e at its inception and then realized that by having D&D Beyond as an in house tool, they could finally do bundles. Prior to Wizards owning D&D Beyond, the digital version of a book was(and still is) 30, with no option for bundling. Now, you can buy the physical book for 50 and the digital for 10. There is tangible cost savings. Hell, the books in 2024 cost the same as their 2014 counterparts. Considering how insane inflation has been in the last 10 years? I was expecting them to increase in price to offset, and yet here we are.
D&D Beyond provides a searchable database with the purchase of their content that expands as you own more content. I'll concede that search isn't good, but it's there. The PDFs aren't offered because by not doing it, it makes it just a smidge harder to pirate and that barrier is all it takes to convert potential pirates to customers.
All in, you aren't the person that Wizards is trying to convert. What Wizards is trying to do is convince the people who were hardcover only to spend the extra 10 bucks to also get the content on D&D Beyond. They want the people who were digital only to go "Well, for 30 extra I can get the book instead of 50".
The thing I hope they are keeping in mind is the opportunity costs of trying to go after that other market you are referring to. They have to manage that without alienating their existing customer base in any ways that cost them more than they are gaining.
They did alienate the piece-mail market, and that was likely a support issue. Having to support tickets and service requests from someone who doesn't own the entire pizza of the PHB but instead a pepperoni or a slice is troublesome. Having to support the internal workings of the system on that is troublesome. This negates that.
The only way you negate digital only buyers is buy raising the price of the digital only product. Physical only buyers are paying the same. Combo buyers are now getting discounts. Legendary Bundle owners get the same digital discount they've gotten and a deeper discount if they go to physical/digital.
Honestly, the market they are screwing over is game stores and then of course their actual competition in Roll20/FantasyGrounds. Wizards is actively trying to cut the middle man out of the equation on this. They are throwing the FLGS a bone with Alt Covers, but those stores make far more money on Magic than they do D&D. Roll20/FantasyGrounds are next because the bundle means you can get content on the Virtual Table Top(which is still ongoing, as you can see the pre-order bonus for the PHB includes a gold dragon mini for use on the VTT) for 10 dollars if you bundle physical/digital. FantasyGrounds/Roll20 have no way to offer that same type of discount, so it'll drive people to D&D Beyond simply on virtue of money as most DMs are going the route of buying both physical/digital. Digital for the toolset use, physical for personal reference.
All of that isn't the current D&D Beyond base though, which is the key.
When will Physical copies be available for (pre) order to outside US locations e.g. Europe?
For me thats one pie of information that is needed to be known but not available right now.
by the way i mean englisch language versions. i do not need translations.
You can pre-order them right now.
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When will Physical copies be available for (pre) order to outside US locations e.g. Europe?
For me thats one pie of information that is needed to be known but not available right now.
by the way i mean englisch language versions. i do not need translations.
Every manner of preorder went live worldwide last week, June 18th.
Speaking as a former game store retail worker, individual stores choose when they're going to say "yes, you can preorder", which is dependent on when they order their stock so they know how many preorders they can initially take. That might not match with when Wizards gave the green light.
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When will Physical copies be available for (pre) order to outside US locations e.g. Europe?
For me thats one pie of information that is needed to be known but not available right now.
by the way i mean englisch language versions. i do not need translations.
Every manner of preorder went live worldwide last week, June 18th.
Speaking as a former game store retail worker, individual stores choose when they're going to say "yes, you can preorder", which is dependent on when they order their stock so they know how many preorders they can initially take. That might not match with when Wizards gave the green light.
Hi,
could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US?
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? From the digital bundle page it appears to be so, but elsewhere there seems to be the implication that they only apply to a physical+digital bundle.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply?
Thanks in advance for any clarification that you can provide.
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When will Physical copies be available for (pre) order to outside US locations e.g. Europe?
For me thats one pie of information that is needed to be known but not available right now.
by the way i mean englisch language versions. i do not need translations.
Every manner of preorder went live worldwide last week, June 18th.
Speaking as a former game store retail worker, individual stores choose when they're going to say "yes, you can preorder", which is dependent on when they order their stock so they know how many preorders they can initially take. That might not match with when Wizards gave the green light.
Hi,
could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US?
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? From the digital bundle page it appears to be so, but elsewhere there seems to be the implication that they only apply to a physical+digital bundle.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply?
Thanks in advance for any clarification that you can provide.
could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US? Sure!
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? Yes, and we've made it clearer for you to understand exactly what you get when you preorder. You can take a look at the DDB Marketplace pages to see what you get with each bundle. The UK and EU stores will be updating their pages soon.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply? Yes!
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When will Physical copies be available for (pre) order to outside US locations e.g. Europe?
For me thats one pie of information that is needed to be known but not available right now.
by the way i mean englisch language versions. i do not need translations.
Every manner of preorder went live worldwide last week, June 18th.
Speaking as a former game store retail worker, individual stores choose when they're going to say "yes, you can preorder", which is dependent on when they order their stock so they know how many preorders they can initially take. That might not match with when Wizards gave the green light.
Hi,
could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US?
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? From the digital bundle page it appears to be so, but elsewhere there seems to be the implication that they only apply to a physical+digital bundle.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply?
Thanks in advance for any clarification that you can provide.
could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US? Sure!
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? Yes, and we've made it clearer for you to understand exactly what you get when you preorder. You can take a look at the DDB Marketplace pages to see what you get with each bundle. The UK and EU stores will be updating their pages soon.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply? Yes!
Thanks for the very detailed answer, I appreciate it!
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in the meantime ordering the preorder bundle was possible. Where prior only us states were chooseable in the marketplace now also a non us option pops up. Thanks a lot.
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sounds like every other corp "pay us and you own nothing get over it" tho with all the talk they have been saying that 5E and 5.5E will be backwards compatible i dont see why they would stop saying it now. nothing wrong with stronger characters
1) You don't have to pay them 😛 You can even play 5.5e without paying them a cent, if you don't mind waiting a bit longer than the rest ifor the Basic/SRD update.
2) The game being backwards compatible doesn't mean the website and its tools have to be. The game itself, ultimately, is a book.
It is loss of trust and lack of communication that ends relationships, legal and right are not mutually inclusive.
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If you can't afford it, then don't buy it...
Are people like crack addicts willing to sell their firstborn child to buy books or something?...
As a DM i WANT all 3 books in my hands asap so that i can run the game smoothly for my players without having to wait on the new stuff and then mid-game switch stuff cause now the new book is here...
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Logistics chains is by far the dominant factor. Printing and selling millions of books is no easy feat. It's far easier to print the PHB, get them shipped out to customers to create space, then print the DMG etc. Otherwise, you'll have warehouses full of PHBs (and later DMGs) doing nothing but sitting there doing nothing but being eaten by rats while they get the MMs ready. Warehouses that have to be built from scratch because there's not really any other use for them. That makes it incredibly expensive.- to the point they probably wouldn't bother doing the books at all.
Affordability is just an added bonus.
There's plenty of time to run Light of Xaryxes using 2014e, then just switch over when the campaign ends.
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Also, all the parts of book production before the printer take time. Layout, copyediting, poofreading, waiting on those last late pieces of art, etc. Trying to push all three books at once through their production department would strain their capacity, and would probably lead to all of them getting less attention than they need.
You know what would have helped with this? Hasbro not dumping Penguin Ranodm House....
So here's my question. Almost every other entity that offers a pre-order does so with tangible benefits (not cosmetics). $50 for a hard-copy player's guide is acceptable for a brand new book, but I have no incentive to pre-order it because you're still not giving the digital copies for free with the physical books. Also, every other TTRPG maker provides a searchable PDF copy of their book with a digital or physical order, what's the excuse for you not doing that?
You want more pre-orders? Make the physical digital bundle the same price as the physical only copy of the book. Also add a searchable PDF version for people who don't use D&D beyond and want a digital reference format. If you do this, I'm probably pre-ordering immediately. If you don't do this, I can just use unearthed Arcana to get most of the content in this new book anyway.
If you're worried about piracy, not providing a PDF won't stop that; people will just make PDF copies and upload them. They'll suck because they're not searchable, but at least they're a non-D&D beyond digital reference.
Hasbro have their own logistics operations.
But neither Hasbro nor PRH are set up for individual-scale fulfillment. They're set up for selling to retailers. (PRH actually sells to book distributors who sell to retailers.)
And neither one can make the limitations on production go away. This is almost certainly the biggest book launch ever for D&D. The audience is much larger than it was when 5e launched. Three thick, large-size books, with full-color art, with initial print runs conservatively in the hundreds of thousands.
That's going to saturate the available printer capacity. As mentioned upthread, no D&D except 4e (IIRC) has ever shipped the core books simultaneously.
Random Penguin wouldn't be able to do any better.
this first book is going to determine if alot of people get the others (for me at least) Tho besides the changes to paladin (which IMO are pretty trash) the other stuff they have done pretty good with tho alot of it (besides classes) was just homebrewed stuff at alot of tables
There's a real cost associated with building this website, creating the content here for use in games, managing the data, etc. Wizards neglected that with 5e at its inception and then realized that by having D&D Beyond as an in house tool, they could finally do bundles. Prior to Wizards owning D&D Beyond, the digital version of a book was(and still is) 30, with no option for bundling. Now, you can buy the physical book for 50 and the digital for 10. There is tangible cost savings. Hell, the books in 2024 cost the same as their 2014 counterparts. Considering how insane inflation has been in the last 10 years? I was expecting them to increase in price to offset, and yet here we are.
D&D Beyond provides a searchable database with the purchase of their content that expands as you own more content. I'll concede that search isn't good, but it's there. The PDFs aren't offered because by not doing it, it makes it just a smidge harder to pirate and that barrier is all it takes to convert potential pirates to customers.
All in, you aren't the person that Wizards is trying to convert. What Wizards is trying to do is convince the people who were hardcover only to spend the extra 10 bucks to also get the content on D&D Beyond. They want the people who were digital only to go "Well, for 30 extra I can get the book instead of 50".
The thing I hope they are keeping in mind is the opportunity costs of trying to go after that other market you are referring to. They have to manage that without alienating their existing customer base in any ways that cost them more than they are gaining.
They did alienate the piece-mail market, and that was likely a support issue. Having to support tickets and service requests from someone who doesn't own the entire pizza of the PHB but instead a pepperoni or a slice is troublesome. Having to support the internal workings of the system on that is troublesome. This negates that.
The only way you negate digital only buyers is buy raising the price of the digital only product. Physical only buyers are paying the same. Combo buyers are now getting discounts. Legendary Bundle owners get the same digital discount they've gotten and a deeper discount if they go to physical/digital.
Honestly, the market they are screwing over is game stores and then of course their actual competition in Roll20/FantasyGrounds. Wizards is actively trying to cut the middle man out of the equation on this. They are throwing the FLGS a bone with Alt Covers, but those stores make far more money on Magic than they do D&D. Roll20/FantasyGrounds are next because the bundle means you can get content on the Virtual Table Top(which is still ongoing, as you can see the pre-order bonus for the PHB includes a gold dragon mini for use on the VTT) for 10 dollars if you bundle physical/digital. FantasyGrounds/Roll20 have no way to offer that same type of discount, so it'll drive people to D&D Beyond simply on virtue of money as most DMs are going the route of buying both physical/digital. Digital for the toolset use, physical for personal reference.
All of that isn't the current D&D Beyond base though, which is the key.
When will Physical copies be available for (pre) order to outside US locations e.g. Europe?
For me thats one pie of information that is needed to be known but not available right now.
by the way i mean englisch language versions. i do not need translations.
You can pre-order them right now.
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Speaking as a former game store retail worker, individual stores choose when they're going to say "yes, you can preorder", which is dependent on when they order their stock so they know how many preorders they can initially take. That might not match with when Wizards gave the green light.
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Hi,
could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US?
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? From the digital bundle page it appears to be so, but elsewhere there seems to be the implication that they only apply to a physical+digital bundle.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply?
Thanks in advance for any clarification that you can provide.
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could we get some clarifications about preorders from outside the US? Sure!
If one orders a digital bundle do the preorder perks apply? Yes, and we've made it clearer for you to understand exactly what you get when you preorder. You can take a look at the DDB Marketplace pages to see what you get with each bundle. The UK and EU stores will be updating their pages soon.
If one orders the three separate digital+physical bundles for each of the three books from the EU or UK store, would the perks apply? Yes!
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Thanks for the very detailed answer, I appreciate it!
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in the meantime ordering the preorder bundle was possible. Where prior only us states were chooseable in the marketplace now also a non us option pops up. Thanks a lot.