In most of the campaigns I've played nobody gave a flying **** about a tiefling - it was just another in a diverse range of humanoids, no big deal. A person was a person, the race irrelevant.
I've only played in one campaign where Tieflings got stares and mistrust - but then this is where there was a non-stop ongoing war with fiends (both types) who were constantly trying to invade and massacre everyone. Even then it was just minor mistrust that had no big impact.
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To have characters different from each other, that can have different cultures and idioms as well as better expression for some part of the player. And, of course, different mechanical bonuses to play with as well. A person who likes horns can be a Tiefling, the person who likes cats can be Tabaxi, etc. There are many reasons of racial choice.
Also going to note my comments are also about NPCs as well as player races.
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To have characters different from each other, that can have different cultures and idioms as well as better expression for some part of the player. And, of course, different mechanical bonuses to play with as well. A person who likes horns can be a Tiefling, the person who likes cats can be Tabaxi, etc. There are many reasons of racial choice.
That doesn't sound to me like "race is irrelevant." But maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by "relevant."
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To have characters different from each other, that can have different cultures and idioms as well as better expression for some part of the player. And, of course, different mechanical bonuses to play with as well. A person who likes horns can be a Tiefling, the person who likes cats can be Tabaxi, etc. There are many reasons of racial choice.
That doesn't sound to me like "race is irrelevant." But maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by "relevant."
Sorry for word choice, it seemed faster than saying "in these campaigns races are not for the purposes of illogical unfounded discrimination, it's just what you're born as and how we treat each other is better to be based on who you are not what you are".
When I said irrelevant, I meant irrelevant in the topic of discrimination that is the main topic of this thread (the discrimination tieflings get in Forgotten Realms setting). I'm just bringing up the subject that not everyone plays in Forgotten Realms or carries over the (immensely ****tarded) idea that you get to be discrminated against (passively by stares and whispers - which can get to you, as I know from experience, or actively in speech/actions of NPCs or even other players) for what you're born as.
Some of us like making campaigns where that discrimination just doesn't exist at all, because for some it's a nice break from what they already get in the real world.
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Who doesn't want to play as a race that can be any color you want and has a bunch of cool customizable physical and magical features? There's no pre-made culture either, so you can just throw random ideas together and go wild during char creation.
Not to mention that the +2 Cha is very useful for several classes, which beckons people to make tiefling warlocks, sorcerers and bards. (I've found that especially with point buy you really want a bonus in your main stat to not suck.)
The discrimination really depends on your setting and DM. I asked mine about it and he told me to decide for myself if my char has suffered discrimination in her life or not and that most places are probably fine with tieflings. So far there was no problem with our party getting accepted everywhere, even though we have 2 tieflings. ^^
Some of us like making campaigns where that discrimination just doesn't exist at all, because for some it's a nice break from what they already get in the real world.
This, too.
You could also argue against discrimination based on how many different races are running around in a Dnd world. Can you really afford not getting along with your neighbours and co-workers just because they are a different race than you?
To have characters different from each other, that can have different cultures and idioms as well as better expression for some part of the player. And, of course, different mechanical bonuses to play with as well. A person who likes horns can be a Tiefling, the person who likes cats can be Tabaxi, etc. There are many reasons of racial choice.
That doesn't sound to me like "race is irrelevant." But maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by "relevant."
Race is/should be irrelevant in the real world.
Race is relevant in D&D for character making.
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You could also argue against discrimination based on how many different races are running around in a Dnd world. Can you really afford not getting along with your neighbours and co-workers just because they are a different race than you?
But if everyone just "gets along" what is the basis for drama? Ordinarily, conflict is what creates drama. A world without conflict is a world without drama.
I prefer my RPGs to have some dramatic stuff going on in them... but that's me.
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You could also argue against discrimination based on how many different races are running around in a Dnd world. Can you really afford not getting along with your neighbours and co-workers just because they are a different race than you?
But if everyone just "gets along" what is the basis for drama? Ordinarily, conflict is what creates drama. A world without conflict is a world without drama.
I prefer my RPGs to have some dramatic stuff going on in them... but that's me.
You don't need racism to incite drama. There's politics, religion in general, apocalypses of mundane and magical varieties... Racism does not HAVE to be a driving force of drama in your fantasy RPG.
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Fair enough.
This is all very campaign specific.
In most of the campaigns I've played nobody gave a flying **** about a tiefling - it was just another in a diverse range of humanoids, no big deal. A person was a person, the race irrelevant.
I've only played in one campaign where Tieflings got stares and mistrust - but then this is where there was a non-stop ongoing war with fiends (both types) who were constantly trying to invade and massacre everyone. Even then it was just minor mistrust that had no big impact.
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Then why even have races?
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
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To have characters different from each other, that can have different cultures and idioms as well as better expression for some part of the player. And, of course, different mechanical bonuses to play with as well. A person who likes horns can be a Tiefling, the person who likes cats can be Tabaxi, etc. There are many reasons of racial choice.
Also going to note my comments are also about NPCs as well as player races.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
That doesn't sound to me like "race is irrelevant." But maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by "relevant."
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
Sorry for word choice, it seemed faster than saying "in these campaigns races are not for the purposes of illogical unfounded discrimination, it's just what you're born as and how we treat each other is better to be based on who you are not what you are".
When I said irrelevant, I meant irrelevant in the topic of discrimination that is the main topic of this thread (the discrimination tieflings get in Forgotten Realms setting). I'm just bringing up the subject that not everyone plays in Forgotten Realms or carries over the (immensely ****tarded) idea that you get to be discrminated against (passively by stares and whispers - which can get to you, as I know from experience, or actively in speech/actions of NPCs or even other players) for what you're born as.
Some of us like making campaigns where that discrimination just doesn't exist at all, because for some it's a nice break from what they already get in the real world.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
Who doesn't want to play as a race that can be any color you want and has a bunch of cool customizable physical and magical features? There's no pre-made culture either, so you can just throw random ideas together and go wild during char creation.
Not to mention that the +2 Cha is very useful for several classes, which beckons people to make tiefling warlocks, sorcerers and bards. (I've found that especially with point buy you really want a bonus in your main stat to not suck.)
The discrimination really depends on your setting and DM. I asked mine about it and he told me to decide for myself if my char has suffered discrimination in her life or not and that most places are probably fine with tieflings. So far there was no problem with our party getting accepted everywhere, even though we have 2 tieflings. ^^
Race is/should be irrelevant in the real world.
Race is relevant in D&D for character making.
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But if everyone just "gets along" what is the basis for drama? Ordinarily, conflict is what creates drama. A world without conflict is a world without drama.
I prefer my RPGs to have some dramatic stuff going on in them... but that's me.
WOTC lies. We know that WOTC lies. WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. We know that WOTC knows that we know that WOTC lies. And still they lie.
Because of the above (a paraphrase from Orwell) I no longer post to the forums -- PM me if you need help or anything.
You don't need racism to incite drama. There's politics, religion in general, apocalypses of mundane and magical varieties... Racism does not HAVE to be a driving force of drama in your fantasy RPG.
Formerly Devan Avalon.
Trying to get your physical content on Beyond is like going to Microsoft and saying "I have a physical Playstation disk, give me a digital Xbox version!"