Maginio moves up to the central area, looking for a fight.
(Maginio and Vurnic, just a heads up you will not be able to use the right hand teleporter until Throst has left the right side room or been knocked out there)
(Vurnic is up)
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Key: '|', '=' Stone wall (to ceiling), '$' Tree, '%' Door, '.' Stone floor, '×' water (15 ft deep), '-' Destructible wall (15 ft tall), '~' Teleporter, 'A-Z' Contestants
(Sleep was cast centered on the wall between H8 and I8 and affects creatures within 20 ft of that point and makes no requirement on LoS. You're about 3.5-4 squares away, so just within range of the spell)
Creatures within 20 feet of a point you choose within range are affected in ascending order of their current hit points (ignoring unconscious creatures)
(It doesn't make any mention of being able to see the creature or walls blocking it, so yes)
(All aoe spells require line of sight from the origin to a potential target)
A spell's effect expands in straight lines from the point of origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area of effect, that location isn't included in the spell's area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover, as explained in chapter 9.
(Sorry Persuasion, LAST CHALLENGE. PHB, pg. 204 A spell’s effect expands in straight lines from the point o f origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area o f effect, that location isn’t included in the spell’s area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover, as explained in chapter 9. )Put your spoiler here.
My Argument Sir DM is that Swigg has total cover behind the wall. Does he not? He is also small which should aid in that factor as well.
(Ok, my three braincells have finally decided that Swigg will not be affected by sleep. My main confusion comes from the fact that sleep's description doesn't utilize the normal spell shapes of AoE spells. It implies that sleep effects a 20ft radius sphere, but doesn't mention either radius or sphere explicitly whereas a spell like fireball and most AoE spells fall into one of the categories described in the rulebook. I'm just going to call this dumb semantics because I have a tendency to over-complicate issues like this. I will be giving Maginio his action and second level spell slot back, since he wouldn't have been able to see anyone within LoS and so would not have casted sleep).
(And yes, Denka is with Swigg and Scarab vs Maginio, Vurnic, and Throst [me, but not at level 20])
(The most recently posted map is still accurate, Maginio and Vurnic are up, Maginio you are currently standing at I10 and have regained a 2nd level spell slot by the virtue of DM Vult)
(Ok, my three braincells have finally decided that Swigg will not be affected by sleep. My main confusion comes from the fact that sleep's description doesn't utilize the normal spell shapes of AoE spells. It implies that sleep effects a 20ft radius sphere, but doesn't mention either radius or sphere explicitly whereas a spell like fireball and most AoE spells fall into one of the categories described in the rulebook. I'm just going to call this dumb semantics because I have a tendency to over-complicate issues like this. I will be giving Maginio his action and second level spell slot back, since he wouldn't have been able to see anyone within LoS and so would not have casted sleep).
(And yes, Denka is with Swigg and Scarab vs Maginio, Vurnic, and Throst [me, but not at level 20])
(The most recently posted map is still accurate, Maginio and Vurnic are up, Maginio you are currently standing at I10 and have regained a 2nd level spell slot by the virtue of DM Vult)
(It's a 20 foot sphere. And Maginio doesn't haev to see the target, he just has to see where he's casting the spell. There hsa to be LoS from the origin of the spell (wherever he cast it) to the target. So he could hit someone on the other side of a wall as long as he has line of sight on a spot to cast the spell that can get to a target. So if you had a 90 degree bend in a hall for instance with one player on each side of the bend, you coudl cast a sleep spell in the corner of the bend to hit someone on the other side if they're within 20 feet, even if you can't actually see them)
(The sphere icon on D&DBeyond is a thing that they [whoever wrote up the spell list] came up with, in the PHB that small icon doesn't exist. Only in the spell description is it determined whether or not the spell is a sphere or whatnot. Yes, you don't need LoS on the target to use sleep on them so long as there exists LoS between the point and the target, but from both the map and from where Maginio was standing he would have had no reason to cast sleep since no one was visible to him, which is why I'm giving him his action and spell slot back)
(@Brian_Avery yes but the rules also state that for most AoE spells to work you must be able to draw a straight line from the source of the spell [in this case the point targeted by Maginio] and a potential target of the spell.
A spell's effect expands in straight lines from the point of origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area of effect, that location isn't included in the spell's area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover.
Sleep itself is a bit of a headache since spells like fireball explicitly say that "creatures in a 20 foot radius sphere" are affected whereas sleep only states that "creatures within 20 feet of a point you choose" are affected. My ruling here is that the distinction is minor and that sleep is going to act more or less like fireball, but since there was some confusion I am reimbursing Maginio)
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(Yes great game everyone.)
Talmich Goodstone (2W-1L)Runthiel Steelfist (0W 0L)
Level-4: (Round 3)
Gell tries tries to make sure Nara doesn't get back into this fight, but he's distracted as the flag lights with his colors. He fails to harm her.
Sarah on the other hand, moves with grace speed and accuracy. She looses a single arrow that may very well take Hammerstone out of the fight.
(Hammerstone. Nara is unconscious.)
Arena 5: Labyrinth
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Key: '#' Hedges, '=' High wall (8ft.), '€' Tree, '%' Door, '.' Grass, 'A-Z' Contestants
( L S vs. N H )
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Extended Signature
(Can I get a re roll on the second potion of healing greater?)
(and the potion of fire breath?)
Tomb Round 2:
Swigg slumps to the ground, asleep.
Maginio moves up to the central area, looking for a fight.
(Maginio and Vurnic, just a heads up you will not be able to use the right hand teleporter until Throst has left the right side room or been knocked out there)
(Vurnic is up)
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P
16 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Key: '|', '=' Stone wall (to ceiling), '$' Tree, '%' Door, '.' Stone floor, '×' water (15 ft deep), '-' Destructible wall (15 ft tall), '~' Teleporter, 'A-Z' Contestants
Wait, how does the sleep reach me at L 8? Also the door is closed.
I got alot a doods
One of Raebite's healing potions become a Potion of Fire Breath then becomes instead, a Potion of Force Resistance.
Extended Signature
(Sleep was cast centered on the wall between H8 and I8 and affects creatures within 20 ft of that point and makes no requirement on LoS. You're about 3.5-4 squares away, so just within range of the spell)
Does it just go through walls then?
I got alot a doods
(It doesn't make any mention of being able to see the creature or walls blocking it, so yes)
(I will abuse that in the future thanks.)
I got alot a doods
(All aoe spells require line of sight from the origin to a potential target)
A spell's effect expands in straight lines from the point of origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area of effect, that location isn't included in the spell's area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover, as explained in chapter 9.
Quick question because I maybe have missed it. Is Denka on a team? And if so who is on her team?
(Sorry Persuasion, LAST CHALLENGE. PHB, pg. 204 A spell’s effect expands in straight lines from the point o f origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area o f effect, that location isn’t included in the spell’s area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover, as explained in chapter 9. )Put your spoiler here.
My Argument Sir DM is that Swigg has total cover behind the wall. Does he not? He is also small which should aid in that factor as well.
I got alot a doods
(Thank you @VanderLegion we had the same thought)
I got alot a doods
Hey @Feral_Robot, Denka is on Swigg's team.
I got alot a doods
(Ok, my three braincells have finally decided that Swigg will not be affected by sleep. My main confusion comes from the fact that sleep's description doesn't utilize the normal spell shapes of AoE spells. It implies that sleep effects a 20ft radius sphere, but doesn't mention either radius or sphere explicitly whereas a spell like fireball and most AoE spells fall into one of the categories described in the rulebook. I'm just going to call this dumb semantics because I have a tendency to over-complicate issues like this. I will be giving Maginio his action and second level spell slot back, since he wouldn't have been able to see anyone within LoS and so would not have casted sleep).
(And yes, Denka is with Swigg and Scarab vs Maginio, Vurnic, and Throst [me, but not at level 20])
(The most recently posted map is still accurate, Maginio and Vurnic are up, Maginio you are currently standing at I10 and have regained a 2nd level spell slot by the virtue of DM Vult)
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(It's a 20 foot sphere. And Maginio doesn't haev to see the target, he just has to see where he's casting the spell. There hsa to be LoS from the origin of the spell (wherever he cast it) to the target. So he could hit someone on the other side of a wall as long as he has line of sight on a spot to cast the spell that can get to a target. So if you had a 90 degree bend in a hall for instance with one player on each side of the bend, you coudl cast a sleep spell in the corner of the bend to hit someone on the other side if they're within 20 feet, even if you can't actually see them)
(The sphere icon on D&DBeyond is a thing that they [whoever wrote up the spell list] came up with, in the PHB that small icon doesn't exist. Only in the spell description is it determined whether or not the spell is a sphere or whatnot. Yes, you don't need LoS on the target to use sleep on them so long as there exists LoS between the point and the target, but from both the map and from where Maginio was standing he would have had no reason to cast sleep since no one was visible to him, which is why I'm giving him his action and spell slot back)
(@Brian_Avery yes but the rules also state that for most AoE spells to work you must be able to draw a straight line from the source of the spell [in this case the point targeted by Maginio] and a potential target of the spell.
A spell's effect expands in straight lines from the point of origin. If no unblocked straight line extends from the point of origin to a location within the area of effect, that location isn't included in the spell's area. To block one of these imaginary lines, an obstruction must provide total cover.
Sleep itself is a bit of a headache since spells like fireball explicitly say that "creatures in a 20 foot radius sphere" are affected whereas sleep only states that "creatures within 20 feet of a point you choose" are affected. My ruling here is that the distinction is minor and that sleep is going to act more or less like fireball, but since there was some confusion I am reimbursing Maginio)