The ranged attack rolls get disadvantage in melee. That's mean that first of all to get disadvantage It has to be an attack not just a spell, and also It has to be ranged. But here is the question. What define "ranged" a spell? Things like burning hands for example has an aoe farther then 5 feet but still not so much..because the max range is 15 feet. So that's mean that to properly cast it you should cast it exactly between 5 and 15 feet to avoid the disadvantage? It seem to be pretty silly to me..And what about things on reaction like hellish rebuke? You can use It if someone attack you, that's thing that most likely can happen in melee range. Do you suffer disadvantage here to? Again, It sound very silly.
Also another thing to clarify: The caster isn't subject to an opportunity attack when he cast a spell in melee range right? Not in 5e if i understand correctly
First, it isn't that ranged attack have disadvantage on target enemy within 5 feet, ranged attacks have disadvantage if any enemy is within 5 feet.
Second, ranged attack has a very specific rules definition, it is not just damage dealt at range. Save spells like burning hands and hellish rebuke are not attacks. Attacks roll a d20 against AC to hit.
Second, ranged attack has a very specific rules definition, it is not just damage dealt at range. Save spells like burning hands and hellish rebuke are not attacks. Attacks roll a d20 against AC to hit.
Ok thank you. Damn, i've been so stupid, how can there be a disadvantage without a hit roll 😅. I'm sorry, so dumb.. Now this is more clear but the question remain, what define an attack spell "ranged" can you make some example pls? There Is a list or something to look for in the description of a spell to understand that?
Opportunity attacks are only generated if a creature moves of its own accord beyond the melee attack range of another creature. Opportunity attacks are not triggered by spellcasting.
Ranged spell attacks are defined as spells that tell you to “make a ranged spell attack” in their description. fire bolt is an example
Ranged spell attacks are defined as spells that tell you to “make a ranged spell attack” in their description. fire bolt is an example
This.
And what about opportunity attacks? They don't really pertain to the subject since they must be melee weapon attacks (unless you have war caster in which case it follows the same rules of casting a spell we already covered).
Ranged spell attacks are defined as spells that tell you to “make a ranged spell attack” in their description. fire bolt is an example
This.
And what about opportunity attacks? They don't really pertain to the subject since they must be melee weapon attacks (unless you have war caster in which case it follows the same rules of casting a spell we already covered).
I think he may be asking about an older mechanic where spellcasting could trigger opportunity attacks...I know it’s present in pathfinder/starfinder and may have been in older D&D editions too
Ranged spell attacks are defined as spells that tell you to “make a ranged spell attack” in their description. fire bolt is an example
This.
And what about opportunity attacks? They don't really pertain to the subject since they must be melee weapon attacks (unless you have war caster in which case it follows the same rules of casting a spell we already covered).
I think he may be asking about an older mechanic where spellcasting could trigger opportunity attacks...I know it’s present in pathfinder/starfinder and may have been in older D&D editions too
Eldritch blast, which bolt. You have to roll to hit and there are no saves.
Yes.
And?
This 2+ year old thread was about how ranged attacks like these have disadvantage if an enemy is within 5 feet and how it doesn't apply to spells that require saves without attacking like not these. Do you have something relevant to add or a relevant question?
Just take Crosdbow expert, as it clearly states: "Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged attack rolls." RAW.
The ranged attack rolls get disadvantage in melee. That's mean that first of all to get disadvantage It has to be an attack not just a spell, and also It has to be ranged. But here is the question. What define "ranged" a spell? Things like burning hands for example has an aoe farther then 5 feet but still not so much..because the max range is 15 feet. So that's mean that to properly cast it you should cast it exactly between 5 and 15 feet to avoid the disadvantage? It seem to be pretty silly to me..And what about things on reaction like hellish rebuke? You can use It if someone attack you, that's thing that most likely can happen in melee range. Do you suffer disadvantage here to? Again, It sound very silly.
Also another thing to clarify: The caster isn't subject to an opportunity attack when he cast a spell in melee range right? Not in 5e if i understand correctly
First, it isn't that ranged attack have disadvantage on target enemy within 5 feet, ranged attacks have disadvantage if any enemy is within 5 feet.
Second, ranged attack has a very specific rules definition, it is not just damage dealt at range. Save spells like burning hands and hellish rebuke are not attacks. Attacks roll a d20 against AC to hit.
Ok thank you. Damn, i've been so stupid, how can there be a disadvantage without a hit roll 😅. I'm sorry, so dumb.. Now this is more clear but the question remain, what define an attack spell "ranged" can you make some example pls? There Is a list or something to look for in the description of a spell to understand that?
And what about the opportunity Attack?
Opportunity attacks are only generated if a creature moves of its own accord beyond the melee attack range of another creature. Opportunity attacks are not triggered by spellcasting.
Ranged spell attacks are defined as spells that tell you to “make a ranged spell attack” in their description. fire bolt is an example
This.
And what about opportunity attacks? They don't really pertain to the subject since they must be melee weapon attacks (unless you have war caster in which case it follows the same rules of casting a spell we already covered).
I think he may be asking about an older mechanic where spellcasting could trigger opportunity attacks...I know it’s present in pathfinder/starfinder and may have been in older D&D editions too
Exactly, that's what i meant. Thx a lot everybody
There is a feat Mage Slayer, which grants a kind of opportunity attack against a creature that casts a spell.
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Eldritch blast, which bolt. You have to roll to hit and there are no saves.
Yes.
And?
This 2+ year old thread was about how ranged attacks like these have disadvantage if an enemy is within 5 feet and how it doesn't apply to spells that require saves without attacking like not these. Do you have something relevant to add or a relevant question?
Just take Crosdbow expert, as it clearly states: "Being within 5 feet of a hostile creature doesn't impose disadvantage on your ranged attack rolls." RAW.