So, if I had a 9ft tall golith, and my wizard cast Enlarge/Reduce on him, What would happen? The spell says that he would double in size, which would make him 18ft tall and huge, but the spell also says that he increases by 1 size category.
Second question. One of my players is using the old warforged and is a juggernaut. He weighs 500lbs. If Enlarge/Reduce was cast on him, he would weigh 2 tons. How much damage would that do if he decided to sit on a goblin?
Edit: I would have the goblin make a dex save, or have my player make an attack roll, but just wondering how much damage yalls think makes sense.
Goliaths, while tall, are still medium-sized creatures. So it's ok to have a nine foot tall goliath if you want, but keep in mind they are still medium-sized so if you enlarge them, they become large sized. You're free to say they are now 18 feet tall, but the important part is the size category. Compare that with a stone giant who is also about 18-20 feet tall on average and is a huge creature. For storytelling purposes, it may not be a big deal.
With Sposta, wouldn't allow them to squeeze out more damage than they could do with normal attacks. And if they are given 2 tons of damage, then they should constantly be doing damage to the ground all the time while that size, like what ought to happen to wooden floors when shatter is cast over it.
The kid's gloves were definitely put on this spell. If wielding a weapon eight times normal size only yields a 1d4 of extra damage then, damage was not the intent of this spell. If you wanted a solid case for argument about weight damage, I would look at a Hill Giant Variant's Squash ability.
The kid's gloves were definitely put on this spell. If wielding a weapon eight times normal size only yields a 1d4 of extra damage then, damage was not the intent of this spell. If you wanted a solid case for argument about weight damage, I would look at a Hill Giant Variant's Squash ability.
In anticipation of the people who will inevitably point out “The spell says it doubles your size, double does not equal 8 times the size.” I encourage them to research something called the Cube-Square Law.
In anticipation of the people who will inevitably point out “The spell says it doubles your size, double does not equal 8 times the size.” I encourage them to research something called the Cube-Square Law.
You're making me want to play devil's advocate... 'cus, you know, doubling size is the same as twice the size or is two times bigger, thus making the quote a correct statement, that something that is doubled is 8 times the volume and weight. Without specifying volume or weight, it is misleading to say the sword is 8 times the size.
Then again, if a 4' sword is twice as long as a 2' one, one would reasonably say it's twice the size of the smaller. If one were to say "Well, I have one that is 8 times the size of that smaller one!", everyone would be expecting a 16' sword that would be 4 times the size of the 4' sword, not a thicker and wider 4' sword- which ironically could be reasonably said to be twice as big as the 4' sword, while being 4 times heavier and in volume. Size, unfortunately, can refer to a single dimension and multiple dimensions.
Vishnu would proudly mislead a scholar into saying he could lift a rock 10 times the size of another and wager a kingdom on it, only to pick one up that looks about twice the size of it and then explain that he meant by volume.
In anticipation of the people who will inevitably point out “The spell says it doubles your size, double does not equal 8 times the size.” I encourage them to research something called the Cube-Square Law.
Size, unfortunately, can refer to a single dimension and multiple dimensions.
Only if the object in question has a single dimension(unlikely). For a 3D item, I would not say twice the size when I meant twice the length, for example.
In anticipation of the people who will inevitably point out “The spell says it doubles your size, double does not equal 8 times the size.” I encourage them to research something called the Cube-Square Law.
Size, unfortunately, can refer to a single dimension and multiple dimensions.
Only if the object in question has a single dimension(unlikely). For a 3D item, I would not say twice the size when I meant twice the length, for example.
So, if I had a 9ft tall golith, and my wizard cast Enlarge/Reduce on him, What would happen? The spell says that he would double in size, which would make him 18ft tall and huge, but the spell also says that he increases by 1 size category.
Second question. One of my players is using the old warforged and is a juggernaut. He weighs 500lbs. If Enlarge/Reduce was cast on him, he would weigh 2 tons. How much damage would that do if he decided to sit on a goblin?
Edit: I would have the goblin make a dex save, or have my player make an attack roll, but just wondering how much damage yalls think makes sense.
When the DM smiles, it is already to late.
Goliaths, while tall, are still medium-sized creatures. So it's ok to have a nine foot tall goliath if you want, but keep in mind they are still medium-sized so if you enlarge them, they become large sized. You're free to say they are now 18 feet tall, but the important part is the size category. Compare that with a stone giant who is also about 18-20 feet tall on average and is a huge creature. For storytelling purposes, it may not be a big deal.
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There aren’t any rules for sitting on people, regardless of weight. It’d be up to the DM to adjudicate the situation ad hoc.
Technically sitting on a goblin would constitute an unarmed strike, so 1+Str+1d4 for being Enlarged.
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Reread the spell, retracting the comment
According to the size chart, goliaths top out at a little under 8 feet tall. So... Either way, it just does what the spell says.
Looking at the improvised damage table, 2 tons might be 4d10 damage.
With Sposta, wouldn't allow them to squeeze out more damage than they could do with normal attacks. And if they are given 2 tons of damage, then they should constantly be doing damage to the ground all the time while that size, like what ought to happen to wooden floors when shatter is cast over it.
The kid's gloves were definitely put on this spell. If wielding a weapon eight times normal size only yields a 1d4 of extra damage then, damage was not the intent of this spell. If you wanted a solid case for argument about weight damage, I would look at a Hill Giant Variant's Squash ability.
In anticipation of the people who will inevitably point out “The spell says it doubles your size, double does not equal 8 times the size.” I encourage them to research something called the Cube-Square Law.
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You're making me want to play devil's advocate... 'cus, you know, doubling size is the same as twice the size or is two times bigger, thus making the quote a correct statement, that something that is doubled is 8 times the volume and weight. Without specifying volume or weight, it is misleading to say the sword is 8 times the size.
Then again, if a 4' sword is twice as long as a 2' one, one would reasonably say it's twice the size of the smaller. If one were to say "Well, I have one that is 8 times the size of that smaller one!", everyone would be expecting a 16' sword that would be 4 times the size of the 4' sword, not a thicker and wider 4' sword- which ironically could be reasonably said to be twice as big as the 4' sword, while being 4 times heavier and in volume. Size, unfortunately, can refer to a single dimension and multiple dimensions.
Vishnu would proudly mislead a scholar into saying he could lift a rock 10 times the size of another and wager a kingdom on it, only to pick one up that looks about twice the size of it and then explain that he meant by volume.
I bet we all know what Wtfdndad meant. Hopefully.
Only if the object in question has a single dimension(unlikely). For a 3D item, I would not say twice the size when I meant twice the length, for example.
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Though something with a remarkably larger single dimension, like a wand or train, would pass in reference to that dimension when speaking of size.