As the title asks, in game you have the chance to tame and ride a dragon into combat. With this in mind, what race and class do you choose? What general tactics do you employ? What color dragon do you tame? Are you a master wizard who uses their magic to enhance their dragon or a champion blades man who fights with them to over power any foe?
Cavalier fighter has some nice ribbon abilities for being mounted. And fighters get enough feats that mounted combatant might actually be be worth taking in this case.
Elf Abjuration Wizard would work pretty well, especially if you're high enough level to cast simulacrum. Now you have two red/gold dragons!
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You do. It's called "Indoctrination", but really the same principle as taming, only applied to sapients. We just use the different word to denounce that it's morally wrong to do it to people as opposed to animals, same as with eugenics vs selection which are also the same shit if you drop the question of morality.
I also think you wouldn't tame a dragon, but persuade it to work with you for a specific purpose, unless you have the means to Charm the Dragon. So I would add that the most persuasive alignment/class combination would be Lawful (Good or Evil) Paladin. The dragon would need to know that in this relationship you are going to uphold your end of the bargain.
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You do. It's called "Indoctrination", but really the same principle as taming, only applied to sapients. We just use the different word to denounce that it's morally wrong to do it to people as opposed to animals, same as with eugenics vs selection which are also the same shit if you drop the question of morality.
"Taming" implies domesticating the wild or feral. Indoctrination is a type of convincing.
With the exception of White wyrmiling, who have a childlike INT of 5, I wouldn't consider and dragon wyrmling "wild" or "feral".
Not really. It's a type of conditioning, through the system of reward and punishment, which exactly how you tame animals. People could be indoctrinated into anything without ever trying to convince them of anything, as long as you ca control and hurt them, and I don't see how dragons are any better, aside from how much more difficult is to control or hurt them.
As the title asks, in game you have the chance to tame and ride a dragon into combat. With this in mind, what race and class do you choose? What general tactics do you employ? What color dragon do you tame? Are you a master wizard who uses their magic to enhance their dragon or a champion blades man who fights with them to over power any foe?
Hard to answer without knowing how the DM is going to handle it. Dragons are sentient, which in 5e means they will have their own initiative. So playing as a melee heavy character, like a Cavalier fighter, might be problematic. For example: The dragon flies to an enemy, attacks, then flies away at initiative 20. Your PC has initiative 10. Unless you had an attack with your melee weapon readied, you don't get an attack that round. So really, the best class is going to be anything with range, be it a spellcaster or archer-type martial character.
The UA Drakewarden that ratthatwouldbeking linked to is the only way to sync up initiative with a sentient creature. If your DM gives you this ability for free, it opens up more possibilities on what classes would work
My character is a LVL-3 half-elf druid(circle of the moon) and my alignment is Chaotic-evil (should i change this?). my DM has just given us an encounter with a black wyermling summoned by cultists, the main cultist that summoned the dragon has been killed and the dragon began circling over-head basically because it couldn't find 'mommy'. My DM is quite annoyed about the fact that, even though he himself has experience playing as druids, he over-looked that i may be able to steal and mount his dragon. His exact words were,'you are not going to steal my F****** dragon! If you do, i'm going to kill you'.
i want to mess with him, so how would i go about doing this?
what spells or wild shapes or anything really could i use to acheive this goal?
perhaps 'speaking with animals' or 'animal friendship' spell cast at 2nd LVL?
Anyone that really rides a dragon into combat needs to be a ranged fighter. A dragon trained for combat should never be less than 40 ft from the ground, and usually at around 80. It's breath is 60 ft and it can wait out the recharge while you rain down death from above. Even without the breath, adult tail often has 15 ft reach, easy enough for them to fly down, make a single tail attack and then retreat up. Not to mention if the dragon itself is a spellcaster.
Melee fighters would have no chance against them and if you are riding it, chances are it is one target against two spellcasters.
Anyone that really rides a dragon into combat needs to be a ranged fighter. A dragon trained for combat should never be less than 40 ft from the ground, and usually at around 80. It's breath is 60 ft and it can wait out the recharge while you rain down death from above. Even without the breath, adult tail often has 15 ft reach, easy enough for them to fly down, make a single tail attack and then retreat up. Not to mention if the dragon itself is a spellcaster.
Melee fighters would have no chance against them and if you are riding it, chances are it is one target against two spellcasters.
With this in mind, my answer is kensei monk with a longbow. Others will do more damage, but at some point, likely multiple points, you are going to fall and while a caster could feather fall, that leaves you kinda stuck until you hit the ground.
Wizard of course. Fly within 1 mile, spot the enemy, meteor swarm. Invisibility on the dragon, get off it, it goes in to mop up whatever is left. Job done?
As the title asks, in game you have the chance to tame and ride a dragon into combat. With this in mind, what race and class do you choose? What general tactics do you employ? What color dragon do you tame? Are you a master wizard who uses their magic to enhance their dragon or a champion blades man who fights with them to over power any foe?
Ranger Beastmaster, who decided they didn't like their beast, and instead fed it to a dragon
Cavalier fighter has some nice ribbon abilities for being mounted. And fighters get enough feats that mounted combatant might actually be be worth taking in this case.
Yep, cavalier for sure. What's cooler than a knight who jousts from a dragon's back?
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Elf Abjuration Wizard would work pretty well, especially if you're high enough level to cast simulacrum. Now you have two red/gold dragons!
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I've just got to ask. How do you "tame" a sentient creature?
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You don’t tame a sapient being. You convince it.
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You do. It's called "Indoctrination", but really the same principle as taming, only applied to sapients. We just use the different word to denounce that it's morally wrong to do it to people as opposed to animals, same as with eugenics vs selection which are also the same shit if you drop the question of morality.
I also think you wouldn't tame a dragon, but persuade it to work with you for a specific purpose, unless you have the means to Charm the Dragon. So I would add that the most persuasive alignment/class combination would be Lawful (Good or Evil) Paladin. The dragon would need to know that in this relationship you are going to uphold your end of the bargain.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt
"Taming" implies domesticating the wild or feral. Indoctrination is a type of convincing.
With the exception of White wyrmiling, who have a childlike INT of 5, I wouldn't consider and dragon wyrmling "wild" or "feral".
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Not really. It's a type of conditioning, through the system of reward and punishment, which exactly how you tame animals. People could be indoctrinated into anything without ever trying to convince them of anything, as long as you ca control and hurt them, and I don't see how dragons are any better, aside from how much more difficult is to control or hurt them.
Hard to answer without knowing how the DM is going to handle it. Dragons are sentient, which in 5e means they will have their own initiative. So playing as a melee heavy character, like a Cavalier fighter, might be problematic. For example: The dragon flies to an enemy, attacks, then flies away at initiative 20. Your PC has initiative 10. Unless you had an attack with your melee weapon readied, you don't get an attack that round. So really, the best class is going to be anything with range, be it a spellcaster or archer-type martial character.
The UA Drakewarden that ratthatwouldbeking linked to is the only way to sync up initiative with a sentient creature. If your DM gives you this ability for free, it opens up more possibilities on what classes would work
My character is a LVL-3 half-elf druid(circle of the moon) and my alignment is Chaotic-evil (should i change this?). my DM has just given us an encounter with a black wyermling summoned by cultists, the main cultist that summoned the dragon has been killed and the dragon began circling over-head basically because it couldn't find 'mommy'. My DM is quite annoyed about the fact that, even though he himself has experience playing as druids, he over-looked that i may be able to steal and mount his dragon. His exact words were, 'you are not going to steal my F****** dragon! If you do, i'm going to kill you'.
i want to mess with him, so how would i go about doing this?
what spells or wild shapes or anything really could i use to acheive this goal?
perhaps 'speaking with animals' or 'animal friendship' spell cast at 2nd LVL?
Dragons are not beasts, so speak with animals and animal friendship have no effect. All wild shape can do is turn yourself into bait.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Anyone that really rides a dragon into combat needs to be a ranged fighter. A dragon trained for combat should never be less than 40 ft from the ground, and usually at around 80. It's breath is 60 ft and it can wait out the recharge while you rain down death from above. Even without the breath, adult tail often has 15 ft reach, easy enough for them to fly down, make a single tail attack and then retreat up. Not to mention if the dragon itself is a spellcaster.
Melee fighters would have no chance against them and if you are riding it, chances are it is one target against two spellcasters.
With this in mind, my answer is kensei monk with a longbow. Others will do more damage, but at some point, likely multiple points, you are going to fall and while a caster could feather fall, that leaves you kinda stuck until you hit the ground.
Wizard of course. Fly within 1 mile, spot the enemy, meteor swarm. Invisibility on the dragon, get off it, it goes in to mop up whatever is left. Job done?