LotR. That’s the most I can say rn. I know I haven’t been on pretty much at all. I’m really sorry about that but I’ve been really busy irl. School stuff and girl stuff mostly. Hopefully I can be on more soon but I really miss this stuff.
Lucky you. We're going into another semi lockdown where I am so rl/social stuff/girl stuff/etc is completely nonexistent for me.
Darn! Least you can still play D&D. And do social/girl stuff online.
LotR. That’s the most I can say rn. I know I haven’t been on pretty much at all. I’m really sorry about that but I’ve been really busy irl. School stuff and girl stuff mostly. Hopefully I can be on more soon but I really miss this stuff.
Lucky you. We're going into another semi lockdown where I am so rl/social stuff/girl stuff/etc is completely nonexistent for me.
Darn! Least you can still play D&D. And do social/girl stuff online.
Hey guys, who is even in the LotR tavern anymore? Gradius and Ghost have sort of temporarily left, so as far as I know it’s just me, Penelope, and Yamana.
Hey guys, who is even in the LotR tavern anymore? Gradius and Ghost have sort of temporarily left, so as far as I know it’s just me, Penelope, and Yamana.
Hey guys, who is even in the LotR tavern anymore? Gradius and Ghost have sort of temporarily left, so as far as I know it’s just me, Penelope, and Yamana.
I just had a thought, since I'm shopping around for a fresh set of the LOTR books- in what format did you first encounter the books themselves? I first read them in mass market paperback form. My copy was one of the Ballantine ones with Tolkien's own watercolors on the cover but it fell apart midway through the Council of Elrond. I mean the spine literally split right there in that chapter. My copy of Two Towers held fast and my copy of ROTK was one of the movie-branded ones published when Fellowship was in theaters.
So, did you have...
A trilogy of mass market, trade paperbacks, or hardbacks? Or perhaps an all in one of one of the above? Or perhaps you're even living in the future and read it as an ebook.
My first experience with LotR was with the Ballantine copies as well! They were my dad's copies from when he was younger and he passed them along to me. They fortunately survived my first reading though, sadly are no longer really intact--forty years of hard use is not great for a paperback.
I've got the huge 50th anniversary edition, all in one. (It's also a little chewed by my dog.)
My Grandpa gave me my set of hardbacks from when he was a kid. They’ve got these cool maps of middle earth inside with the full journey of the characters marked out. I also just got this book of original sketches for LotR by Alan Lee for Christmas.
I just had a thought, since I'm shopping around for a fresh set of the LOTR books- in what format did you first encounter the books themselves? I first read them in mass market paperback form. My copy was one of the Ballantine ones with Tolkien's own watercolors on the cover but it fell apart midway through the Council of Elrond. I mean the spine literally split right there in that chapter. My copy of Two Towers held fast and my copy of ROTK was one of the movie-branded ones published when Fellowship was in theaters.
So, did you have...
A trilogy of mass market, trade paperbacks, or hardbacks? Or perhaps an all in one of one of the above? Or perhaps you're even living in the future and read it as an ebook.
My first experience with LotR was with the Ballantine copies as well! They were my dad's copies from when he was younger and he passed them along to me. They fortunately survived my first reading though, sadly are no longer really intact--forty years of hard use is not great for a paperback.
I've got the huge 50th anniversary edition, all in one. (It's also a little chewed by my dog.)
My Grandpa gave me my set of hardbacks from when he was a kid. They’ve got these cool maps of middle earth inside with the full journey of the characters marked out. I also just got this book of original sketches for LotR by Alan Lee for Christmas.
Nice!!! That sounds really useful to have the journey of the Fellowship all mapped out.
Happy New Year everyone! Given how dark the past two years have been, here's a photo of one of my favorite passages in the entire series. Remember, no matter how dark things might get, the darkness cannot conquer for ever.
Happy New Year everyone! Given how dark the past two years have been, here's a photo of one of my favorite passages in the entire series. Remember, no matter how dark things might get, the darkness cannot conquer for ever.
Happy New Year everyone! Given how dark the past two years have been, here's a photo of one of my favorite passages in the entire series. Remember, no matter how dark things might get, the darkness cannot conquer for ever.
If Gandalf 1v1ed Sauron at the end of LotR like everyone wanted, who would have won? Assume that Gandalf can use his full powers, like with the Balrog.
If Gandalf 1v1ed Sauron at the end of LotR like everyone wanted, who would have won? Assume that Gandalf can use his full powers, like with the Balrog.
I have never heard of anyone actually wanting this--it simply would not work with the story's narrative or themes.
That said, treating this as an academic exercise, the novels are quiet clear that Gandalf is not only weaker than Sauron, but that the gap in power between Sauron and Gandalf is so overwhelming that it terrifies Gandalf. Recall, Sauron's power so great that Gandalf did not wish to even touch the One Ring out of fear Sauron's overwhelming power would lead him into temptation. I believe Gandalf makes a number of comments about how they could not hope to stand before Sauron himself in combat, even in his weakened state without the One Ring.
However, I think the best evidence we have for the differential in power level is Saruman. Saruman was the most powerful member of the Istari, and even he became corrupted and overwhelmed through contact with Sauron's superior might. Given that Gandalf the White returns not to exceed Saruman in power, but to become that which Saruman should have been, we can safely assume that the returned Gandalf's full strength is, at best, only as strong as Saruman ever was. Gandalf might have a stronger heart and be less susceptible to corruption than the former, but there is no reason to suspect his power exceeds that of Saruman, and thus it can be concluded that Gandalf the White's power is but a shadow of even the weakened Sauron.
As a bit of a tangent, this reminds me a tad of the ending of Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, a 2004 video game that utilized Final Fantasy gameplay and followed a group of people who themselves were following shortly behind the party. It was kind of a dumb premise for a game, but it really went off the deep end at the end of the story. After completing your shadow of and occasional involvement (often nonsensically) in the major events of the story, you somehow teleport to the top of Barad-dûr for a completely random fight against Sauron. It is, without a doubt, the single dumbest ending to any video game I have ever played.
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Darn! Least you can still play D&D. And do social/girl stuff online.
Yeah true.
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Hey guys, who is even in the LotR tavern anymore? Gradius and Ghost have sort of temporarily left, so as far as I know it’s just me, Penelope, and Yamana.
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Member of the Cult of Cats, High Elf of the Elven Guild, and Sauce Priest & Sauce Smith of the Supreme Court of Sauce.
If you want some casual roleplay/adventures in Middle Earth, check out The Wild's Edge Tavern, a LotR/Middle Earth tavern!
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I’m only kinda there. You mean the Wild’s Edge?
Yup.
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My Grandpa gave me my set of hardbacks from when he was a kid. They’ve got these cool maps of middle earth inside with the full journey of the characters marked out. I also just got this book of original sketches for LotR by Alan Lee for Christmas.
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Nice!!! That sounds really useful to have the journey of the Fellowship all mapped out.
Happy New Year everyone! Given how dark the past two years have been, here's a photo of one of my favorite passages in the entire series. Remember, no matter how dark things might get, the darkness cannot conquer for ever.
Beautiful ❤️
Love it.
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If Gandalf 1v1ed Sauron at the end of LotR like everyone wanted, who would have won? Assume that Gandalf can use his full powers, like with the Balrog.
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Not sure cause they are so closely matched
I have never heard of anyone actually wanting this--it simply would not work with the story's narrative or themes.
That said, treating this as an academic exercise, the novels are quiet clear that Gandalf is not only weaker than Sauron, but that the gap in power between Sauron and Gandalf is so overwhelming that it terrifies Gandalf. Recall, Sauron's power so great that Gandalf did not wish to even touch the One Ring out of fear Sauron's overwhelming power would lead him into temptation. I believe Gandalf makes a number of comments about how they could not hope to stand before Sauron himself in combat, even in his weakened state without the One Ring.
However, I think the best evidence we have for the differential in power level is Saruman. Saruman was the most powerful member of the Istari, and even he became corrupted and overwhelmed through contact with Sauron's superior might. Given that Gandalf the White returns not to exceed Saruman in power, but to become that which Saruman should have been, we can safely assume that the returned Gandalf's full strength is, at best, only as strong as Saruman ever was. Gandalf might have a stronger heart and be less susceptible to corruption than the former, but there is no reason to suspect his power exceeds that of Saruman, and thus it can be concluded that Gandalf the White's power is but a shadow of even the weakened Sauron.
As a bit of a tangent, this reminds me a tad of the ending of Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, a 2004 video game that utilized Final Fantasy gameplay and followed a group of people who themselves were following shortly behind the party. It was kind of a dumb premise for a game, but it really went off the deep end at the end of the story. After completing your shadow of and occasional involvement (often nonsensically) in the major events of the story, you somehow teleport to the top of Barad-dûr for a completely random fight against Sauron. It is, without a doubt, the single dumbest ending to any video game I have ever played.