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Defeated is a harsh word since the creature needs to be friendly or charmed by you. Most monstrosities won't be friendly to start.

 

 

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 allow me to introduce my +5 carisma charecter

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If I had one I would name it Dwayne Johnson

*moana flashback itensifies* 

how can u tame them? could a fifth level character tame one?

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how can u tame them? could a fifth level character tame one? 

 

 there is no concrete rules put in place for taming animals, if you want to tame them that is something your DM will have to try and figure out how to do. It will likely take a lot of time, gold and resources and might however have to involve raising one from birth seeing as to how fiercely independent adult Rocs tend to be (but that is just my personal call as a DM)

As for if a 5th level character could do it the answer is defenetly no for several reasons:

1. the roc could easily kill you, while you in contrast are not able to easily excert your influence over a roc with neither spell nor abillity, it's saving throw modifiers are too high 
2. your skill modifiers would probably be way too low to reliably suceed on such a difficult task
3. having one in your party at such a low level is going to break the game balance (rocs are CR 11, meaning that it is meant to be an fair fight for a group of four 11th level characters)

that is not to say it is theoretically impossible for an entire 5th level party working together to bring down a roc and tame it, just that there would be extreme difficulties in doing so. If you want one, talk to your DM and see if it is possible to have such an event incorperated into the campaign. Maybe your party gets a roc egg as a reward for completing a difficult adventure and is able to hatch it into a "juvenile roc" or something, using the stat block for a Giant Eagle to represent the child before it grows into an adult maybe. There should be a solution here that your group finds satisfying

Doesn't Beast Bond only work on beasts? This is a monstrosity. 

Man. Can't wait for my players to fight "Dwayne" The Roc "Johnson" tonight. 

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Should be beasts 

Beasts are nonhumanoid creatures that are a natural part of the fantasy ecology. Some of them have magical powers, but most are unintelligent and lack any society or language. Beasts include all varieties of ordinary animals, dinosaurs, and giant versions of animals. 

Monstrosities are monsters in the strictest sensefrightening creatures that are not ordinary, not truly natural, and almost never benign. Some are the results of magical experimentation gone awry (such as owl bears), and others ,are the product-of terrible curses (including minotaurs and yuan-ti). They defy categorization, and in some sense serve as a catch-all category for creatures that don't fit into any other type.

 

I’ll let you do what you want with this information, but weren’t Rocs created by storm and cloud giants? I think that alone classifies them as monstrosities.

 They were created by the giant gods, if I remember correctly. Still definitely monstrosities, though.

Just remember that Storm Giants ride these things.

A glacial blue hawk of monstrous proportions flings itself skyward, instantly blending into the grey background.  Its piercing call the only indication it is still present.  DC 24 perception to notice.

This can easily kill a lvl 11 player. The roc flies down, attacks the player with bite and talons, dealing about 50 dmg, then on its next turn flies straight up 120 ft, uses its action to attack again, dealing another 50 dmg, then drops the player dealing 42 (12d6) bludgeoning dmg, dealing a total of around 142 dmg. The avg hp for a lvl 11 fighter is 114, which would be dead in two rounds.

That spell does not work on Roc since it is not a beast. It is a monstrosity. Only spells that affect/target unclassified creatures work on it.

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Funny Thing, it can be defeated  by a 1th level spell (Beast bond).

 That spell does not work on Roc since it is not a beast. It is a monstrosity. Only spells that affect/target unclassified creatures work on it.

GUESS WHAT, I GOT ONE AND IT'S CALLED DWAYNE :D

"Should be beasts"
I absolutely agree. D&D has a real issue in delineating between beasts and monstrosities; in a magical world, the distinction for creatures of animal intelligence and disposition that are part of the regular ecology is arbitrary. 

I also agree.  They always were Beasts/Animals, all the way up through 4th edition.

  make a little tent on its back if they are so big, traveling in style 

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If I had one I would name it Dwayne Johnson.

 

 

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 Ok that's it, I'm adding one of these to a campaign JUST for that reason. 

Absolutely!

True Polymorph reads, "If you turn a creature into another kind of creature, the new form can be any kind you choose whose challenge rating is equal to or less than the target’s" The Roc is a creature with a CR of 11 and by the time you're able to cast True Polymorph you're already level 17, far above the CR limit for the spell. Enjoy the 120ft fly speed! If you get the chance have another caster in the party haste you. 120 fly speed x2 for 240. Move for 240, action dash for a total of 480, then hasted action dash for a total of 720ft in a turn! That's a smooooth 81 miles per hour, or 131 kilometers per hour if that's you stuff.

The weird thing about this is that, as written, it can't use its talons (plural) if it restrains one target. So even though it has two talons it loses the ability to use both when it is grappling something.

The low int score could easily be fixed by casting Awaken on it, it gives it a language and and int score of 10.