Buddy is running a custom game that we are a part of. I having to make a new character and was planning on this one to originate from Ravnica. To get the background and spells. But I get the all the background features & equipment but the spells are no where to be found.
I have looked through all the previous posts/forms on similar issues but every suggestion hasn’t fixed the issue or why I’m not getting the spells.
Very sad and wish it was working.
Yes he owns the book. Yes I’m able to select the background. Yes I’m playing a spellcaster class. Yes I selected the background in both the app and website. Yes I have refreshed the app/character/website after selecting. Yes Strixhaven background spells work. No the spells aren’t showing up anywhere. No the spells are showing up to even be selected as prepared or learned.
The Ravnica backgrounds do not give your character those spells, it gives those spells to your spell list.
Example, a bard normally does not have access to the fire bolt cantrip. Taking the Rakdos Cultist background adds fire bolt to the list of spells your character can learn.
Here is a better explanation I commented on reddit about a similar issue with a mark of the storm half-elf:
All of the spells for a mark of the storm half elf are from the Basic Rules. This is not a content sharing question, this is a basic understanding of the text of the rules question.
If you have the Spellcasting or the Pact Magic class feature, the spells on the Mark of Storm Spells table are added to the spell list of your spellcasting class.
This does not say these spells are added to your character. This just says these spells are now available for you to select when you learn new spells at level up.
Example, Conjure Elemental is not normally a sorcerer spell. If you are a mark of the shadow half-elf then Conjure Elemental will now show up in the list of available L5 spells to pick when you hit sorcerer levels 9 and up. It will look like this on the builder page where you select spells.
I know this is the same case for any of the ravnica backgrounds too.
What you're probably confusing this with it the adding of spells similar to the Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul sorcerer subclasses or any cleric domain which says:
You learn additional spells when you reach certain levels in this class, as shown on the (Psionic Spells|Clockwork Soul) table. Each of these spells counts as a sorcerer spell for you, but it doesn’t count against the number of sorcerer spells you know.
or
Each domain has a list of spells — its domain spells — that you gain at the cleric levels noted in the domain description. Once you gain a domain spell, you always have it prepared, and it doesn’t count against the number of spells you can prepare each day.
If you have a domain spell that doesn’t appear on the cleric spell list, the spell is nonetheless a cleric spell for you.
There's a difference between spells you learn/know and spells on your class's spell list
From what I can tell the main issue is. During character creation. It’s not giving me the block of spells.
Examples: If I choose a race like one of the Marks.Under racial traits it’s showing block of Spells of the Mark. In backgrounds if I choose a student it gives me the block strixhaven initiate where I can chose spells. In both cases the spells show up after completing character. But when I chose any of the Ravnica backgrounds. I get no block showing Spells. (Block of languages, leverage & suggested characteristics) & after character completing again no spells shown nor can I chose to prepare/known.
Any ideas on how to fix that or no that isn’t the problem either?
From what I can tell the main issue is. During character creation. It’s not giving me the block of spells.
Examples: If I choose a race like one of the Marks.Under racial traits it’s showing block of Spells of the Mark. In backgrounds if I choose a student it gives me the block strixhaven initiate where I can chose spells. In both cases the spells show up after completing character. But when I chose any of the Ravnica backgrounds. I get no block showing Spells. (Block of languages, leverage & suggested characteristics) & after character completing again no spells shown nor can I chose to prepare/known.
Any ideas on how to fix that or no that isn’t the problem either?
I think I know what you're talking about, the list of Ravnica background spells is not showing on the Description page under Background in the character builder, whereas the spells for any of the Strixhaven Initiate are showing in an additional box called Strixhaven Initiate.
Like this:
I just don't think they thought through adding stuff like that in older backgrounds. I know some backgrounds have background specific tables that do not show up in the builder and in the past I've had to go to the source book to figure out what flavor I wanted to go in those background specific tables.
The tables you're wanting do show up on the character sheet though, albeit with some bugs. Davyd, can you check into these:
From what I can tell the main issue is. During character creation. It’s not giving me the block of spells.
Examples: If I choose a race like one of the Marks.Under racial traits it’s showing block of Spells of the Mark. In backgrounds if I choose a student it gives me the block strixhaven initiate where I can chose spells. In both cases the spells show up after completing character. But when I chose any of the Ravnica backgrounds. I get no block showing Spells. (Block of languages, leverage & suggested characteristics) & after character completing again no spells shown nor can I chose to prepare/known.
Any ideas on how to fix that or no that isn’t the problem either?
I think I know what you're talking about, the list of Ravnica background spells is not showing on the Description page under Background in the character builder, whereas the spells for any of the Strixhaven Initiate are showing in an additional box called Strixhaven Initiate.
Like this:
I just don't think they thought through adding stuff like that in older backgrounds. I know some backgrounds have background specific tables that do not show up in the builder and in the past I've had to go to the source book to figure out what flavor I wanted to go in those background specific tables.
The tables you're wanting do show up on the character sheet though, albeit with some bugs. Davyd, can you check into these:
Azorius guild spells, no tooltips:
Boros guild spells, with tooltips:
And Rakdos guild, proving they are full of chaos:
Thanks, I'll raise these with the team as soon as I can
And if what you're describing (the spells not showing up in the character builder) is the issue, that is indeed a holdover from the Ravnica backgrounds being the first ones that grant spells and being set up in a different manner
Buddy is running a custom game that we are a part of. I having to make a new character and was planning on this one to originate from Ravnica. To get the background and spells. But I get the all the background features & equipment but the spells are no where to be found.
I have looked through all the previous posts/forms on similar issues but every suggestion hasn’t fixed the issue or why I’m not getting the spells.
Very sad and wish it was working.
Yes he owns the book. Yes I’m able to select the background. Yes I’m playing a spellcaster class. Yes I selected the background in both the app and website. Yes I have refreshed the app/character/website after selecting. Yes Strixhaven background spells work. No the spells aren’t showing up anywhere. No the spells are showing up to even be selected as prepared or learned.
Any other ideas?
The Ravnica backgrounds do not give your character those spells, it gives those spells to your spell list.
Example, a bard normally does not have access to the fire bolt cantrip. Taking the Rakdos Cultist background adds fire bolt to the list of spells your character can learn.
Here is a better explanation I commented on reddit about a similar issue with a mark of the storm half-elf:
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From what I can tell the main issue is. During character creation. It’s not giving me the block of spells.
Examples: If I choose a race like one of the Marks. Under racial traits it’s showing block of Spells of the Mark. In backgrounds if I choose a student it gives me the block strixhaven initiate where I can chose spells. In both cases the spells show up after completing character. But when I chose any of the Ravnica backgrounds. I get no block showing Spells. (Block of languages, leverage & suggested characteristics) & after character completing again no spells shown nor can I chose to prepare/known.
Any ideas on how to fix that or no that isn’t the problem either?
Can you link to a character where this issue is showing up?
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I think I know what you're talking about, the list of Ravnica background spells is not showing on the Description page under Background in the character builder, whereas the spells for any of the Strixhaven Initiate are showing in an additional box called Strixhaven Initiate.
Like this:
I just don't think they thought through adding stuff like that in older backgrounds. I know some backgrounds have background specific tables that do not show up in the builder and in the past I've had to go to the source book to figure out what flavor I wanted to go in those background specific tables.
The tables you're wanting do show up on the character sheet though, albeit with some bugs. Davyd, can you check into these:
Azorius guild spells, no tooltips:
Boros guild spells, with tooltips:
And Rakdos guild, proving they are full of chaos:
How to: Replace DEX in AC | Jump & Suffocation stats | Spell & class effect buff system | Wild Shape effect system | Tool Proficiencies as Custom Skills | Spells at higher levels explained | Superior Fighting/Martial Adept Fix | Snippet Codes Explored - Subclasses | Snippet Math Theory | Homebrew Weapons Explained
My: FEATS | MAGIC ITEMS | MONSTERS | SUBCLASSES Artificer Specialist: Weaveblade
Dndbeyond images not loading WORKAROUND FIXED!!! (TY Jay_Lane for original instructions)
https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/117827059
updated to public.
Thanks, I'll raise these with the team as soon as I can
And if what you're describing (the spells not showing up in the character builder) is the issue, that is indeed a holdover from the Ravnica backgrounds being the first ones that grant spells and being set up in a different manner
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
I am working with a Rakdos background warlock and I am still encountering the same problem. Has this been resolved or will it be? Thanks!