It's a very simple concept, really. Curse makes D&D Beyond, Twitch owns Curse, and Twitch has an established login system. It only makes sense for Curse to use it.
It's a very simple concept, really. Curse makes D&D Beyond, Twitch owns Curse, and Twitch has an established login system. It only makes sense for Curse to use it.
Just because it's a simple concept doesn't make it a good idea.
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I'm here to have fun.
I don't care how long you've played, what your character is, was, or would do. You're either interesting or not.
Third party cookies essentially mean you don't have enough faith in your own product to keep you afloat.
Actually, you do need an account, if you want to be able to use D&D Beyond fully (post on forums, create characters etc).
It's totally necessary to have an account if you want to do these things.
Please can you show me where this "fibbing" has taken place?
Third party cookies don't mean anything of the sort. Twitch already have a well-established and secure authentication framework, so why spend time and money developing and maintaining another one?
It's a very simple concept, really. Curse makes D&D Beyond, Twitch owns Curse, and Twitch has an established login system. It only makes sense for Curse to use it.
Just because it's a simple concept doesn't make it a good idea.
So, you want them to put the time, effort, and money to come up with another authencation system, and then support it?
Third party cookies essentially mean you don't have enough faith in your own product to keep you afloat.
Actually, you do need an account, if you want to be able to use D&D Beyond fully (post on forums, create characters etc).
It's totally necessary to have an account if you want to do these things.
Please can you show me where this "fibbing" has taken place?
Third party cookies don't mean anything of the sort. Twitch already have a well-established and secure authentication framework, so why spend time and money developing and maintaining another one?
No, no I don't need an account on a video service I'll never use to post to a message board. Message boards are some of the oldest website types on the internet, and if they couldn't buy one with little to no effort they don't have very intelligent or competent people in their tech departments, and the message board would come with the login tools. So getting the signups of myself and the others who will never use the video side because we wish to post here or curate info with a group is indeed fibbing about users. I deeply, truly doubt they keep track of logins here versus on the streaming service separately so when they tell someone "we have X" active users they are at best exaggerating.
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I'm here to have fun.
I don't care how long you've played, what your character is, was, or would do. You're either interesting or not.
If it would help, I can go through what you've said about message boards and explain why this is incorrect.
With regards the users, I don't have access to the data, but I strongly suspect that a large percentage of D&D Beyond users watch Twitch streams (like Critical Role) at least occasionally.
I would prefer if we could just use our Amazon account since Amazon owns Twitch. But in the end, whether I sign up for a Twitch account or a DNDBeyond account, I'm still creating an account.
Even I think your complaints are excessive and unhelpful, and one of the few who actually defends complainers around here.
There's no problem with people complaining, we just ask for some constructive feedback.
Letting the team know that you would like to be able to login via your Amazon account instead is valid feedback. Can you let us know why you would prefer that?
There's no problem with people complaining, we just ask for some constructive feedback.
Letting the team know that you would like to be able to login via your Amazon account instead is valid feedback. Can you let us know why you would prefer that?
1) I already have an amazon account, many more do compared to Twitch accounts.
2) I wouldn't mind being able to use my Amazon store card for purchases. (That may already be possible, I only made one purchase and used Paypal).
3) Once you link Amazon accounts it opens up cross-marketing possibilities "Would you also like to purchase the hardcover?" or "Would you also like to purchase digital access through DNDBeyond?" But then, more people would probably want discounts for combined purchases, so you probably don't want to open that up.
It's like using a socisl media site to login/sign up, except they use their own authentication system. oAuth, it's a thing. Get use to it because that's how most sites are now.
Also you are making use of your account benefits by posting here ☺
No, no I don't need an account on a video service I'll never use to post to a message board. Message boards are some of the oldest website types on the internet, and if they couldn't buy one with little to no effort they don't have very intelligent or competent people in their tech departments, and the message board would come with the login tools. So getting the signups of myself and the others who will never use the video side because we wish to post here or curate info with a group is indeed fibbing about users. I deeply, truly doubt they keep track of logins here versus on the streaming service separately so when they tell someone "we have X" active users they are at best exaggerating.
The entire point is to actually LIMIT the number of logins you need. Why have yet another login just for these forums? It makes sense on several levels to combine them. If the "Twitch" login screen instead said "DND Beyond", would that make you feel better? What if Twitch used the login system for DND Beyond? Would you be as frustrated?
Your comment about the intelligence or competence of the technical folks at Curse/Twitch is completely out of line and just demonstrates your ignorance of how Internet-based applications work. Note that ignorance isn't a crime or an insult. We are all ignorant of many things. However, you are making many ignorant statements while insulting people that absolutely know more than you do on these subjects.
Your deep doubt is not founded on anything factual. The authentication service (Twitch in this case) is not relevant to tracking users on this site or any others. They could just have easily used Google, Facebook, or Microsoft for login authentication. They can track users regardless of what system performs the actual login process. It makes sense that they chose Twitch since it's part of their company already. It is very common for sites to use other login systems to avoid having to create authentication systems from scratch.
Finally, your comment "Third party cookies essentially mean you don't have enough faith in your own product to keep you afloat" makes zero sense. Faith in their product is 100% irrelevant to the use of 3rd party cookies.
Source: I work in the Internet technology industry. I am fluent in authentication protocols (SAML, JWT, etc.), security, application development practices, devops, and pretty much everything related to running online systems. I'm not an expert at everything, but this topic I can speak comfortably about. I am happy to answer questions or have my comments critiqued. let's just be civil, eh?
Why in the heck did I have to sign up for a Twitch account I will never use in order to sign up for an account here?
This is a ridiculous waste of my time and a barrier to WotC earning money that makes negative sense.
That doesn't even include the sliminess of requiring third party cookies to be enabled.
I'm here to have fun.
I don't care how long you've played, what your character is, was, or would do. You're either interesting or not.
Choose wisely.
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I'm not stupid. I'm just unlucky when I'm thinking.
It's a very simple concept, really. Curse makes D&D Beyond, Twitch owns Curse, and Twitch has an established login system. It only makes sense for Curse to use it.
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I don't need it.
It's unnecessary.
Its fibbing to marketers about "active users".
Third party cookies essentially mean you don't have enough faith in your own product to keep you afloat.
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D&D Beyond FoundersIt seems to me that you have a dislike of Twitch?
If it would help, I can go through what you've said about message boards and explain why this is incorrect.
With regards the users, I don't have access to the data, but I strongly suspect that a large percentage of D&D Beyond users watch Twitch streams (like Critical Role) at least occasionally.
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So you hate it so much, that you signed up on it, just to post how much you hated signing up on it. .....makes sense
I would prefer if we could just use our Amazon account since Amazon owns Twitch. But in the end, whether I sign up for a Twitch account or a DNDBeyond account, I'm still creating an account.
Even I think your complaints are excessive and unhelpful, and one of the few who actually defends complainers around here.
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D&D Beyond FoundersThere's no problem with people complaining, we just ask for some constructive feedback.
Letting the team know that you would like to be able to login via your Amazon account instead is valid feedback. Can you let us know why you would prefer that?
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Being able to use Amazon Pay instead of Paypal would be really cool.
It's like using a socisl media site to login/sign up, except they use their own authentication system. oAuth, it's a thing. Get use to it because that's how most sites are now.
Also you are making use of your account benefits by posting here ☺
The entire point is to actually LIMIT the number of logins you need. Why have yet another login just for these forums? It makes sense on several levels to combine them. If the "Twitch" login screen instead said "DND Beyond", would that make you feel better? What if Twitch used the login system for DND Beyond? Would you be as frustrated?
Your comment about the intelligence or competence of the technical folks at Curse/Twitch is completely out of line and just demonstrates your ignorance of how Internet-based applications work. Note that ignorance isn't a crime or an insult. We are all ignorant of many things. However, you are making many ignorant statements while insulting people that absolutely know more than you do on these subjects.
Your deep doubt is not founded on anything factual. The authentication service (Twitch in this case) is not relevant to tracking users on this site or any others. They could just have easily used Google, Facebook, or Microsoft for login authentication. They can track users regardless of what system performs the actual login process. It makes sense that they chose Twitch since it's part of their company already. It is very common for sites to use other login systems to avoid having to create authentication systems from scratch.
Finally, your comment "Third party cookies essentially mean you don't have enough faith in your own product to keep you afloat" makes zero sense. Faith in their product is 100% irrelevant to the use of 3rd party cookies.
Source: I work in the Internet technology industry. I am fluent in authentication protocols (SAML, JWT, etc.), security, application development practices, devops, and pretty much everything related to running online systems. I'm not an expert at everything, but this topic I can speak comfortably about. I am happy to answer questions or have my comments critiqued. let's just be civil, eh?
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Trolls have a really high AC here at DnDB.... heh