"use premium dungeon gems for a chance to get the new warlock patron! double loot box drops this month only!"
I feel bad for the people in this thread who seem to have convinced themselves that this is a plausible scenario
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"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
I doubt this will happen; the whole reason Artificer isn't in OneD&D is because they'll release a new Eberron book at some point with Artificer as the main selling point, and then go right back to treating it like a second class citizen. They're not going to abandon something that's sold well in the past, and that they believe they can just sell to us again and again.
For everyone annoyed at the dropping of a la carte, I should have noted I filed a support ticket complaining about the loss of the feature; while I feel bad for the support staff, they said they will pass comments on to another team, so I say call their bluff. Everyone that uses it should complain they can no longer do it, because it is after all a long standing website feature that is no longer functioning.
+1 for filling out a support ticket.
Independently I doubt it will accomplish much, but in suitable numbers who knows.
Remember for those who do, to keep your concerns objective - what is it you are upset about, how has it impacted you now, how will it impact your purchasing going forwards. People are quick to dismiss emotive responses
I believe this is the link to the place where if we stuff the complain box, maybe someone will check it.
You all can do what you want, but if you actually read the page https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/7747202565652-Feedback-and-Questions before firing off into the first window that allows you to type text, you'd see that "feedback" (which commentary about the Marketplace change would be) is encouraged to be put back on this board, in the feed back section https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/d-d-beyond-feedback. I think that's the most constructive way to make your sentiment known (and hit that like button for posts you support) rather than spam/distract the customer service representatives who do have the ability to help customers with problems in DDB as it currently works, but do not have the power to restore features to the marketplace. The feedback section is the one place on this board DDB staff outside of community management definitely do read and/or receive reports.
"We decided the Artificer doesn't fit with the core design ideas of Dungeons and Dragons, and they will not be featured in newer releases moving forward."-Hasbro shortly after OneDnD releases, probably.
I doubt this will happen; the whole reason Artificer isn't in OneD&D is because they'll release a new Eberron book at some point with Artificer as the main selling point, and then go right back to treating it like a second class citizen. They're not going to abandon something that's sold well in the past, and that they believe they can just sell to us again and again.
For everyone annoyed at the dropping of a la carte, I should have noted I filed a support ticket complaining about the loss of the feature; while I feel bad for the support staff, they said they will pass comments on to another team, so I say call their bluff. Everyone that uses it should complain they can no longer do it, because it is after all a long standing website feature that is no longer functioning.
It wasn't meant to be a direct 1:1 argument but more an exaggerated example of "If they take this away, what else is on the chopping block?" and using something they never really seemed to want to have around this much in the first place seemed like a good example.
This has ruined any thoughts I may have had of buying any digital content. I really hope they bring the piecemeal option back.
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I recently tried to purchase a feat only to discover the ability to buy things piecemeal was gone. I bought a bunch of piecemeal things over the last couple of months for my characters & I would have gladly spent more if the option hadn't been removed. I am not willing nor able to pay 30 bucks all at once just to access one feat. And going forwards, I won't be buying anything else from d&d beyond unless they restore the option to buy piecemeal. If they ruin their homebrew feature, I'll just stop using this site. This company needs to get it through their thick skulls that D&D is impossible for a company to truly own; its a literal game of make believe people homebrew for & own paperback official books of, almost all of its players know this & they will act accordingly should they decide this site isn't convenient enough anymore.
TLDR: You can either have a small amount of money from me, or you can have no money at all from me, & its looking like D&D Beyond has picked the latter.
Just adding my voice to many others since I know that the forums are onec way feedback is watched. While I generally purchase full source books eventually I generally only bought a la carte for adventure books since like many others I run a homebrew setting. That way I could add the bits and pieces I wanted without dropping the whole cost.
While it won't necessarily stop me from using the site, it will lower what I spend on the game and has already negatively impacted my opinion of both Hasbro and WoTC. It forces me to reconsider what I spend in supporting a company that does this while saying they want the hobby to grow and be more accessible to mire people. DDB did that, and now they are directly compromising that reduction in the cost barrier to entry for people. Very sad to see it.
I feel as if I'd rather purchase system agnostic things through other means than expand my library here at this point, something I never thought I'd say back in the day when Adam was at the helm of DDB.
Eliminating the option for individual purchases seems not unreasonable but incredibly greedy. It restricts many players from accessing what they actually want without overspending on unwanted items. Because of this I won't be renewing my subscription unless this is resolved.
At this point it feels like we're going in circles.
Poor community team members are passing on dissatisfied customer feedback to Wizards, who by now already knows what the feedback consists of because it's been passed to them a ton of times.
They need to make an official response soon, not doing so is drawing this out and making it worse.
This really sucks. I was going to buy the spells from the new books for my group a la carte. Looks like they’re on their own now, because I can’t afford full books.
It feels like this community is getting a little too used to having WotC cave to their demands. The decision has already been made. It was a poor one, to be sure, but it feels silly to expect them to backpedal just because it inconvenienced a few hundred people.
They need to make an official response soon, not doing so is drawing this out and making it worse.
If the issue isn't addressed, people will lose interest and move on with their lives. Companies have every right to change how they operate, even if it kinda sucks for the rest of us.
We'll move on like always and find new things to get upset about in a few months. It's the forum circle of life.
WOTC may have a long term goal we do not know about yet.
Something like reissuing all the supplements over the next 5 years all updated and shiny new.
They might have an all new pricing structure to go with them all. Something like a player price of 5 bucks for just the stuff a player needs(feats and classes) and 10 bucks for the whole book(magic items and other fluff) if your a Dm or just want it all. Individual purchasing a la carte style will be gone to be replaced with a simpler unified version. player class and dm class.
Or it could be a switch to a subscription system. Pay 5 bucks a month and get all access to all the player options as they come out along with the membership here at DDB. Or 10 bucks a month and your on the DM scale getting access to all the new books out to that point for use at DDB. I do not know but that could be one of their ideas.
Anything is possible, all they need to do is communicate.
but for right now they can put it back or else i can't trust what's gone next. legacy books? 3rd party books? classes that don't poll well? they can put it back and they can try again with their words.
Yep, this is it. Hasbro have underestimated how much of this "digital goldmine" they are imagining is based on trust. This isn't BG3. We don't NEED this - it's just convenient. We can walk away a dozen different ways. D&D people know this. They should sell up while they're ahead,
DId you know? The DDB marketplace has REMOVED the option for purchasing one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters "a la carte". Now you ALWAYS have to buy the ENTIRE book instead.
Unhappy? UNSUBSCRIBE and Let them know your thoughts!
I posted this elsewhere, but adding my voice here.
I concur. I DM and play; I have purchased most of the rule books (physical and digital); and for adventures, I buy as I need. But when I comes to my own games, I buy the individual feats, spells, etc. I buy all of them sans the adventure because I create my own adventure.
Check my account, D&D Beyond, I pay for a lot. Sourcebooks, adventures, and tons of those individual spells and feats. And usually when I reach a point where I have a lot from one source, since you offer a discount, I just pay for the whole adventure. Now you have taken away my ability to pay you for those items, so I have to homebrew myself and you lose the revenue.
This move does not make any sense. Why take away a revenue stream?
It is not like you are going to force creators to buy entire books if they just needed one or two feats, a few spells, etc. Instead, they just homebrew.
I hope leadership listens and understands the negative impact, especially considering the VTT move you are making into this space.
I was about to buy just Psychic Lance for future usage. But I am not interested to pay for all the bloat that is Fizban's Treasury of Dragons just for one spell I want.
You could have made me buy the part of the content that I wanted, now I am not going to buy anything for the foreseeable future. I rather spend some minutes to input the name and details of the spell manually.
@WoTC You should look up a famous quote by Gabe Newell about how "a certain something" is a service problem. You are increasing your service problems.
I usually ready to pay for the content and this feature was a very useful for me. I don't like such change and I will not pay for books, I will just grab it for free somewhere else, thanks to the very smart executives at Hasbro lol.
I can see how they remove homebrew and content sharing so the people can finally go somewhere else, to pathfinder, daggerheart or any other system where you won't get f*** by the greedy companies.
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I feel bad for the people in this thread who seem to have convinced themselves that this is a plausible scenario
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Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
+1 for filling out a support ticket.
Independently I doubt it will accomplish much, but in suitable numbers who knows.
Remember for those who do, to keep your concerns objective - what is it you are upset about, how has it impacted you now, how will it impact your purchasing going forwards. People are quick to dismiss emotive responses
https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us
I believe this is the link to the place where if we stuff the complain box, maybe someone will check it.
You all can do what you want, but if you actually read the page https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/7747202565652-Feedback-and-Questions before firing off into the first window that allows you to type text, you'd see that "feedback" (which commentary about the Marketplace change would be) is encouraged to be put back on this board, in the feed back section https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/d-d-beyond-feedback. I think that's the most constructive way to make your sentiment known (and hit that like button for posts you support) rather than spam/distract the customer service representatives who do have the ability to help customers with problems in DDB as it currently works, but do not have the power to restore features to the marketplace. The feedback section is the one place on this board DDB staff outside of community management definitely do read and/or receive reports.
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It wasn't meant to be a direct 1:1 argument but more an exaggerated example of "If they take this away, what else is on the chopping block?" and using something they never really seemed to want to have around this much in the first place seemed like a good example.
This has ruined any thoughts I may have had of buying any digital content. I really hope they bring the piecemeal option back.
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"Oh no! Looks like I've taken Ragatha... AND DROPPED HER IN THE DEEP FRYER!" -Jax
I recently tried to purchase a feat only to discover the ability to buy things piecemeal was gone. I bought a bunch of piecemeal things over the last couple of months for my characters & I would have gladly spent more if the option hadn't been removed. I am not willing nor able to pay 30 bucks all at once just to access one feat. And going forwards, I won't be buying anything else from d&d beyond unless they restore the option to buy piecemeal. If they ruin their homebrew feature, I'll just stop using this site. This company needs to get it through their thick skulls that D&D is impossible for a company to truly own; its a literal game of make believe people homebrew for & own paperback official books of, almost all of its players know this & they will act accordingly should they decide this site isn't convenient enough anymore.
TLDR: You can either have a small amount of money from me, or you can have no money at all from me, & its looking like D&D Beyond has picked the latter.
Just adding my voice to many others since I know that the forums are onec way feedback is watched. While I generally purchase full source books eventually I generally only bought a la carte for adventure books since like many others I run a homebrew setting. That way I could add the bits and pieces I wanted without dropping the whole cost.
While it won't necessarily stop me from using the site, it will lower what I spend on the game and has already negatively impacted my opinion of both Hasbro and WoTC. It forces me to reconsider what I spend in supporting a company that does this while saying they want the hobby to grow and be more accessible to mire people. DDB did that, and now they are directly compromising that reduction in the cost barrier to entry for people. Very sad to see it.
I feel as if I'd rather purchase system agnostic things through other means than expand my library here at this point, something I never thought I'd say back in the day when Adam was at the helm of DDB.
I won't be renewing my subscription to DnD beyond after this. I won't support this sort of money hungry behavior.
Eliminating the option for individual purchases seems not unreasonable but incredibly greedy. It restricts many players from accessing what they actually want without overspending on unwanted items. Because of this I won't be renewing my subscription unless this is resolved.
At this point it feels like we're going in circles.
Poor community team members are passing on dissatisfied customer feedback to Wizards, who by now already knows what the feedback consists of because it's been passed to them a ton of times.
They need to make an official response soon, not doing so is drawing this out and making it worse.
This really sucks. I was going to buy the spells from the new books for my group a la carte. Looks like they’re on their own now, because I can’t afford full books.
This may very well be an unpopular opinion, but:
It feels like this community is getting a little too used to having WotC cave to their demands. The decision has already been made. It was a poor one, to be sure, but it feels silly to expect them to backpedal just because it inconvenienced a few hundred people.
If the issue isn't addressed, people will lose interest and move on with their lives. Companies have every right to change how they operate, even if it kinda sucks for the rest of us.
We'll move on like always and find new things to get upset about in a few months. It's the forum circle of life.
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Yeah, you will not get anymore of my money, instead of getting 10 bucks from me here and there, you will get nothing. You loose GOOD DAY SIR
Oh yeah and do not think for a moment that they wont come for the Homebrew section next.
Yep, this is it.
Hasbro have underestimated how much of this "digital goldmine" they are imagining is based on trust.
This isn't BG3.
We don't NEED this - it's just convenient. We can walk away a dozen different ways.
D&D people know this.
They should sell up while they're ahead,
DId you know?
The DDB marketplace has REMOVED the option for purchasing one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters "a la carte".
Now you ALWAYS have to buy the ENTIRE book instead.
Unhappy? UNSUBSCRIBE and
Let them know your thoughts!
I posted this elsewhere, but adding my voice here.
I concur. I DM and play; I have purchased most of the rule books (physical and digital); and for adventures, I buy as I need. But when I comes to my own games, I buy the individual feats, spells, etc. I buy all of them sans the adventure because I create my own adventure.
Check my account, D&D Beyond, I pay for a lot. Sourcebooks, adventures, and tons of those individual spells and feats. And usually when I reach a point where I have a lot from one source, since you offer a discount, I just pay for the whole adventure. Now you have taken away my ability to pay you for those items, so I have to homebrew myself and you lose the revenue.
This move does not make any sense. Why take away a revenue stream?
It is not like you are going to force creators to buy entire books if they just needed one or two feats, a few spells, etc. Instead, they just homebrew.
I hope leadership listens and understands the negative impact, especially considering the VTT move you are making into this space.
Thanks
I was about to buy just Psychic Lance for future usage. But I am not interested to pay for all the bloat that is Fizban's Treasury of Dragons just for one spell I want.
You could have made me buy the part of the content that I wanted, now I am not going to buy anything for the foreseeable future. I rather spend some minutes to input the name and details of the spell manually.
@WoTC You should look up a famous quote by Gabe Newell about how "a certain something" is a service problem.
You are increasing your service problems.
I usually ready to pay for the content and this feature was a very useful for me. I don't like such change and I will not pay for books, I will just grab it for free somewhere else, thanks to the very smart executives at Hasbro lol.
I can see how they remove homebrew and content sharing so the people can finally go somewhere else, to pathfinder, daggerheart or any other system where you won't get f*** by the greedy companies.