This is going to ruffle some feathers but so be it. Our hobby has been slowly but surely twisted and converted into something that is very, very different from the Ad&d I used to play and love.
I signed up to D&D Beyond, for what? To find groups to play in? Well there's other places that don't charge a subscription to have a forum to do that.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
And the idea of playing online was neat. But it has now been bastardised into a thing for people to constantly pay money, for what? New maps? New tokens?
Folks, this game is at its best when you don't have any external crap! All you need is some funny shaped dice, some graph paper, maybe some hex, and some players who are invested in their characters, and how THEY imagine them. Not some fake mini which now has the player thinking his character looks like that piece of crap. and then when you finally get players, most of the game is assing around with moving shitty tokens on a shitty looking fake terrain map, or a town map. It totally ruins something which is the holy grail of all role-playing and a necessity for a great game session, and it's one word...
verisimilitude
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
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This is going to ruffle some feathers but so be it. Our hobby has been slowly but surely twisted and converted into something that is very, very different from the Ad&d I used to play and love.
I signed up to D&D Beyond, for what? To find groups to play in? Well there's other places that don't charge a subscription to have a forum to do that.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
And the idea of playing online was neat. But it has now been bastardised into a thing for people to constantly pay money, for what? New maps? New tokens?
Folks, this game is at its best when you don't have any external crap! All you need is some funny shaped dice, some graph paper, maybe some hex, and some players who are invested in their characters, and how THEY imagine them. Not some fake mini which now has the player thinking his character looks like that piece of crap. and then when you finally get players, most of the game is assing around with moving shitty tokens on a shitty looking fake terrain map, or a town map. It totally ruins something which is the holy grail of all role-playing and a necessity for a great game session, and it's one word...
verisimilitude
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
Mate, chill. All of that is still eminently possible, and the way many on here, including me, choose to enjoy at least some of our D&D games.
The extra stuff is just for the people who want to invest that time and money into their hobby to try and make it more immersive/varied/exciting/visually appealing etc.
Also, genuinely curious, what *do* you think is coming next?
Nothing is stopping anyone from playing D&D as it has always been played. There is no cost to finding groups online, and with the resources available online, paying anything is entirely optional.
However, the introduction of new resources, such as digital character sheets that track mechanics, has massively improved accessibility to the game and has increased participation by an obscene amount.
You don’t have to pay to post on the forums. All of the digital tabletop things you’ve mentioned don’t exist here. Not yet, anyway. So I’m not really sure who you are paying for the things you say your paying for. D&D still supports theater of the mind. And people who choose to use digital maps and tokens generally know that. They’re just playing the way they like to play. No one is asking you to. And as someone who also has been playing since 1e, this site provides a welcome tool I would have loved to have had back then. And, the game has evolved. It’s much more accessible to many more people, in no small part the result of digital options which can allow people who might live in an area with few in-person option to still play and enjoy the game. The changes are for the better.
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
Wizards of the Coast aren't "money grabbing leeches". They are a company, and like all other companies, they have to make money. D&D Beyond is a toolset that makes playing the game easier. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to. And not only do you not have to pay a cent to use the forums, but DDB's subscriptions and the prices you have to pay in order to use the tools on it are quite reasonable. Not only that, but you can play the game for free using the Basic Rules.
Words such as "bastardized" and "scam" have power. You really just seem to be throwing them around in order to cause chaos and spread anger. Again, if you think this is a scam, you don't have to use it. But in the meantime, what do you gain from telling everyone that uses this platform that they're stupid?
Wizards of the Coast aren't "money grabbing leeches"
Well, yeah they kinda are, which is why I boycotted them for a decade until 5e brought me back into the fold. In fact, they just got into a pile of trouble for being money grubbing leeches.
Wizards of the Coast aren't "money grabbing leeches"
Well, yeah they kinda are, which is why I boycotted them for a decade until 5e brought me back into the fold. In fact, they just got into a pile of trouble for being money grubbing leeches.
They're a for-profit company. The fact that they want to make money should really, really not be a surprise to people. We can stop freaking out about a corporation using corporate language in an internal meeting already.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
They're a for-profit company. The fact that they want to make money should really, really not be a surprise to people. We can stop freaking out about a corporation using corporate language in an internal meeting already.
Exactly, Wizards of the Coast is a business corporation - and like every business in existence - they have to make money in order to keep making and improving their products. Just because a company is exploring new ways to make money doesn't make them "money grabbing leeches". It makes them just another ordinary business in a world full of businesses.
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Wizards of the Coast aren't "money grabbing leeches"
Well, yeah they kinda are, which is why I boycotted them for a decade until 5e brought me back into the fold. In fact, they just got into a pile of trouble for being money grubbing leeches.
They're a for-profit company. The fact that they want to make money should really, really not be a surprise to people. We can stop freaking out about a corporation using corporate language in an internal meeting already.
I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
I have no idea what you are talking about
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The wonderful thing about D&D - you don’t have to play the same way as everyone else. Some people like all the things you are ranting about - it isn’t your place to knock them for the way they play, just like it isn’t their place to knock you for not wanting to play that way. Realistically, the only wrong way to play D&D is by playing in a way where you belittle others for their choices.
I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
That is not exactly what happened. The report that tanked Hasbro stock? Their main concern was that Wizards was doing too much for their customers by reprinting old cards and making the game cheaper.
I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
That is not exactly what happened. The report that tanked Hasbro stock? Their main concern was that Wizards was doing too much for their customers by reprinting old cards and making the game cheaper.
I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
That is not exactly what happened. The report that tanked Hasbro stock? Their main concern was that Wizards was doing too much for their customers by reprinting old cards and making the game cheaper.
Oh, for sure - there are plenty of things with Magic Wizards is super scuzzy with - overly aggressive release periods, trying to appeal to so many different types of player it makes the actual releases themselves a mess, increasingly worse quality control on premium foil cards such as Secret Lairs, the entire mess that was the Magic 30th packs. But what tanked the stock was Wizards reprinting much-needed cards, and some Wall Street folks thinking that might upset Target, Walmart, and Amazon (who move less then 30% of Magic product).
I am all for giving Wizards flack (particularly for Magic - I am less concerned with their present monetisation systems D&D), but I think it is important to focus the flack where deserved, and not on a report that dinged Wizards for one of the few places they were not greedy with Magic.
I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
That is not exactly what happened. The report that tanked Hasbro stock? Their main concern was that Wizards was doing too much for their customers by reprinting old cards and making the game cheaper.
Oh, for sure - there are plenty of things with Magic Wizards is super scuzzy with - overly aggressive release periods, trying to appeal to so many different types of player it makes the actual releases themselves a mess, increasingly worse quality control on premium foil cards such as Secret Lairs, the entire mess that was the Magic 30th packs. But what tanked the stock was Wizards reprinting much-needed cards, and some Wall Street folks thinking that might upset Target, Walmart, and Amazon (who move less then 30% of Magic product).
I am all for giving Wizards flack (particularly for Magic - I am less concerned with their present monetisation systems D&D), but I think it is important to focus the flack where deserved, and not on a report that dinged Wizards for one of the few places they were not greedy with Magic.
I sincerely doubt there was anything altruistic regarding WotC re-releasing those cards. They did it because they knew they could push more cardboard crack that way. And a lot of what you said about M:tG, namely “overly aggressive release periods, trying to appeal to so many different types of player it makes the actual releases themselves a mess, increasingly worse quality control….” I see all of that happening with D&D lately too.
This is going to ruffle some feathers but so be it. Our hobby has been slowly but surely twisted and converted into something that is very, very different from the Ad&d I used to play and love.
I signed up to D&D Beyond, for what? To find groups to play in? Well there's other places that don't charge a subscription to have a forum to do that.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
And the idea of playing online was neat. But it has now been bastardised into a thing for people to constantly pay money, for what? New maps? New tokens?
Folks, this game is at its best when you don't have any external crap! All you need is some funny shaped dice, some graph paper, maybe some hex, and some players who are invested in their characters, and how THEY imagine them. Not some fake mini which now has the player thinking his character looks like that piece of crap. and then when you finally get players, most of the game is assing around with moving shitty tokens on a shitty looking fake terrain map, or a town map. It totally ruins something which is the holy grail of all role-playing and a necessity for a great game session, and it's one word...
verisimilitude
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
Bruh what, you dont need to buy a pdf to homebrew stuff online, theres plenty of sites including this one that let you do it for free
thats one
2. you dont have to pay a subscription to post here or look for games here, the only thing you need to pay a subscription for, is content sharing for folks in your dnd campaigns, and even then, you can just privately make some of the subclasses and not publish them, allowing only your friend group to use them, cuz they get to use your hb in a campaign
3. you can still very much play theater of the mind, but some folks prefer having solid maps, and figures and tokens on them, as it helps them with whats going on. not only that but a good portion of VTTs allow you to use your own images to create maps, tokens and other stuff, you dont even have to pay for it, so anything extra, like cool looking art that a company offers, is just paying a fee to get it
and fourthly : no ones going to remember this post in a few years, because wizards more then likely wont shoot itself in the foot by forcibly taking that ability to play like that away, now may they possibly monotize digital gaming more? sure, but youll always be able to play with just like, 3 books, pencil, paper, and dice
chill man, wotc is a scummy company at times, alot of the time, but this is just not true in so many respects
This is going to ruffle some feathers but so be it. Our hobby has been slowly but surely twisted and converted into something that is very, very different from the Ad&d I used to play and love.
I signed up to D&D Beyond, for what? To find groups to play in? Well there's other places that don't charge a subscription to have a forum to do that.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
And the idea of playing online was neat. But it has now been bastardised into a thing for people to constantly pay money, for what? New maps? New tokens?
Folks, this game is at its best when you don't have any external crap! All you need is some funny shaped dice, some graph paper, maybe some hex, and some players who are invested in their characters, and how THEY imagine them. Not some fake mini which now has the player thinking his character looks like that piece of crap. and then when you finally get players, most of the game is assing around with moving shitty tokens on a shitty looking fake terrain map, or a town map. It totally ruins something which is the holy grail of all role-playing and a necessity for a great game session, and it's one word...
verisimilitude
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
I started playing in the AD&D 1e/BECMI era, and I have to honestly say I’ve read your post twice and have no clue what you are talking about. You don’t need a subscription to post on this forum. The homebrew system has absolutely nothing to do with PDFs. Maps weren’t free back then. What???
I think there’s less feather ruffling and more head scratching because your rant makes no sense at all. All the things you claim to be mad about don’t even exist.
So… whatever, man. If you think it’s a scam, then don’t give them money. It’s that simple. Personally, to me this is the golden era of the game and in my nearly 40 years I’ve been playing it, I’ve never been more excited about it than now. Sorry you’re angry and miserable, and I hope you find a game you enjoy.
EDIT TO ADD: Thinking about this again, if you are new to this site, do you just need some clarification on how it works? If you just need some grounding in what’s what on this site and/or online gaming since it can be confusing when first trying to make sense of it (it sure was for me!), maybe just ask for that? Plenty of people around who are happy to help!
Dude's account says they started with DDB mid 2020 ... that long and still doesn't seem to have the foggiest what this site is for. Seems to like forum games and knows how to use Discord so, trolling.
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This is going to ruffle some feathers but so be it. Our hobby has been slowly but surely twisted and converted into something that is very, very different from the Ad&d I used to play and love.
I signed up to D&D Beyond, for what? To find groups to play in? Well there's other places that don't charge a subscription to have a forum to do that.
You do not need a subscription to access the forums and our Looking for Players & Groups subforum. The subscription is for unlimited character slots and encounters, early access to tools, and content sharing at the master tier.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
D&D Beyond doesn't sell PDFs, and no homebrew content on the site should be reproducing content that is sold by other companies. The homebrew tools are free to use
And the idea of playing online was neat. But it has now been bastardised into a thing for people to constantly pay money, for what? New maps? New tokens?
You don't need maps or tokens to play online, and there are plenty of free apps for making maps and tokens. I personally like Dungeon Scrawler for maps and Token Stamp 2 for tokens
Folks, this game is at its best when you don't have any external crap! All you need is some funny shaped dice, some graph paper, maybe some hex, and some players who are invested in their characters, and how THEY imagine them. Not some fake mini which now has the player thinking his character looks like that piece of crap. and then when you finally get players, most of the game is assing around with moving shitty tokens on a shitty looking fake terrain map, or a town map. It totally ruins something which is the holy grail of all role-playing and a necessity for a great game session, and it's one word...
verisimilitude
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
I think it's important to remember that each group likes to play D&D their own way. I like using minis and terrain that I've painted myself, or maps and tokens I've made myself for online play. Some people love playing Theatre of the Mind (and some people can't such as those with aphantasia, the inability to visualise things)
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
People have been using minis and online tools for a while now (since fourth edition at the very least) so I'm not sure much will change in a couple of years. And no one should be flaming you, that's against the forum rules
I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
That is not exactly what happened. The report that tanked Hasbro stock? Their main concern was that Wizards was doing too much for their customers by reprinting old cards and making the game cheaper.
Not tournament legal per WotC tournament rules does not equal 'illegal' in the normal connotation of the word. There are no actual laws or statutes being broken by them.
Not to mention this line at the end of the article: "Overall, this is a collector’s item. You’re more likely to see these cards in a display case, rather than in a deck."
Ding ding ding! It's a collector's item. That should have been obvious from the price. People were confused about that??? Collectors are one of the 3 customer groups they specifically focus on as having different interests (the other two being professional players and casual players). Not every product is for every customer, and apparently "this product is not targeted at me" now qualifies as a scam??? Wow, seems to fit the trend of small but loud groups of fans claiming if something doesn't cater to their personal interests, it's garbage. (See Star Wars and loud whining in many other fandoms.) That's really sad.
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This is going to ruffle some feathers but so be it. Our hobby has been slowly but surely twisted and converted into something that is very, very different from the Ad&d I used to play and love.
I signed up to D&D Beyond, for what? To find groups to play in? Well there's other places that don't charge a subscription to have a forum to do that.
I tried the homebrew stuff, and it's always a little, rabbit-hole to buy some pdf!
And the idea of playing online was neat. But it has now been bastardised into a thing for people to constantly pay money, for what? New maps? New tokens?
Folks, this game is at its best when you don't have any external crap! All you need is some funny shaped dice, some graph paper, maybe some hex, and some players who are invested in their characters, and how THEY imagine them. Not some fake mini which now has the player thinking his character looks like that piece of crap. and then when you finally get players, most of the game is assing around with moving shitty tokens on a shitty looking fake terrain map, or a town map. It totally ruins something which is the holy grail of all role-playing and a necessity for a great game session, and it's one word...
verisimilitude
Just you core books and that. Voice chat if online. There. WotC are just money grabbing leeches that have made a very nice looking display. But you all know what's coming next right?
Guys this a scam that will ruin our game, and leech money from us. Flame me all you want, but remember this post in a couple of years!
'This is I at the height of my degradation. Suffer this, and ye shall suffer greatness!'
Mate, chill. All of that is still eminently possible, and the way many on here, including me, choose to enjoy at least some of our D&D games.
The extra stuff is just for the people who want to invest that time and money into their hobby to try and make it more immersive/varied/exciting/visually appealing etc.
Also, genuinely curious, what *do* you think is coming next?
Nothing is stopping anyone from playing D&D as it has always been played. There is no cost to finding groups online, and with the resources available online, paying anything is entirely optional.
However, the introduction of new resources, such as digital character sheets that track mechanics, has massively improved accessibility to the game and has increased participation by an obscene amount.
Literally nothing lost, and everything gained.
You don’t have to pay to post on the forums.
All of the digital tabletop things you’ve mentioned don’t exist here. Not yet, anyway. So I’m not really sure who you are paying for the things you say your paying for.
D&D still supports theater of the mind. And people who choose to use digital maps and tokens generally know that. They’re just playing the way they like to play. No one is asking you to.
And as someone who also has been playing since 1e, this site provides a welcome tool I would have loved to have had back then. And, the game has evolved. It’s much more accessible to many more people, in no small part the result of digital options which can allow people who might live in an area with few in-person option to still play and enjoy the game. The changes are for the better.
Wizards of the Coast aren't "money grabbing leeches". They are a company, and like all other companies, they have to make money. D&D Beyond is a toolset that makes playing the game easier. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to. And not only do you not have to pay a cent to use the forums, but DDB's subscriptions and the prices you have to pay in order to use the tools on it are quite reasonable. Not only that, but you can play the game for free using the Basic Rules.
Words such as "bastardized" and "scam" have power. You really just seem to be throwing them around in order to cause chaos and spread anger. Again, if you think this is a scam, you don't have to use it. But in the meantime, what do you gain from telling everyone that uses this platform that they're stupid?
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HERE.Well, yeah they kinda are, which is why I boycotted them for a decade until 5e brought me back into the fold. In fact, they just got into a pile of trouble for being money grubbing leeches.
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They're a for-profit company. The fact that they want to make money should really, really not be a surprise to people. We can stop freaking out about a corporation using corporate language in an internal meeting already.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Exactly, Wizards of the Coast is a business corporation - and like every business in existence - they have to make money in order to keep making and improving their products. Just because a company is exploring new ways to make money doesn't make them "money grabbing leeches". It makes them just another ordinary business in a world full of businesses.
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HERE.I was talking about the stock hit they just took for manipulation of the M:tG market. I understand that they’re a for-profit company, but WotC has legit been scamming customers for years.
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I have no idea what you are talking about
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The wonderful thing about D&D - you don’t have to play the same way as everyone else. Some people like all the things you are ranting about - it isn’t your place to knock them for the way they play, just like it isn’t their place to knock you for not wanting to play that way. Realistically, the only wrong way to play D&D is by playing in a way where you belittle others for their choices.
That is not exactly what happened. The report that tanked Hasbro stock? Their main concern was that Wizards was doing too much for their customers by reprinting old cards and making the game cheaper.
Oh, yeah, this was totally them not being scuzzy: (https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2022/10/wotc-sells-mtg-boosters-with-power-9-for-1000-makes-them-illegal-in-every-format.html). 🙄
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Oh, for sure - there are plenty of things with Magic Wizards is super scuzzy with - overly aggressive release periods, trying to appeal to so many different types of player it makes the actual releases themselves a mess, increasingly worse quality control on premium foil cards such as Secret Lairs, the entire mess that was the Magic 30th packs. But what tanked the stock was Wizards reprinting much-needed cards, and some Wall Street folks thinking that might upset Target, Walmart, and Amazon (who move less then 30% of Magic product).
I am all for giving Wizards flack (particularly for Magic - I am less concerned with their present monetisation systems D&D), but I think it is important to focus the flack where deserved, and not on a report that dinged Wizards for one of the few places they were not greedy with Magic.
I sincerely doubt there was anything altruistic regarding WotC re-releasing those cards. They did it because they knew they could push more cardboard crack that way. And a lot of what you said about M:tG, namely “overly aggressive release periods, trying to appeal to so many different types of player it makes the actual releases themselves a mess, increasingly worse quality control….” I see all of that happening with D&D lately too.
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Bruh what, you dont need to buy a pdf to homebrew stuff online, theres plenty of sites including this one that let you do it for free
thats one
2. you dont have to pay a subscription to post here or look for games here, the only thing you need to pay a subscription for, is content sharing for folks in your dnd campaigns, and even then, you can just privately make some of the subclasses and not publish them, allowing only your friend group to use them, cuz they get to use your hb in a campaign
3. you can still very much play theater of the mind, but some folks prefer having solid maps, and figures and tokens on them, as it helps them with whats going on. not only that but a good portion of VTTs allow you to use your own images to create maps, tokens and other stuff, you dont even have to pay for it, so anything extra, like cool looking art that a company offers, is just paying a fee to get it
and fourthly : no ones going to remember this post in a few years, because wizards more then likely wont shoot itself in the foot by forcibly taking that ability to play like that away, now may they possibly monotize digital gaming more? sure, but youll always be able to play with just like, 3 books, pencil, paper, and dice
chill man, wotc is a scummy company at times, alot of the time, but this is just not true in so many respects
I started playing in the AD&D 1e/BECMI era, and I have to honestly say I’ve read your post twice and have no clue what you are talking about. You don’t need a subscription to post on this forum. The homebrew system has absolutely nothing to do with PDFs. Maps weren’t free back then. What???
I think there’s less feather ruffling and more head scratching because your rant makes no sense at all. All the things you claim to be mad about don’t even exist.
So… whatever, man. If you think it’s a scam, then don’t give them money. It’s that simple. Personally, to me this is the golden era of the game and in my nearly 40 years I’ve been playing it, I’ve never been more excited about it than now. Sorry you’re angry and miserable, and I hope you find a game you enjoy.
EDIT TO ADD: Thinking about this again, if you are new to this site, do you just need some clarification on how it works? If you just need some grounding in what’s what on this site and/or online gaming since it can be confusing when first trying to make sense of it (it sure was for me!), maybe just ask for that? Plenty of people around who are happy to help!
Dude's account says they started with DDB mid 2020 ... that long and still doesn't seem to have the foggiest what this site is for. Seems to like forum games and knows how to use Discord so, trolling.
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I'd like to clarify some things as you appear to have the wrong end of the stick about some of our services.
You do not need a subscription to access the forums and our Looking for Players & Groups subforum. The subscription is for unlimited character slots and encounters, early access to tools, and content sharing at the master tier.
D&D Beyond doesn't sell PDFs, and no homebrew content on the site should be reproducing content that is sold by other companies. The homebrew tools are free to use
You don't need maps or tokens to play online, and there are plenty of free apps for making maps and tokens. I personally like Dungeon Scrawler for maps and Token Stamp 2 for tokens
I think it's important to remember that each group likes to play D&D their own way. I like using minis and terrain that I've painted myself, or maps and tokens I've made myself for online play. Some people love playing Theatre of the Mind (and some people can't such as those with aphantasia, the inability to visualise things)
People have been using minis and online tools for a while now (since fourth edition at the very least) so I'm not sure much will change in a couple of years. And no one should be flaming you, that's against the forum rules
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Not to mention this line at the end of the article: "Overall, this is a collector’s item. You’re more likely to see these cards in a display case, rather than in a deck."
Ding ding ding! It's a collector's item. That should have been obvious from the price. People were confused about that??? Collectors are one of the 3 customer groups they specifically focus on as having different interests (the other two being professional players and casual players). Not every product is for every customer, and apparently "this product is not targeted at me" now qualifies as a scam??? Wow, seems to fit the trend of small but loud groups of fans claiming if something doesn't cater to their personal interests, it's garbage. (See Star Wars and loud whining in many other fandoms.) That's really sad.