What point would you be making? You think suits at Hasbro/WotC are gonna be like "Whelp, the movie didn't do well, guess we'll go back to OGL 1.0 and drop all plans to monetize DnD..."
I actually hope the movie does well, showing that there ARE good ways to monetize the IP without pissing off their fan-base.
What point would you be making? You think suits at Hasbro/WotC are gonna be like "Whelp, the movie didn't do well, guess we'll go back to OGL 1.0 and drop all plans to monetize DnD..."
I actually hope the movie does well, showing that there ARE good ways to monetize the IP without pissing off their fan-base.
Because all they understand is money and if they push 1.1 through close to how it was and still see profits increasing it will fortify the stance of they where right and don't need 3rd party. If they see a fear of there movie potentially not doing well because of the backlash it's a further point that they need there fan base and influences that are also largely creators.
I want wotc to come forward with a reasuring and ironclad solution that gives 3rd party creators peace of mind and protection from this happening again. I want the hobby and game I love to thrive. But in the current turmoil and in its current hands it won't.
I would hope, that the movie is actually good, and then, when it is doing well, it might convince the film industry to do even more high fantasy stuff... much to rare getting high quality high fantasy.
I really doubt, that Hasbro would connect a bad result for the movie with the OGL.
I get being mad at Hasbro/WotC. But there were, probably, 100's of people who made that movie, who have nothing to do with the OGL or even TTRPGs. And certainly, all the work they did was before this controversy. It seems unfair to punish them as well. Writers, actors, directors, crew, they did nothing wrong.
Everyone should make their own choice, of course. And situations like this one will give people a lot to balance. Just, there's a lot more people than Wizards, here, who have livelihoods at stake. Not to mention, we might see the new OGL (or not, I don't believe there's been a timeline) before the movie even releases, which would give another data point to consider.
What point would you be making? You think suits at Hasbro/WotC are gonna be like "Whelp, the movie didn't do well, guess we'll go back to OGL 1.0 and drop all plans to monetize DnD..."
I actually hope the movie does well, showing that there ARE good ways to monetize the IP without pissing off their fan-base.
No, but the shareholders might see the lack of revenue as a good reason to sell Hasbro stock at a loss. Because the reason for the changes was to give profit to the shareholders, big losses say the company isn't worth the investment. And in this era of end phase Capitalism, that could kill a corporation like Hasbro, as they do not count as Too Big to fail.
I get being mad at Hasbro/WotC. But there were, probably, 100's of people who made that movie, who have nothing to do with the OGL or even TTRPGs. And certainly, all the work they did was before this controversy. It seems unfair to punish them as well. Writers, actors, directors, crew, they did nothing wrong.
Everyone should make their own choice, of course. And situations like this one will give people a lot to balance. Just, there's a lot more people than Wizards, here, who have livelihoods at stake. Not to mention, we might see the new OGL (or not, I don't believe there's been a timeline) before the movie even releases, which would give another data point to consider.
They've all been paid and are credited with a product with whatever quality they will have achieved. Cash paid for going to the movie is mostly a financial issue.
I get being mad at Hasbro/WotC. But there were, probably, 100's of people who made that movie, who have nothing to do with the OGL or even TTRPGs. And certainly, all the work they did was before this controversy. It seems unfair to punish them as well. Writers, actors, directors, crew, they did nothing wrong.
Everyone should make their own choice, of course. And situations like this one will give people a lot to balance. Just, there's a lot more people than Wizards, here, who have livelihoods at stake. Not to mention, we might see the new OGL (or not, I don't believe there's been a timeline) before the movie even releases, which would give another data point to consider.
They've all been paid and are credited with a product with whatever quality they will have achieved. Cash paid for going to the movie is mostly a financial issue.
Appearing in a movie that flops can end your career, even if the movie was good. So maybe they've been paid, but they still have a stake in the outcome. And residual checks can impact them for years to come.
I get being mad at Hasbro/WotC. But there were, probably, 100's of people who made that movie, who have nothing to do with the OGL or even TTRPGs. And certainly, all the work they did was before this controversy. It seems unfair to punish them as well. Writers, actors, directors, crew, they did nothing wrong.
Everyone should make their own choice, of course. And situations like this one will give people a lot to balance. Just, there's a lot more people than Wizards, here, who have livelihoods at stake. Not to mention, we might see the new OGL (or not, I don't believe there's been a timeline) before the movie even releases, which would give another data point to consider.
They've all been paid and are credited with a product with whatever quality they will have achieved. Cash paid for going to the movie is mostly a financial issue.
Appearing in a movie that flops can end your career, even if the movie was good. So maybe they've been paid, but they still have a stake in the outcome. And residual checks can impact them for years to come.
Oh, Dungeons & Dragons: Honour Among Thieves that (good or bad) movie that happened to have a backlash against it.
Hey, I like Chris Pine. I think he was a great Captain Kirk and liked him in Wonder Woman, but I'm not going to change my movie choices for issues that the casts can otherwise explain.
I want wotc to come forward with a reasuring and ironclad solution that gives 3rd party creators peace of mind and protection from this happening again. I want the hobby and game I love to thrive. But in the current turmoil and in its current hands it won't.
I want wotc to come forward with a reasuring and ironclad solution that gives 3rd party creators peace of mind and protection from this happening again. I want the hobby and game I love to thrive. But in the current turmoil and in its current hands it won't.
All WotC has to do is sign the ORC.
They don't need to do that in order to use it, if it's truly open.
I mean if you wanted to make a bigger statement, go to the theaters, hold signs to boycott the movie/WoTC in general over the issue and hope media catches wind.
Though I was planning on seeing it, but atm with the shit going on...looking unlikely. I'll take my money to see Puss in Boots if I want a "action" film.
They don't need the orc just need to make sure the new 2.0 or whatever has the same freedom of the 1.0a and is irrevocable. Updating to exclude NTFs and that I can understand it's all the bullshit they tried to get away with aginst 3rd parties creators to make a monopoly.
I mean if you wanted to make a bigger statement, go to the theaters, hold signs to boycott the movie/WoTC in general over the issue and hope media catches wind.
Though I was planning on seeing it, but atm with the shit going on...looking unlikely. I'll take my money to see Puss in Boots if I want a "action" film.
I mean, you could always wait for someone to provide it with auxiliary sources. Then, when it's public domain, you can watch to your heart's content.
It won't make a difference. WotC and Hasbro has already made their money after being paid to allow their trademarks and copyright to be licensed by the producer. Hasbro didn't even want the movie to be produced in the first place because they wanted to produce a different film with a different studio and tried to sue to get it to stop being developed but lost and were ordered to develop this one instead.
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How many will also be boycotting the dnd movie as well to make a point
What point would you be making? You think suits at Hasbro/WotC are gonna be like "Whelp, the movie didn't do well, guess we'll go back to OGL 1.0 and drop all plans to monetize DnD..."
I actually hope the movie does well, showing that there ARE good ways to monetize the IP without pissing off their fan-base.
I wasn't planning on seeing it anyway. Looked like a bad Marvel movie from phase 4.
Because all they understand is money and if they push 1.1 through close to how it was and still see profits increasing it will fortify the stance of they where right and don't need 3rd party. If they see a fear of there movie potentially not doing well because of the backlash it's a further point that they need there fan base and influences that are also largely creators.
I want wotc to come forward with a reasuring and ironclad solution that gives 3rd party creators peace of mind and protection from this happening again. I want the hobby and game I love to thrive. But in the current turmoil and in its current hands it won't.
I would hope, that the movie is actually good, and then, when it is doing well, it might convince the film industry to do even more high fantasy stuff... much to rare getting high quality high fantasy.
I really doubt, that Hasbro would connect a bad result for the movie with the OGL.
I've lost the incentive to watch it. If I di it would be on a ticket for another film.
I get being mad at Hasbro/WotC. But there were, probably, 100's of people who made that movie, who have nothing to do with the OGL or even TTRPGs. And certainly, all the work they did was before this controversy. It seems unfair to punish them as well. Writers, actors, directors, crew, they did nothing wrong.
Everyone should make their own choice, of course. And situations like this one will give people a lot to balance. Just, there's a lot more people than Wizards, here, who have livelihoods at stake. Not to mention, we might see the new OGL (or not, I don't believe there's been a timeline) before the movie even releases, which would give another data point to consider.
No, but the shareholders might see the lack of revenue as a good reason to sell Hasbro stock at a loss. Because the reason for the changes was to give profit to the shareholders, big losses say the company isn't worth the investment. And in this era of end phase Capitalism, that could kill a corporation like Hasbro, as they do not count as Too Big to fail.
They've all been paid and are credited with a product with whatever quality they will have achieved. Cash paid for going to the movie is mostly a financial issue.
Appearing in a movie that flops can end your career, even if the movie was good. So maybe they've been paid, but they still have a stake in the outcome. And residual checks can impact them for years to come.
Oh, Dungeons & Dragons: Honour Among Thieves that (good or bad) movie that happened to have a backlash against it.
Hey, I like Chris Pine. I think he was a great Captain Kirk and liked him in Wonder Woman, but I'm not going to change my movie choices for issues that the casts can otherwise explain.
Seriously?!?!? You might want to ask fans of Marvel comics how that turns out...
All WotC has to do is sign the ORC.
Billions of dollars and unmatched mainstream appeal, oh noes.
They don't need to do that in order to use it, if it's truly open.
I mean if you wanted to make a bigger statement, go to the theaters, hold signs to boycott the movie/WoTC in general over the issue and hope media catches wind.
Though I was planning on seeing it, but atm with the shit going on...looking unlikely. I'll take my money to see Puss in Boots if I want a "action" film.
This post is just funny
They don't need the orc just need to make sure the new 2.0 or whatever has the same freedom of the 1.0a and is irrevocable. Updating to exclude NTFs and that I can understand it's all the bullshit they tried to get away with aginst 3rd parties creators to make a monopoly.
I mean, you could always wait for someone to provide it with auxiliary sources. Then, when it's public domain, you can watch to your heart's content.
It won't make a difference. WotC and Hasbro has already made their money after being paid to allow their trademarks and copyright to be licensed by the producer. Hasbro didn't even want the movie to be produced in the first place because they wanted to produce a different film with a different studio and tried to sue to get it to stop being developed but lost and were ordered to develop this one instead.