I own a lot of current digital content, will these still be updated like they are now or will they stop updating them once the 2024 content gets published and hide the older content that you already own in an attempt to make you purchase the newer source material. I can say for certain that there will be a lot of unhappy owners of the digital content if they are no longer available and having you pay for updates because you cant get to your OWNED content.
Perhaps I didn't convey this properly. I own most content amiable in digital format. WOTC stated in numerous posts, videos, etc. that 5e will still be supported and have no timeline to re-release campaigns with updated rules. My question is "Since they are introducing an updated framework while still supporting 5e in its entirety, will they keep updating both for a period of time or will they force the owners of previous content to purchase the updated version by not making it available over a given time or grace period? In other words, will they have 2 player handbooks and 2 DMs guides, or will they simply update your digital copy to the new one? Like, I am seeing something like " We're sorry, this book is no longer available for download or viewing online, please purchase the updated version for $$, type deal. I just bought most of this stuff less than 11 months ago and spent a pretty penny on them only to see a shelf life of 1-2 yrs. I have seen this happen in other mediums so its not unheard of.
They haven't made detailed announcements. They have said they view these books as new books (as opposed to just errata). So, you will need to buy them to get access to their contents.
As far as the old books. That's where they've really not said much. Most of the speculation/assumption is that they'll put a "legacy" tag on those sources, much as they have with old monster books that were updated when Mordenkain's came out. If you have them, they'll still be available, but you won't be able to buy them any longer, just as happens any time a physical book has a new version published and the old one goes out of print. Though, as I said, that's mostly people guessing, but I may have missed a more concrete announcement.
And those legacy tags would likely only apply to the PHB, DMG and MM, as those are those only books they are updating, as of yet.
Agreed and thanks for your comments, both of you. I began playing D&D all the way back in 1980, original red box, basic rules. I played through until 1990. Took a 20 yr break, tried to pick it back up in 2010, only to find it in utter chaos and badly managed framework and rules...skip to 2022, where my new wife (she is a 2nd edition player) and stepdaughters expressed an interest in playing. Its the new age right, so I purchased all the content and they used their iPads to mange their characters, etc. Life is good, then another edition is coming, (Having played this long with so many versions, I would like to think that 5e is where it needs to be and should only expand like they were doing without trying to re-invent the wheel, again. I think WOTC was on the right track with this notion until just recently when it looks more and more like a revenue generator than anything else. I get it, they need to make money in order to keep it going. This is where I think they are missing the point. Expand the rules, stay the course, release more campaigns...convert older campaigns like Castle Amber (I know its been done but not by WOTC exclusively), Expedition to the barrier peaks, Inverness, etc.
Perhaps I didn't convey this properly. I own most content amiable in digital format. WOTC stated in numerous posts, videos, etc. that 5e will still be supported and have no timeline to re-release campaigns with updated rules. My question is "Since they are introducing an updated framework while still supporting 5e in its entirety, will they keep updating both for a period of time or will they force the owners of previous content to purchase the updated version by not making it available over a given time or grace period? In other words, will they have 2 player handbooks and 2 DMs guides, or will they simply update your digital copy to the new one? Like, I am seeing something like " We're sorry, this book is no longer available for download or viewing online, please purchase the updated version for $$, type deal. I just bought most of this stuff less than 11 months ago and spent a pretty penny on them only to see a shelf life of 1-2 yrs. I have seen this happen in other mediums so its not unheard of.
It has been stated several times that the 2014 version will still be around and if you want to have the new additional rules you will have to buy them separately.
Also, to be clear, you don't actually OWN anything here on DnD Beyond. What you have paid money for is a license to access content provided, that access is predicated on a number of factors, and that content can change at any time.
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It is not an update or errata to the existing core books. What follows is just my speculation. What will very likely happen is that the older versions will no longer be sold in the marketplace. Similar to how Volo's and Tome of Foes were marked as legacy, but still accessible to anyone who purchased them, the 2014 books will likely get the same treatment. In fact, they have already been marked as (2014).
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Also, the new books are still 5E, just updated rules. Some have taken to calling it 5.24 or 5.5E (like 3.5E), but WotC is only referencing them as 2024 Rulebooks for 5E. The new rules are supposed to be compatible with previously released 5E books and adventures.
Also, the new books are still 5E, just updated rules. Some have taken to calling it 5.24 or 5.5E (like 3.5E), but WotC is only referencing them as 2024 Rulebooks for 5E. The new rules are supposed to be compatible with previously released 5E books and adventures.
Those people are wrong and creating confusion. This is 5th edition. Period. Its a revision to character classes.
True. I can see using 5.24 (short for 5E 2024) as appropriate, but this is not a 5.5 edition, and WotC has been very clear on that. Why people continue to think otherwise is something I don't get.
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I own a lot of current digital content, will these still be updated like they are now or will they stop updating them once the 2024 content gets published and hide the older content that you already own in an attempt to make you purchase the newer source material. I can say for certain that there will be a lot of unhappy owners of the digital content if they are no longer available and having you pay for updates because you cant get to your OWNED content.
Perhaps I didn't convey this properly. I own most content amiable in digital format. WOTC stated in numerous posts, videos, etc. that 5e will still be supported and have no timeline to re-release campaigns with updated rules. My question is "Since they are introducing an updated framework while still supporting 5e in its entirety, will they keep updating both for a period of time or will they force the owners of previous content to purchase the updated version by not making it available over a given time or grace period? In other words, will they have 2 player handbooks and 2 DMs guides, or will they simply update your digital copy to the new one? Like, I am seeing something like " We're sorry, this book is no longer available for download or viewing online, please purchase the updated version for $$, type deal. I just bought most of this stuff less than 11 months ago and spent a pretty penny on them only to see a shelf life of 1-2 yrs. I have seen this happen in other mediums so its not unheard of.
They haven't made detailed announcements. They have said they view these books as new books (as opposed to just errata). So, you will need to buy them to get access to their contents.
As far as the old books. That's where they've really not said much. Most of the speculation/assumption is that they'll put a "legacy" tag on those sources, much as they have with old monster books that were updated when Mordenkain's came out. If you have them, they'll still be available, but you won't be able to buy them any longer, just as happens any time a physical book has a new version published and the old one goes out of print. Though, as I said, that's mostly people guessing, but I may have missed a more concrete announcement.
And those legacy tags would likely only apply to the PHB, DMG and MM, as those are those only books they are updating, as of yet.
Agreed and thanks for your comments, both of you. I began playing D&D all the way back in 1980, original red box, basic rules. I played through until 1990. Took a 20 yr break, tried to pick it back up in 2010, only to find it in utter chaos and badly managed framework and rules...skip to 2022, where my new wife (she is a 2nd edition player) and stepdaughters expressed an interest in playing. Its the new age right, so I purchased all the content and they used their iPads to mange their characters, etc. Life is good, then another edition is coming, (Having played this long with so many versions, I would like to think that 5e is where it needs to be and should only expand like they were doing without trying to re-invent the wheel, again. I think WOTC was on the right track with this notion until just recently when it looks more and more like a revenue generator than anything else. I get it, they need to make money in order to keep it going. This is where I think they are missing the point. Expand the rules, stay the course, release more campaigns...convert older campaigns like Castle Amber (I know its been done but not by WOTC exclusively), Expedition to the barrier peaks, Inverness, etc.
I mean why not just allow us to pay a small fee for the errata?
They said they'll update the SRD with all the new rules from these books though?
The small fee is the cost of the book.
It's not errata.
It has been stated several times that the 2014 version will still be around and if you want to have the new additional rules you will have to buy them separately.
Also, to be clear, you don't actually OWN anything here on DnD Beyond. What you have paid money for is a license to access content provided, that access is predicated on a number of factors, and that content can change at any time.
It is not an update or errata to the existing core books. What follows is just my speculation. What will very likely happen is that the older versions will no longer be sold in the marketplace. Similar to how Volo's and Tome of Foes were marked as legacy, but still accessible to anyone who purchased them, the 2014 books will likely get the same treatment. In fact, they have already been marked as (2014).
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Also, the new books are still 5E, just updated rules. Some have taken to calling it 5.24 or 5.5E (like 3.5E), but WotC is only referencing them as 2024 Rulebooks for 5E. The new rules are supposed to be compatible with previously released 5E books and adventures.
Those people are wrong and creating confusion. This is 5th edition. Period. Its a revision to character classes.
This is basically Tashas, but for the PHB.
True. I can see using 5.24 (short for 5E 2024) as appropriate, but this is not a 5.5 edition, and WotC has been very clear on that. Why people continue to think otherwise is something I don't get.