1) What the heck kind of campaign are you running that uses 200+ magic items and spells? Why wouldn't you stick to homebrewing just the few updated things you need, instead of trying to recreate/revert the entire 2014 book?...
I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
The lede you're saying people are burying does not exist. You made it up.
That's just objectively untrue. They posted this
"
Updating Tooltips and Game Materials in the Toolset
With the rules revision, we are updating game materials in the toolset and in tooltips to be in line with the 2024 Core Rulebooks. This change impacts the information you’ll find on your character sheet, in tooltips, and that is linked in the compendium.
Yeah, none of those things is changing in a materially relevant way. Again, you are making this up. This is why folks who call this "6e" are such troublemakers. It's the same damn ruleset. Not a single one of the rules changes is more significant than actual errata we've received over the years, and as has been pointed out before, when they errata books, you don't get to keep the original text like they're letting you do in this case.
While I wouldn't dream of speculating on the motivations of any specific individual, it's definitely true that a lot of the furor here is driven by the identity politics of a very selective group of users. There's no other way such easily disprovable lies as "new ruleset" would gain this much traction.
The lede you're saying people are burying does not exist. You made it up.
That's just objectively untrue. They posted this
"
Updating Tooltips and Game Materials in the Toolset
With the rules revision, we are updating game materials in the toolset and in tooltips to be in line with the 2024 Core Rulebooks. This change impacts the information you’ll find on your character sheet, in tooltips, and that is linked in the compendium.
Yeah, none of those things is changing in a materially relevant way. Again, you are making this up. This is why folks who call this "6e" are such troublemakers. It's the same damn ruleset. Not a single one of the rules changes is more significant than actual errata we've received over the years, and as has been pointed out before, when they errata books, you don't get to keep the original text like they're letting you do in this case.
While I wouldn't dream of speculating on the motivations of any specific individual, it's definitely true that a lot of the furor here is driven by the identity politics of a very selective group of users. There's no other way such easily disprovable lies as "new ruleset" would gain this much traction.
You have already moved your goalpost once now. Not gonna engage any further because your just gonna move it again.
I mean, I know you like to spin everything as a “wizards is evil” conspiracy for reasons… but the reality? You are still asking them to spend resources on a system that has no long-term future.
I’m glad they are choosing the option that doesn’t involve their wasting resources on a group of people who are never satisfied - and many of whom represent the worst parts of our community.
These are ad hominem attacks that do not address the arguments people are actually making in this thread. Rather what you're saying is essentially, "Bad people don't like this. Ergo it's fine."
It's also inaccurate. Personally the only thing I'd want to be happy is for them to leave my current material alone. If they just let the current spells/items work as they currently do I'd be a happy camper.
3) I am real. Should they have maintained support for their 4e character builder too because there are some angry people out there who happened to like it? Errata is errata and new versions are new versions.
I find that a bad comparison. IIRC the reason for the 4e builder to get taken down was because there was an underlying software change that would've taken a significant overhaul. In addition didn't the removal of the 4e builder happen some years after 5e was out? Plus 4e was not as widely adopted, with many moving on to Pathfinder, 5e, or sticking with 3/3.5e.
Whereas in the current situations 100% of people are using 5e and I'd hazard a significant majority will continue to use 5e instead of the new 5.5 ruleset for ongoing campaigns. Even among those planning to switch a large contingent at least want to finish out their current campaigns before doing so.
Yeah, none of those things is changing in a materially relevant way. Again, you are making this up. This is why folks who call this "6e" are such troublemakers. It's the same damn ruleset. Not a single one of the rules changes is more significant than actual errata we've received over the years, and as has been pointed out before, when they errata books, you don't get to keep the original text like they're letting you do in this case.
I find the errata comparison erroneous.
Errata deals with things like spelling issues or minor clarifications. The 5.5 rules by comparison overhaul quite a few things such as how classes work (or even when they get their subclasses), rules for actions like hiding and exhaustion, and spell/item changes. It's hard to argue the 5.5 versions of spells like True Strike and Conjure Elementals are merely errata when they completely change how those spells work.
1) What the heck kind of campaign are you running that uses 200+ magic items and spells? Why wouldn't you stick to homebrewing just the few updated things you need, instead of trying to recreate/revert the entire 2014 book?...
I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
They're not removing anything you paid for, all the content in your 2014 books is still accessible. As for the character creator, you didn't purchase that - it's a free service that you agreed to let them modify at will. What your subscription gets you is not access to the creator - it's unlimited character/encounter slots, the ability to share your books, and the ability to publish homebrew.
1) What the heck kind of campaign are you running that uses 200+ magic items and spells? Why wouldn't you stick to homebrewing just the few updated things you need, instead of trying to recreate/revert the entire 2014 book?...
I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
They're not removing anything you paid for, all the content in your 2014 books is still accessible. As for the character creator, you didn't purchase that - it's a free service that you agreed to let them modify at will. What your subscription gets you is not access to the creator - it's unlimited character/encounter slots, the ability to share your books, and the ability to publish homebrew.
WHAT IF I WANT TO USE THE 2014 VERSION OF A SPELL OR MAGIC ITEM?
If you wish to use the old version of a magic item or spell that has been replaced by its 2024 counterpart, you will need to create a homebrew copy of it and enable homebrew content on your character sheet. Then, you can add it to your character sheet.
It is not possible to create homebrew versions of mundane equipment. However, the only significant change to weapons is the addition of mastery properties. You will still need the appropriate feat or class feature to utilize a weapon’s mastery property. Mundane armor will not be affected by changes in the D&D Beyond toolset.
1) What the heck kind of campaign are you running that uses 200+ magic items and spells? Why wouldn't you stick to homebrewing just the few updated things you need, instead of trying to recreate/revert the entire 2014 book?...
I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
They're not removing anything you paid for, all the content in your 2014 books is still accessible. As for the character creator, you didn't purchase that - it's a free service that you agreed to let them modify at will. What your subscription gets you is not access to the creator - it's unlimited character/encounter slots, the ability to share your books, and the ability to publish homebrew.
Incorrect. Up until the new marketplace was introduced you could buy features specifically for the character builder. The compendium, or "book", was a seperate purchase (although you could obviously buy both together). I have most of the character builder content from the books up to Bigbys Giants, but I only purchased two or three compendiums. It was definitely advertised and sold as character builder content, and the vast majority of my "library" is just that.
As for the TOS, I think we're all aware that companies give you few if any rights to digital content these days, so what they've done is (probably) legal. That is very different from it being right. If a companies response is "Yes we're taking away all the stuff you bought, but it's not technically illegal so bugger off and stop complaining", they're not likely to have many customers for long.
1) What the heck kind of campaign are you running that uses 200+ magic items and spells? Why wouldn't you stick to homebrewing just the few updated things you need, instead of trying to recreate/revert the entire 2014 book?...
I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
They're not removing anything you paid for, all the content in your 2014 books is still accessible. As for the character creator, you didn't purchase that - it's a free service that you agreed to let them modify at will. What your subscription gets you is not access to the creator - it's unlimited character/encounter slots, the ability to share your books, and the ability to publish homebrew.
Incorrect. Up until the new marketplace was introduced you could buy features specifically for the character builder. The compendium, or "book", was a seperate purchase (although you could obviously buy both together). I have most of the character builder content from the books up to Bigbys Giants, but I only purchased two or three compendiums. It was definitely advertised and sold as character builder content, and the vast majority of my "library" is just that.
As for the TOS, I think we're all aware that companies give you few if any rights to digital content these days, so what they've done is (probably) legal. That is very different from it being right. If a companies response is "Yes we're taking away all the stuff you bought, but it's not technically illegal so bugger off and stop complaining", they're not likely to have many customers for long.
Their argument would hold more water if everyone who bought non-Compendium access was given a free upgrade to a book or was refunded the purchase to the non-Compendium items, but this idea that "nobody bought anything but books & you got to keep them" doesn't stand up to the simple scrutiny of my bank balance.
It would still be a bad move but at least this one deflection might have merit. Otherwise it's tiring to hear.
Personally the only thing I'd want to be happy is for them to leave my current material alone. If they just let the current spells/items work as they currently do I'd be a happy camper.
Again, you could make the same "leave my current material alone" argument about any errata (or rules update, if you prefer) they ever do in perpetuity. That's just not a realistic expectation for a service like this.
I find that a bad comparison. IIRC the reason for the 4e builder to get taken down was because there was an underlying software change that would've taken a significant overhaul. In addition didn't the removal of the 4e builder happen some years after 5e was out? Plus 4e was not as widely adopted, with many moving on to Pathfinder, 5e, or sticking with 3/3.5e.
This IS happening years after 5e was out. 10 years to be precise.
Errata deals with things like spelling issues or minor clarifications.
There have been much more substantial errata changes than this over 5e's life. Aura of Vitality anyone? Divine Smite? Sanctuary? Magical Secrets? The old versions of all of these are completely inaccessible on this site or in the character builder, your only recourse is having an old printing. What they're doing here is actually less sweeping than that, because your 2014 books are still there.
Incorrect. Up until the new marketplace was introduced you could buy features specifically for the character builder. The compendium, or "book", was a seperate purchase (although you could obviously buy both together).
The ability to buy features a la carte was not something you paid for either. The features themselves were, but the capability was entirely at their discretion (and there's other threads to complain about that in.)
1) What the heck kind of campaign are you running that uses 200+ magic items and spells? Why wouldn't you stick to homebrewing just the few updated things you need, instead of trying to recreate/revert the entire 2014 book?...
I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
They're not removing anything you paid for, all the content in your 2014 books is still accessible. As for the character creator, you didn't purchase that - it's a free service that you agreed to let them modify at will. What your subscription gets you is not access to the creator - it's unlimited character/encounter slots, the ability to share your books, and the ability to publish homebrew.
WHAT IF I WANT TO USE THE 2014 VERSION OF A SPELL OR MAGIC ITEM?
If you wish to use the old version of a magic item or spell that has been replaced by its 2024 counterpart, you will need to create a homebrew copy of it and enable homebrew content on your character sheet. Then, you can add it to your character sheet.
It is not possible to create homebrew versions of mundane equipment. However, the only significant change to weapons is the addition of mastery properties. You will still need the appropriate feat or class feature to utilize a weapon’s mastery property. Mundane armor will not be affected by changes in the D&D Beyond toolset.
I did read that. Did you read this part?
You will not lose access to the Basic Rules or to your copies of the 2014 Player’s Handbook, Dungeon Master’s Guide, or Monster Manual.
Open the relevant 2014 book and the spells/magic items will be right there.
No surprise to see the usual villains in here making excuses for WotC's horrible decision, all the while gas-lighting others into thinking they're the ones with the attitude problem.
Incorrect. Up until the new marketplace was introduced you could buy features specifically for the character builder. The compendium, or "book", was a seperate purchase (although you could obviously buy both together).
The ability to buy features a la carte was not something you paid for either. The features themselves were, but the capability was entirely at their discretion (and there's other threads to complain about that in.)
I'm not talking about the loss of a la carte. I'm saying I paid for character builder features, and those features are now being removed. The fact that I can still look them up in the compendium is irrelevant. If I wanted that I'd have just bought the compendium, or just gone to my bookcase where I have the physical book.
As for your other comments about this just being "errata", WotC have been emphatic that the 2024 rules are not errata, nor are they a new version. They have repeatedly told us that everything will be compatible and we can continue to use the 2014 rules. Whichever way you want to look at it, that was a lie. If they intended it as errata they should have said so months ago.
I'm not talking about the loss of a la carte. I'm saying I paid for character builder features, and those features are now being removed.
And I'm saying you didn't. The character builder had the same ability to access any of your books even if you don't subscribe. The specific features you want it to find might be not be available, but you still didn't pay for them.
THIS is what you're paying for:
There's nothing in that list about the character builder and what it can access.
As for your other comments about this just being "errata", WotC have been emphatic that the 2024 rules are not errata, nor are they a new version.
I know it's not literally errata, it's called an analogy. The underlying mechanics of "this was a version of the rules I used to be able to access through the tool and now they're no longer accessible that way because the devs don't want them to be" are the same, and that's not a foreign concept.
I'm not talking about the loss of a la carte. I'm saying I paid for character builder features, and those features are now being removed.
And I'm saying you didn't. The character builder had the same ability to access any of your books even if you don't subscribe. The specific features you want it to find might be not be available, but you still didn't pay for them.
THIS is what you're paying for:
There's nothing in that list about the character builder and what it can access.
Subscriptions and what they offer are completely irrelevant when discussing the features of purchasing digital books on DDB, of which a major selling point is ease of use in the character builder.
I'm not talking about the loss of a la carte. I'm saying I paid for character builder features, and those features are now being removed.
And I'm saying you didn't. The character builder had the same ability to access any of your books even if you don't subscribe. The specific features you want it to find might be not be available, but you still didn't pay for them.
THIS is what you're paying for:
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There's nothing in that list about the character builder and what it can access.
Why are you linking to the subscription details? The character builder itself is a free service, nothing to do with subscriptions. I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Unless your arguement is that because the builder isn't specifically part of our subscription it's ok to delete all our purchases from it? That would be a bizarre take on the issue, and completely misses the point of why people are complaining.
As for your other comments about this just being "errata", WotC have been emphatic that the 2024 rules are not errata, nor are they a new version.
I know it's not literally errata, it's called an analogy. The underlying mechanics of "this was a version of the rules I used to be able to access through the tool and now they're no longer accessible that way because the devs don't want them to be" are the same, and that's not a foreign concept.
Marking features as "legacy content" but leaving them available to use is not a foreign concept either, they've not only done it with past updates, but in fact it's what they are doing for subclasses and races right now. There's no reason they can't do it for everything else, other than they've decided not to.
I don't understand why you think treating some of the rules as "errata" and replacing them is the only logical and expected course of action.
Personally the only thing I'd want to be happy is for them to leave my current material alone. If they just let the current spells/items work as they currently do I'd be a happy camper.
Again, you could make the same "leave my current material alone" argument about any errata (or rules update, if you prefer) they ever do in perpetuity. That's just not a realistic expectation for a service like this.
I find that a bad comparison. IIRC the reason for the 4e builder to get taken down was because there was an underlying software change that would've taken a significant overhaul. In addition didn't the removal of the 4e builder happen some years after 5e was out? Plus 4e was not as widely adopted, with many moving on to Pathfinder, 5e, or sticking with 3/3.5e.
This IS happening years after 5e was out. 10 years to be precise.
Errata deals with things like spelling issues or minor clarifications.
There have been much more substantial errata changes than this over 5e's life. Aura of Vitality anyone? Divine Smite? Sanctuary? Magical Secrets? The old versions of all of these are completely inaccessible on this site or in the character builder, your only recourse is having an old printing. What they're doing here is actually less sweeping than that, because your 2014 books are still there.
Incorrect. Up until the new marketplace was introduced you could buy features specifically for the character builder. The compendium, or "book", was a seperate purchase (although you could obviously buy both together).
The ability to buy features a la carte was not something you paid for either. The features themselves were, but the capability was entirely at their discretion (and there's other threads to complain about that in.)
Respectfully wizbro needs to pick a lane is this errata, or a new edition. Riding the fence is unacceptable when it comes to breaking current games to sell unwanted books
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I find that a bad comparison. IIRC the reason for the 4e builder to get taken down was because there was an underlying software change that would've taken a significant overhaul. In addition didn't the removal of the 4e builder happen some years after 5e was out? Plus 4e was not as widely adopted, with many moving on to Pathfinder, 5e, or sticking with 3/3.5e.
This IS happening years after 5e was out. 10 years to be precise.
I'll also mention that this is missing the point of the comparison.
From what I gathered elsewhere, the service for the builder continued to be available for new subscriptions for about a year and a half after the release of 5e. In addition, even after it discontinued new subscribers it continued to run until Microsoft's discontinuation of Silverlight broke the service.
That's very different from the current situation. No underlying 3rd party software is ending that's forcing WotC to make a change. It's a discontinuation of already-coded service they currently have. This change is also very sudden to be announced while even people that are planning to switch would still want to use the current 5.0 rules for their ongoing campaigns before swapping to 5.5 rules.
I'm assuming the switchover for this will be 3rd September, when Master Tier subs get early access. Which means they're discontinuing the current service 2 weeks before the new one is officially released.
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I purchased both, I want both. For them to remove what I paid money for leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As the DM I have just purchased the new regardless of what it was, just so my players have options. I also turn off "Homebrew" until such time it's unavoidable, as many "Homebrew" Items, spells, and other things are down right broken, and I don't want to police my players every choice with Homebrew options.
Yeah, none of those things is changing in a materially relevant way. Again, you are making this up. This is why folks who call this "6e" are such troublemakers. It's the same damn ruleset. Not a single one of the rules changes is more significant than actual errata we've received over the years, and as has been pointed out before, when they errata books, you don't get to keep the original text like they're letting you do in this case.
While I wouldn't dream of speculating on the motivations of any specific individual, it's definitely true that a lot of the furor here is driven by the identity politics of a very selective group of users. There's no other way such easily disprovable lies as "new ruleset" would gain this much traction.
You have already moved your goalpost once now. Not gonna engage any further because your just gonna move it again.
These are ad hominem attacks that do not address the arguments people are actually making in this thread. Rather what you're saying is essentially, "Bad people don't like this. Ergo it's fine."
It's also inaccurate. Personally the only thing I'd want to be happy is for them to leave my current material alone. If they just let the current spells/items work as they currently do I'd be a happy camper.
I find that a bad comparison. IIRC the reason for the 4e builder to get taken down was because there was an underlying software change that would've taken a significant overhaul. In addition didn't the removal of the 4e builder happen some years after 5e was out? Plus 4e was not as widely adopted, with many moving on to Pathfinder, 5e, or sticking with 3/3.5e.
Whereas in the current situations 100% of people are using 5e and I'd hazard a significant majority will continue to use 5e instead of the new 5.5 ruleset for ongoing campaigns. Even among those planning to switch a large contingent at least want to finish out their current campaigns before doing so.
I find the errata comparison erroneous.
Errata deals with things like spelling issues or minor clarifications. The 5.5 rules by comparison overhaul quite a few things such as how classes work (or even when they get their subclasses), rules for actions like hiding and exhaustion, and spell/item changes. It's hard to argue the 5.5 versions of spells like True Strike and Conjure Elementals are merely errata when they completely change how those spells work.
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They're not removing anything you paid for, all the content in your 2014 books is still accessible. As for the character creator, you didn't purchase that - it's a free service that you agreed to let them modify at will. What your subscription gets you is not access to the creator - it's unlimited character/encounter slots, the ability to share your books, and the ability to publish homebrew.
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Wrong read their update page: https://www.dndbeyond.com/changelog#UpdatingtheDDBeyondToolsetforthe2024CoreRulebooks
Incorrect. Up until the new marketplace was introduced you could buy features specifically for the character builder. The compendium, or "book", was a seperate purchase (although you could obviously buy both together). I have most of the character builder content from the books up to Bigbys Giants, but I only purchased two or three compendiums. It was definitely advertised and sold as character builder content, and the vast majority of my "library" is just that.
As for the TOS, I think we're all aware that companies give you few if any rights to digital content these days, so what they've done is (probably) legal. That is very different from it being right. If a companies response is "Yes we're taking away all the stuff you bought, but it's not technically illegal so bugger off and stop complaining", they're not likely to have many customers for long.
Their argument would hold more water if everyone who bought non-Compendium access was given a free upgrade to a book or was refunded the purchase to the non-Compendium items, but this idea that "nobody bought anything but books & you got to keep them" doesn't stand up to the simple scrutiny of my bank balance.
It would still be a bad move but at least this one deflection might have merit. Otherwise it's tiring to hear.
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Again, you could make the same "leave my current material alone" argument about any errata (or rules update, if you prefer) they ever do in perpetuity. That's just not a realistic expectation for a service like this.
This IS happening years after 5e was out. 10 years to be precise.
There have been much more substantial errata changes than this over 5e's life. Aura of Vitality anyone? Divine Smite? Sanctuary? Magical Secrets? The old versions of all of these are completely inaccessible on this site or in the character builder, your only recourse is having an old printing. What they're doing here is actually less sweeping than that, because your 2014 books are still there.
The ability to buy features a la carte was not something you paid for either. The features themselves were, but the capability was entirely at their discretion (and there's other threads to complain about that in.)
I did read that. Did you read this part?
Open the relevant 2014 book and the spells/magic items will be right there.
No surprise to see the usual villains in here making excuses for WotC's horrible decision, all the while gas-lighting others into thinking they're the ones with the attitude problem.
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I'm not talking about the loss of a la carte. I'm saying I paid for character builder features, and those features are now being removed. The fact that I can still look them up in the compendium is irrelevant. If I wanted that I'd have just bought the compendium, or just gone to my bookcase where I have the physical book.
As for your other comments about this just being "errata", WotC have been emphatic that the 2024 rules are not errata, nor are they a new version. They have repeatedly told us that everything will be compatible and we can continue to use the 2014 rules. Whichever way you want to look at it, that was a lie. If they intended it as errata they should have said so months ago.
And I'm saying you didn't. The character builder had the same ability to access any of your books even if you don't subscribe. The specific features you want it to find might be not be available, but you still didn't pay for them.
THIS is what you're paying for:
There's nothing in that list about the character builder and what it can access.
I know it's not literally errata, it's called an analogy. The underlying mechanics of "this was a version of the rules I used to be able to access through the tool and now they're no longer accessible that way because the devs don't want them to be" are the same, and that's not a foreign concept.
Subscriptions and what they offer are completely irrelevant when discussing the features of purchasing digital books on DDB, of which a major selling point is ease of use in the character builder.
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Why are you linking to the subscription details? The character builder itself is a free service, nothing to do with subscriptions. I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Unless your arguement is that because the builder isn't specifically part of our subscription it's ok to delete all our purchases from it? That would be a bizarre take on the issue, and completely misses the point of why people are complaining.
Marking features as "legacy content" but leaving them available to use is not a foreign concept either, they've not only done it with past updates, but in fact it's what they are doing for subclasses and races right now. There's no reason they can't do it for everything else, other than they've decided not to.
I don't understand why you think treating some of the rules as "errata" and replacing them is the only logical and expected course of action.
Respectfully wizbro needs to pick a lane is this errata, or a new edition. Riding the fence is unacceptable when it comes to breaking current games to sell unwanted books
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I'll also mention that this is missing the point of the comparison.
From what I gathered elsewhere, the service for the builder continued to be available for new subscriptions for about a year and a half after the release of 5e. In addition, even after it discontinued new subscribers it continued to run until Microsoft's discontinuation of Silverlight broke the service.
That's very different from the current situation. No underlying 3rd party software is ending that's forcing WotC to make a change. It's a discontinuation of already-coded service they currently have. This change is also very sudden to be announced while even people that are planning to switch would still want to use the current 5.0 rules for their ongoing campaigns before swapping to 5.5 rules.
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Talorin Tebedi, Vecna: Eve | Cherry, Stormwreck | Chipper, Strahd
We Are Modron
Get rickrolled here. Awesome music here. Track 48, 5/23/25, Immaculate Mary
I'm assuming the switchover for this will be 3rd September, when Master Tier subs get early access. Which means they're discontinuing the current service 2 weeks before the new one is officially released.