I'm assuming the switchover for this will be 3rd September, when Master Tier subs get early access. Which means they're discontinuing the current service 2 weeks before the new one is officially released.
And we have less than two weeks, with Labor Day weekend right in the middle of it, to key in these homebrews they are suggesting. I don't know about everyone else, but this majorly impacts me. I have plans for Aug. 29th through Sept 5th that won't allow me to do any of that homebrewing they are recommending. They really should've informed folks of this a month or more ago that this was happening in order to give them time to make any changes relevant to their characters. They also aren't very clear about what is happening to spells that DIDN'T make it into the 2024 edition. Are they becoming Legacy as well, or being outright deleted?...
I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Yes, you still can - by homebrewing a copy of it once, as they stated in that very article.
If you feel strongly that going that route invalidates your $8, I would contact Customer Service. But now that you mention it, I'm willing to bet this complaint is one of the reasons they deactivated a la carte purchases in the first place - so that people wouldn't spend $2 on a spell, have the original version altered in a design update of some kind, and head to the forums in a fury.
Marking features as "legacy content" but leaving them available to use is not a foreign concept either, they've not only done it with past updates, but in fact it's what they are doing for subclasses and races right now. There's no reason they can't do it for everything else, other than they've decided not to.
I don't understand why you think treating some of the rules as "errata" and replacing them is the only logical and expected course of action.
Homebrewing a subclass is a much more substantial burden than homebrewing a spell, and homebrewing an entire class is currently unsupported. So it makes sense they would go out of their way to accommodate people who want to cling to those. A spell though, even several of them, is not an unreasonable ask.
Making every single person playing a spellcaster and using DDB character sheet to have to homebrew their spells is a tremendous burden on the community, a horribly ineffecient duplication of effort, and will consume exponentially more space in their database than if they simply added a Legacy tag to existing spells and a 2014/2024 toggle for the character sheet.
Let's face it, I doubt even 1 in 5 current players had planned on switching to 2024 anytime soon.
I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Yes, you still can - by homebrewing a copy of it once, as they stated in that very article.
If you feel strongly that going that route invalidates your $8, I would contact Customer Service.
I'd expect most of the Xanathar's spells to remain unchanged.
For whatever reason, they're not legacying spells, just replacing them outright with the new-PHB versions.
But that's only going to apply to the spells that got new versions in the PHB. This is largely, though not entirely, the spells from the old PHB.
Marking features as "legacy content" but leaving them available to use is not a foreign concept either, they've not only done it with past updates, but in fact it's what they are doing for subclasses and races right now. There's no reason they can't do it for everything else, other than they've decided not to.
I don't understand why you think treating some of the rules as "errata" and replacing them is the only logical and expected course of action.
Homebrewing a subclass is a much more substantial burden than homebrewing a spell, and homebrewing an entire class is currently unsupported. So it makes sense they would go out of their way to accommodate people who want to cling to those. A spell though, even several of them, is not an unreasonable ask.
It is, at the minimum, weirdly inconsistent with how they've handled everything else, with how they've presented the transition, and with their business model here. (Due to the SRD, I suppose the business model part is arguable, but they still want to sell the updates.)
Which is why I think it's got to be a technical limitation, and "replace them all and make people homebrew it" is probably the best they can do. Which doesn't make it not an imposition on their customers.
Edit: since it's specifically spells and items, I suspect the culprit is the parts of the character sheet that let you manage them. I couldn't say what the problem is.
Making every single person playing a spellcaster and using DDB character sheet to have to homebrew their spells is a tremendous burden on the community, a horribly ineffecient duplication of effort, and will consume exponentially more space in their database than if they simply added a Legacy tag to existing spells and a 2014/2024 toggle for the character sheet.
Let's face it, I doubt even 1 in 5 current players had planned on switching to 2024 anytime soon.
Again, the vast majority of spells won't need to be homebrewed. You can just pull up your 2014 books and the old text will still be there, unchanged, for you to read to your DM.
Literally the only things you might want to homebrew for the builder are spells that meet these criteria: (a) changed in the PHB update, (b) use attack/damage rolls., (c) where you prefer the old version for some reason, and (d) that your character is actively using in that campaign. That's a subset of a subset of a subset of a subset.
Making every single person playing a spellcaster and using DDB character sheet to have to homebrew their spells is a tremendous burden on the community, a horribly ineffecient duplication of effort, and will consume exponentially more space in their database than if they simply added a Legacy tag to existing spells and a 2014/2024 toggle for the character sheet.
Let's face it, I doubt even 1 in 5 current players had planned on switching to 2024 anytime soon.
Again, the vast majority of spells won't need to be homebrewed. You can just pull up your 2014 books and the old text will still be there, unchanged, for you to read to your DM.
Literally the only things you might want to homebrew for the builder are spells that meet these criteria: (a) changed in the PHB update, (b) use attack/damage rolls., (c) where you prefer the old version for some reason, and (d) that your character is actively using in that campaign. That's a subset of a subset of a subset of a subset.
The big reason to own DDB content is to use it in the character sheet.
That does mean you need to homebrew a bunch. Particularly since from what's been said, it won't even be as easy as the current copy-spell when the 5.5 PHB hits. That's a lot of spells to go through the homebrew creator for.
If people just wanted to pull up a book and read the text, why buy on DDB?
The character builder itself is a free service, nothing to do with subscriptions.
Yes, that's the point I've been making. That's the only thing you pay for here that you've lost
True, but the point missed is many wouldn't have spent a bent copper on this site if the content bought didn't work in the character builder! If purchased content can be removed from that tool why pay for anything on this site?
The big reason to own DDB content is to use it in the character sheet.
That does mean you need to homebrew a bunch.
Again, "use it on the character sheet" only matters for attack and damage/healing rolls as I stated. If you cast, say, Charm Person or Forcecage or Commune with Nature from your character sheet, the sheet isn't actually doing anything, so just have a second browser tab open with the 2014 description.
I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Yes, you still can - by homebrewing a copy of it once, as they stated in that very article.
If you feel strongly that going that route invalidates your $8, I would contact Customer Service. But now that you mention it, I'm willing to bet this complaint is one of the reasons they deactivated a la carte purchases in the first place - so that people wouldn't spend $2 on a spell, have the original version altered in a design update of some kind, and head to the forums in a fury.
Again, I did not pay for the character builder. No-one pays for the character builder. The character builder is free to use with the basic rules. What I paid for was to unlock certain features within the character builder, features that are now being removed. The fact that I can homebrew my own version is irrelevant as I could do that anyway without a purchase.
As for your comment about the cost, at what price point do you feel it is ok to complain about purchases being revoked? The $8 was just an example, overall I've spent a few $100 on this site, and I'd guess that most people posting will have paid more than that. I don't know why you think we should be fine with all those purchases disappearing?
Marking features as "legacy content" but leaving them available to use is not a foreign concept either, they've not only done it with past updates, but in fact it's what they are doing for subclasses and races right now. There's no reason they can't do it for everything else, other than they've decided not to.
I don't understand why you think treating some of the rules as "errata" and replacing them is the only logical and expected course of action.
Homebrewing a subclass is a much more substantial burden than homebrewing a spell, and homebrewing an entire class is currently unsupported. So it makes sense they would go out of their way to accommodate people who want to cling to those. A spell though, even several of them, is not an unreasonable ask.
For one, we're going to have to homebrew some of the subclasses anyway if we want them to give the old/homebrew versions of spells. Secondly do you really think it's more reasonable to ask hundreds of players to homebrew all their spells, rather than just setting up a legacy option like they have elsewhere? If you do, why would anyone buy anything on DnDBeyond as they can just homebrew it themselves in the free character builder.
I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Yes, you still can - by homebrewing a copy of it once, as they stated in that very article.
If you feel strongly that going that route invalidates your $8, I would contact Customer Service.
I'd expect most of the Xanathar's spells to remain unchanged.
For whatever reason, they're not legacying spells, just replacing them outright with the new-PHB versions.
But that's only going to apply to the spells that got new versions in the PHB. This is largely, though not entirely, the spells from the old PHB.
Maybe Xanathar's is a bad example, I've not looked at exactly which spells are being replaced in the new PHB. There's certainly a lot from Tasha's (like all the Summon spells) and at least a few from Xanathars though. My point was more that items I've purchased will no longer be available to me. The spell pack from the PHB would be a better example, but I didn't want a response of "that's obsolete" (even though we've been told it isn't).
Marking features as "legacy content" but leaving them available to use is not a foreign concept either, they've not only done it with past updates, but in fact it's what they are doing for subclasses and races right now. There's no reason they can't do it for everything else, other than they've decided not to.
I don't understand why you think treating some of the rules as "errata" and replacing them is the only logical and expected course of action.
Homebrewing a subclass is a much more substantial burden than homebrewing a spell, and homebrewing an entire class is currently unsupported. So it makes sense they would go out of their way to accommodate people who want to cling to those. A spell though, even several of them, is not an unreasonable ask.
It is, at the minimum, weirdly inconsistent with how they've handled everything else, with how they've presented the transition, and with their business model here. (Due to the SRD, I suppose the business model part is arguable, but they still want to sell the updates.)
Which is why I think it's got to be a technical limitation, and "replace them all and make people homebrew it" is probably the best they can do. Which doesn't make it not an imposition on their customers.
Edit: since it's specifically spells and items, I suspect the culprit is the parts of the character sheet that let you manage them. I couldn't say what the problem is.
It'll only be a technical limitation in the sense of "we don't want to pay for it" (or I suppose "we laid off all the developers that could have done it"). The system must already have filters so that the character sheet only displays spells relevant to your class\subclass etc. Adding a "legacy" filter will obvious require some time\cost, but shouldn't be that difficult, and if the code's such a mess that that's not possible then they should really be looking to fix the code anyway, at which point this could be added. Nor should it be difficult to have two copies of the character sheet, one that references 2014 rules and one that references 2024 rules, controlled by a toggle in the character options. At the end of the day a lot of people pay subscriptions at least in part to pay for maintenance and update of the online tools, and the cost of digital books is (quite rightly) justified as paying for the same. It's not much to ask that they actually fix things so that we can keep the features we've paid for and been promised we can keep.
True, but the point missed is many wouldn't have spent a bent copper on this site if the content bought didn't work in the character builder! If purchased content can be removed from that tool why pay for anything on this site?
It does work in the character builder! The spells have the same damn name! And if it's the old-ass text you care about, most browsers let you do this thing where you can have more than one page open at the same time.
True, but the point missed is many wouldn't have spent a bent copper on this site if the content bought didn't work in the character builder! If purchased content can be removed from that tool why pay for anything on this site?
It does work in the character builder! The spells have the same damn name! And if it's the old-ass text you care about, most browsers let you do this thing where you can have more than one page open at the same time.
I'm in 3 campaigns (currently not DMing any myself), all 3 DMs have said today that they will not be using ANY 2024 content in their campaigns. Since every DDB character sheet will be updated to 2024 jargon/ruleset - even if you continue to use 2014 subclasses, there's simply no point to continuing to use DnD Beyond. It's faster to look up stuff in a physical book, than to navigate thru their website to find rules/items/spells in their digital format.
The whole point of DDB was to automatically pull in purchased content into character sheets, that updated in real-time, and allowed the player (characters) and DM (NPCs) to have everything at your mouse-pointer without having to go searching for it.
For anyone who didn't plan on converting to 2024 right away, we no longer have any reason to keep paying for DND Beyond.
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No. I paid for the 2014 edition. I own that content, in perpetuity (a world WotC had to be schooled on with OGL, and which they apparently haven't learned a damned thing about since).
If DDB removes access to the 2024 content, including character creation and maintenance, they are removing access to what I paid for. And the more I hear about 2024, the less interesting it is to me.
I want uninterrupted access to what I paid for, and which is mine. DDB will either continue to give me access to that content, including the tools built around that content which was a selling point of the content, or they will refund every penny. Small Claims if they don't, and we'll see how they manage to defend a shaky contract/license that already has nonenforceable clauses in my state in a venue where lawyers are forbidden.
No. I paid for the 2014 edition. I own that content, in perpetuity (a world WotC had to be schooled on with OGL, and which they apparently haven't learned a damned thing about since).
If DDB removes access to the 2024 content, including character creation and maintenance, they are removing access to what I paid for. And the more I hear about 2024, the less interesting it is to me.
I want uninterrupted access to what I paid for, and which is mine. DDB will either continue to give me access to that content, including the tools built around that content which was a selling point of the content, or they will refund every penny. Small Claims if they don't, and we'll see how they manage to defend a shaky contract/license that already has nonenforceable clauses in my state in a venue where lawyers are forbidden.
You are getting the content you paid for; you paid for access to the entries on D&DB. That is being maintained. The integration of the entries with the character sheets hosted by D&DB is a free service they provide alongside the paid service of providing electronic versions of the 5e books. The subscription options for the character sheets essentially cover how many sheets you can have active, the ability to apply homebrew to them, and the ability to share purchased content with other users. Note that integration of purchased content does not appear anywhere on that list.
Personally I would prefer if the integration had been maintained, but there is objectively no leg to stand on that you are suffering damages or being denied any service you paid for. You purchased the right to view certain entries on this site. That right is being maintained.
No. I paid for the 2014 edition. I own that content, in perpetuity (a world WotC had to be schooled on with OGL, and which they apparently haven't learned a damned thing about since).
If DDB removes access to the 2024 content, including character creation and maintenance, they are removing access to what I paid for. And the more I hear about 2024, the less interesting it is to me.
I want uninterrupted access to what I paid for, and which is mine. DDB will either continue to give me access to that content, including the tools built around that content which was a selling point of the content, or they will refund every penny. Small Claims if they don't, and we'll see how they manage to defend a shaky contract/license that already has nonenforceable clauses in my state in a venue where lawyers are forbidden.
This might be an awkward time to bring up the Arbitration clause you also agreed to...
No. I paid for the 2014 edition. I own that content, in perpetuity (a world WotC had to be schooled on with OGL, and which they apparently haven't learned a damned thing about since).
If DDB removes access to the 2024 content, including character creation and maintenance, they are removing access to what I paid for. And the more I hear about 2024, the less interesting it is to me.
I want uninterrupted access to what I paid for, and which is mine. DDB will either continue to give me access to that content, including the tools built around that content which was a selling point of the content, or they will refund every penny. Small Claims if they don't, and we'll see how they manage to defend a shaky contract/license that already has nonenforceable clauses in my state in a venue where lawyers are forbidden.
This might be an awkward time to bring up the Arbitration clause you also agreed to...
why are you defending them? they are taking the stuff people saw and agreed to pay for for whatever slop they want to throw at us. sure you may not care about being forced to homebrew all the stuff you paid for and use back but others dont want to or have that time
(also if i made a misunderstanding then my bad lol still kinda seeing red about these changes)
If I were in Wizards’ shoes, I would take the sledgehammer approach also - it is the easiest option for supporting new players and, supporting new players is a far better use of resources than trying to appease people who are disinclined to buy your future products.
Do bear in mind that one if the ways you get future payers is by not ticking off your current base.
For example I'd been considering purchasing Xanathar's and Tasha's down the line. Part of that being spells and magic items in them being pre-coded for ease of use.
But now I'm looking at it like, "If they're just going to remove some of those reasons for buying the books. Then why?"
We've already been through this with errata. The number of people who are ticked off by the digital tools they are paying to be automatically kept up to date being automatically kept up to date is negligible.
This is not eratta, this is the spells are gone unless you homebrew them back or buy the new book.
Considering how piecemeal went, I expect this is how they are going to remove content that has been paid for to force people to buy the new books in the future.
It is theft, it may be legal theft, but theft just the same.
With errata, the old content is gone - Wizards scrubs the old content from the system and replaces it with the new. Here, your old information stays - and you can easily recreate it into your game with a few clicks of a button. The effect is akin to errata - the new version controls - but, in another way, it is even less “theft” than errata would be. Really not sure why people would accept errata… but throw a hissy fit over something that is even less invasive to them
The reality is that this is a non-issue that you are trying to turn into an issue.
the problem with this is people who paid for their stuff shouldnt be forced to "easily recreate" their spells they are using. no one asked them to do this and no one likes the changes by having all of their old paid for content stolen from them.
I'm talking about the features I have bought from various books. When I paid $8 for the spells from Xanathars, what exactly do you think I was purchasing? Because whatever that was I can no longer use it.
Yes, you still can - by homebrewing a copy of it once, as they stated in that very article.
If you feel strongly that going that route invalidates your $8, I would contact Customer Service. But now that you mention it, I'm willing to bet this complaint is one of the reasons they deactivated a la carte purchases in the first place - so that people wouldn't spend $2 on a spell, have the original version altered in a design update of some kind, and head to the forums in a fury.
That is a lot of homebrew copying to do. I am taking a break from it for the night, and while it is easy to do, it is still a pain in the ass to go through so many.
If we know which spells and magic items are not changing, it would save us a lot of effort and time. Since we do not know, I am going to assume everything is changing and I am copying everything, or at least try to. I can handle copying all the spells, but I am not so sure about the magic items, as that is at least several times longer than the spell list.
And we have less than two weeks, with Labor Day weekend right in the middle of it, to key in these homebrews they are suggesting. I don't know about everyone else, but this majorly impacts me. I have plans for Aug. 29th through Sept 5th that won't allow me to do any of that homebrewing they are recommending. They really should've informed folks of this a month or more ago that this was happening in order to give them time to make any changes relevant to their characters. They also aren't very clear about what is happening to spells that DIDN'T make it into the 2024 edition. Are they becoming Legacy as well, or being outright deleted?...
You will own nothing and be happy, this was well planned and I hope it gets rolled back!
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Yes, that's the point I've been making. That's the only thing you pay for here that you've lost.
Yes, you still can - by homebrewing a copy of it once, as they stated in that very article.
If you feel strongly that going that route invalidates your $8, I would contact Customer Service. But now that you mention it, I'm willing to bet this complaint is one of the reasons they deactivated a la carte purchases in the first place - so that people wouldn't spend $2 on a spell, have the original version altered in a design update of some kind, and head to the forums in a fury.
Homebrewing a subclass is a much more substantial burden than homebrewing a spell, and homebrewing an entire class is currently unsupported. So it makes sense they would go out of their way to accommodate people who want to cling to those. A spell though, even several of them, is not an unreasonable ask.
Making every single person playing a spellcaster and using DDB character sheet to have to homebrew their spells is a tremendous burden on the community, a horribly ineffecient duplication of effort, and will consume exponentially more space in their database than if they simply added a Legacy tag to existing spells and a 2014/2024 toggle for the character sheet.
Let's face it, I doubt even 1 in 5 current players had planned on switching to 2024 anytime soon.
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I'd expect most of the Xanathar's spells to remain unchanged.
For whatever reason, they're not legacying spells, just replacing them outright with the new-PHB versions.
But that's only going to apply to the spells that got new versions in the PHB. This is largely, though not entirely, the spells from the old PHB.
It is, at the minimum, weirdly inconsistent with how they've handled everything else, with how they've presented the transition, and with their business model here. (Due to the SRD, I suppose the business model part is arguable, but they still want to sell the updates.)
Which is why I think it's got to be a technical limitation, and "replace them all and make people homebrew it" is probably the best they can do. Which doesn't make it not an imposition on their customers.
Edit: since it's specifically spells and items, I suspect the culprit is the parts of the character sheet that let you manage them. I couldn't say what the problem is.
Again, the vast majority of spells won't need to be homebrewed. You can just pull up your 2014 books and the old text will still be there, unchanged, for you to read to your DM.
Literally the only things you might want to homebrew for the builder are spells that meet these criteria: (a) changed in the PHB update, (b) use attack/damage rolls., (c) where you prefer the old version for some reason, and (d) that your character is actively using in that campaign. That's a subset of a subset of a subset of a subset.
The big reason to own DDB content is to use it in the character sheet.
That does mean you need to homebrew a bunch. Particularly since from what's been said, it won't even be as easy as the current copy-spell when the 5.5 PHB hits. That's a lot of spells to go through the homebrew creator for.
If people just wanted to pull up a book and read the text, why buy on DDB?
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True, but the point missed is many wouldn't have spent a bent copper on this site if the content bought didn't work in the character builder! If purchased content can be removed from that tool why pay for anything on this site?
CENSORSHIP IS THE TOOL OF COWARDS and WANNA BE TYRANTS.
Again, "use it on the character sheet" only matters for attack and damage/healing rolls as I stated. If you cast, say, Charm Person or Forcecage or Commune with Nature from your character sheet, the sheet isn't actually doing anything, so just have a second browser tab open with the 2014 description.
Again, I did not pay for the character builder. No-one pays for the character builder. The character builder is free to use with the basic rules. What I paid for was to unlock certain features within the character builder, features that are now being removed. The fact that I can homebrew my own version is irrelevant as I could do that anyway without a purchase.
As for your comment about the cost, at what price point do you feel it is ok to complain about purchases being revoked? The $8 was just an example, overall I've spent a few $100 on this site, and I'd guess that most people posting will have paid more than that. I don't know why you think we should be fine with all those purchases disappearing?
For one, we're going to have to homebrew some of the subclasses anyway if we want them to give the old/homebrew versions of spells. Secondly do you really think it's more reasonable to ask hundreds of players to homebrew all their spells, rather than just setting up a legacy option like they have elsewhere? If you do, why would anyone buy anything on DnDBeyond as they can just homebrew it themselves in the free character builder.
Maybe Xanathar's is a bad example, I've not looked at exactly which spells are being replaced in the new PHB. There's certainly a lot from Tasha's (like all the Summon spells) and at least a few from Xanathars though. My point was more that items I've purchased will no longer be available to me. The spell pack from the PHB would be a better example, but I didn't want a response of "that's obsolete" (even though we've been told it isn't).
It'll only be a technical limitation in the sense of "we don't want to pay for it" (or I suppose "we laid off all the developers that could have done it"). The system must already have filters so that the character sheet only displays spells relevant to your class\subclass etc. Adding a "legacy" filter will obvious require some time\cost, but shouldn't be that difficult, and if the code's such a mess that that's not possible then they should really be looking to fix the code anyway, at which point this could be added. Nor should it be difficult to have two copies of the character sheet, one that references 2014 rules and one that references 2024 rules, controlled by a toggle in the character options. At the end of the day a lot of people pay subscriptions at least in part to pay for maintenance and update of the online tools, and the cost of digital books is (quite rightly) justified as paying for the same. It's not much to ask that they actually fix things so that we can keep the features we've paid for and been promised we can keep.
It does work in the character builder! The spells have the same damn name! And if it's the old-ass text you care about, most browsers let you do this thing where you can have more than one page open at the same time.
I'm in 3 campaigns (currently not DMing any myself), all 3 DMs have said today that they will not be using ANY 2024 content in their campaigns. Since every DDB character sheet will be updated to 2024 jargon/ruleset - even if you continue to use 2014 subclasses, there's simply no point to continuing to use DnD Beyond. It's faster to look up stuff in a physical book, than to navigate thru their website to find rules/items/spells in their digital format.
The whole point of DDB was to automatically pull in purchased content into character sheets, that updated in real-time, and allowed the player (characters) and DM (NPCs) to have everything at your mouse-pointer without having to go searching for it.
For anyone who didn't plan on converting to 2024 right away, we no longer have any reason to keep paying for DND Beyond.
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I find that exceedingly hard to believe, but you do you.
No. I paid for the 2014 edition. I own that content, in perpetuity (a world WotC had to be schooled on with OGL, and which they apparently haven't learned a damned thing about since).
If DDB removes access to the 2024 content, including character creation and maintenance, they are removing access to what I paid for. And the more I hear about 2024, the less interesting it is to me.
I want uninterrupted access to what I paid for, and which is mine. DDB will either continue to give me access to that content, including the tools built around that content which was a selling point of the content, or they will refund every penny. Small Claims if they don't, and we'll see how they manage to defend a shaky contract/license that already has nonenforceable clauses in my state in a venue where lawyers are forbidden.
You are getting the content you paid for; you paid for access to the entries on D&DB. That is being maintained. The integration of the entries with the character sheets hosted by D&DB is a free service they provide alongside the paid service of providing electronic versions of the 5e books. The subscription options for the character sheets essentially cover how many sheets you can have active, the ability to apply homebrew to them, and the ability to share purchased content with other users. Note that integration of purchased content does not appear anywhere on that list.
Personally I would prefer if the integration had been maintained, but there is objectively no leg to stand on that you are suffering damages or being denied any service you paid for. You purchased the right to view certain entries on this site. That right is being maintained.
This might be an awkward time to bring up the Arbitration clause you also agreed to...
why are you defending them? they are taking the stuff people saw and agreed to pay for for whatever slop they want to throw at us. sure you may not care about being forced to homebrew all the stuff you paid for and use back but others dont want to or have that time
(also if i made a misunderstanding then my bad lol still kinda seeing red about these changes)
the problem with this is people who paid for their stuff shouldnt be forced to "easily recreate" their spells they are using. no one asked them to do this and no one likes the changes by having all of their old paid for content stolen from them.
That is a lot of homebrew copying to do. I am taking a break from it for the night, and while it is easy to do, it is still a pain in the ass to go through so many.
If we know which spells and magic items are not changing, it would save us a lot of effort and time. Since we do not know, I am going to assume everything is changing and I am copying everything, or at least try to. I can handle copying all the spells, but I am not so sure about the magic items, as that is at least several times longer than the spell list.
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