I'm a fairly new DM and one of my players, who plays a Totem Warrior Barbarian (Bear), asked me if he will get advantage on the "Shove" action during combat at 6th level, when he gets "Aspects of the Beast".
From Aspects of the Beast:
"Bear
You gain the might of a bear. Your carrying capacity (including maximum load and maximum lift) is doubled, and you have advantage on Strength checks made to push, pull, lift, or break objects."
The way I interpret it is that he will get advantage when it comes to pushing, pulling or lifting items or objects. But the thing that makes me a little uncertain is the comma that comes after. How do you interpret it?
I could see a basis for it working that way. When you shove something, you are pushing it. But that might be more of a house interpretation of the rule, since the Aspect specifically calls out Strength checks, not attack roles. I'm not familiar enough with the Shove action. Is it an attack, or is it a check?
What comma are you having a problem with? I don't see any after the list of things that you get Advantage on.
I'd personally say no, as that rule specifically calls out objects (not creatures), however at 1st level the rage ability says, "You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws." (whilst raging).
I could see a basis for it working that way. When you shove something, you are pushing it. But that might be more of a house interpretation of the rule, since the Aspect specifically calls out Strength checks, not attack roles. I'm not familiar enough with the Shove action. Is it an attack, or is it a check?
What comma are you having a problem with? I don't see any after the list of things that you get Advantage on.
Oh, I meant the comma after "Lift", as if you would have advantage on pushing, pulling and lifting in general (that is why I wondered if it would apply to the STR check when shoving a creature), and also breaking objects. But that was probably just me misinterpreting the sentence.
The way it is written is grammatically correct but hard to understand so let me re word it for simplifying the understanding.
is doubled, and you have advantage on Strength checks made to push objects, pull objects , lift objects , or break objects."
The objects at the end applys to all actions to simplify and shorten the written word needed to write it.
so what this means is these advantages on strength checks applies to objects and not creatures. This is because while raging you get advantage on strength check actions like grappling,shoving etc. etc. vs creatures in combat. But only while you are raging because your anger unleashed your brute power.
the bonus in question is meant to applied for role playing and investigating things or creative uses for puzzles or traps needing to be solved
When shoving a creature, it is an opposed check that uses one of your attacks with the Attack action. You make a Strength (Athletics) check vs their Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics). Whoever rolls higher wins. When raging, you have advantage on Strength checks. So, if you're raging (regardless of subclass), you will have advantage on your Strength (Athletics) check when shoving another creature.
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I'm a fairly new DM and one of my players, who plays a Totem Warrior Barbarian (Bear), asked me if he will get advantage on the "Shove" action during combat at 6th level, when he gets "Aspects of the Beast".
From Aspects of the Beast:
"Bear
You gain the might of a bear. Your carrying capacity (including maximum load and maximum lift) is doubled, and you have advantage on Strength checks made to push, pull, lift, or break objects."
The way I interpret it is that he will get advantage when it comes to pushing, pulling or lifting items or objects. But the thing that makes me a little uncertain is the comma that comes after. How do you interpret it?
Shove is defined as a special melee attack, so it wouldn't apply to something that gives advantage to strength checks.
I could see a basis for it working that way. When you shove something, you are pushing it. But that might be more of a house interpretation of the rule, since the Aspect specifically calls out Strength checks, not attack roles. I'm not familiar enough with the Shove action. Is it an attack, or is it a check?
What comma are you having a problem with? I don't see any after the list of things that you get Advantage on.
I'd personally say no, as that rule specifically calls out objects (not creatures), however at 1st level the rage ability says, "You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws." (whilst raging).
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Oh, I meant the comma after "Lift", as if you would have advantage on pushing, pulling and lifting in general (that is why I wondered if it would apply to the STR check when shoving a creature), and also breaking objects. But that was probably just me misinterpreting the sentence.
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The way it is written is grammatically correct but hard to understand so let me re word it for simplifying the understanding.
is doubled, and you have advantage on Strength checks made to push objects, pull objects , lift objects , or break objects."
The objects at the end applys to all actions to simplify and shorten the written word needed to write it.
so what this means is these advantages on strength checks applies to objects and not creatures. This is because while raging you get advantage on strength check actions like grappling,shoving etc. etc. vs creatures in combat. But only while you are raging because your anger unleashed your brute power.
the bonus in question is meant to applied for role playing and investigating things or creative uses for puzzles or traps needing to be solved
When shoving a creature, it is an opposed check that uses one of your attacks with the Attack action. You make a Strength (Athletics) check vs their Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics). Whoever rolls higher wins. When raging, you have advantage on Strength checks. So, if you're raging (regardless of subclass), you will have advantage on your Strength (Athletics) check when shoving another creature.
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