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Explanation: It's kinda weird, but HoH describes the area as blackness, not darkness. It also says that light cannot enter it, which weirdly doesn't create the heavily obscured area that's normal for most spells of this type, but everyone treats it as heavily obscured, and finally, it blinds you if you're inside it. None of those things are cured by devil's sight. Hope that helped!
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Devil Sight is a lot more limited than people think. I used to think the Devil Sight + Darkness Warlock was the best idea, till I tried it and discovered:
How often other creatures can see in magical darkness (even normal everyday BATS have Blindsight...)
How much a problem darkness can be for your allies.
How often things like smoke, fog, sleet storm, and Plant Growth create Heavy Obscurement blocking even Devil Sight.
Unless a spell says magical darkness, do not expect devil sight to work.
Some misinformation in this thread, hopefully I can clear it up.
Depends. Is the entity with devil's sight inside or outside the hunger?
If inside, the creature is blinded, so devil's sight is immaterial.
If outside, the hunger absolutely does create darkness (because no light can illuminate the area, which is definitionally darkness). In addition to the darkness, it also creates "blackness". No-one knows what this means. It is, from a rules perspective, word salad. That means anyone on here telling you how to see through it is wrong - it's up to your DM, as the RAW is completely silent on it and does not cover it. The darkness part of HoH can be defeated by Devil's Sight if the viewer is outside the HoH. For the blackness, it depends on whether your DM treats the word as a synonym for darkness (in which case DS works on it) or as an indication of something else (e.g. if the blackness is essentially black fog, DS won't work on it). If it's anything other than darkness, DS won't work on it.
Your question is fine, but making a first post like this is considered bad form. Anyway, moving on...
The consensus is that the darkness blackness created by hunger of Hadaris different from mundane or magical darkness, even though it is magical, and it is dark. This idea is backed up by a tweet from Jeremy Crawford saying as much, so we know it's RAI. And if you want to think of it as heavy obscurement, this tracks. Now, whether the "dark between the stars" is a space devoid of light or whether it is active obscurement is more of a narrative decision. If you want to drill down into the specifics of RAW, it's up to you on whether you want to consider magical blackness to be magical darkness. The rules don't draw a distinction that I am aware of. I am also not aware of "blackness" referenced in this context anywhere else in the rules.
I hope my answer was at least as clear as the dark between the stars created by the spell.
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Explanation: It's kinda weird, but HoH describes the area as blackness, not darkness. It also says that light cannot enter it, which weirdly doesn't create the heavily obscured area that's normal for most spells of this type, but everyone treats it as heavily obscured, and finally, it blinds you if you're inside it. None of those things are cured by devil's sight. Hope that helped!
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Devil Sight is a lot more limited than people think. I used to think the Devil Sight + Darkness Warlock was the best idea, till I tried it and discovered:
Unless a spell says magical darkness, do not expect devil sight to work.
Devil's Sight let you see in magical and nonmagical darkness, which Hunger of Hadar does not create.
Some misinformation in this thread, hopefully I can clear it up.
Depends. Is the entity with devil's sight inside or outside the hunger?
If inside, the creature is blinded, so devil's sight is immaterial.
If outside, the hunger absolutely does create darkness (because no light can illuminate the area, which is definitionally darkness). In addition to the darkness, it also creates "blackness". No-one knows what this means. It is, from a rules perspective, word salad. That means anyone on here telling you how to see through it is wrong - it's up to your DM, as the RAW is completely silent on it and does not cover it. The darkness part of HoH can be defeated by Devil's Sight if the viewer is outside the HoH. For the blackness, it depends on whether your DM treats the word as a synonym for darkness (in which case DS works on it) or as an indication of something else (e.g. if the blackness is essentially black fog, DS won't work on it). If it's anything other than darkness, DS won't work on it.
Tl;dr:
No if the viewer is inside HoH.
Ask your DM if the viewer is outside HoH.
Your question is fine, but making a first post like this is considered bad form. Anyway, moving on...
The consensus is that the
darknessblackness created by hunger of Hadar is different from mundane or magical darkness, even though it is magical, and it is dark. This idea is backed up by a tweet from Jeremy Crawford saying as much, so we know it's RAI. And if you want to think of it as heavy obscurement, this tracks. Now, whether the "dark between the stars" is a space devoid of light or whether it is active obscurement is more of a narrative decision. If you want to drill down into the specifics of RAW, it's up to you on whether you want to consider magical blackness to be magical darkness. The rules don't draw a distinction that I am aware of. I am also not aware of "blackness" referenced in this context anywhere else in the rules.I hope my answer was at least as clear as the dark between the stars created by the spell.
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