Obviously not getting new physical books for free, but are we going to have access to the new core books on D&D Beyond if we have the current ones? Or will the old core set just be marked 'Legacy' like VGtM and MToF?
Because that would really, really suck for something that's "not a new edition".
I imagine it will be marked off as legacy. Owning VGtM and/or MToF didn't entitle anyone to MotM, I don't see them changing attitude for this.
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We know that 1D&D will be compatible with 5e adventures, I can play Rime of the Frostmaiden with 5e or 1D&D for example. However, can we assume that we will be able to play 1D&D adventures with 5e rules? Can we just keep on playing 5e if we wish to play with the new stuff? Or will we have to buy 1D&D rules to play them properly?
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We can only speculate, but currently there is the basic rules (SRD) available for free and the full PHB costs. I can imagine they'll continue that. So the answer could be both.
Chris Perkins did say that One D&D isn't a new edition per se.... But if you think anything other than the current books being marked as 'legacy' and having to fork out for new books, you're likely wrong!
I feel like if I buy the physical book, I should be given a digital on here free. Digital is great, but physical books are still worth having.. Also.. just cause they are not calling it 5.5E or 6E.. doesn't mean its not.. if they are changing or adding stuff... and its not a supplemental source book, it's a new version.
@Kotath Personally I feel that really isn't the spirit that this is about.
The books are a great resource and should be sold separately. To be honest I will never understand why anyone would want to buy the (digital content only) and the physical content, but that is to each person's reasonings.
However, what DDB offers is a completely separate product. They are basically providing a database that is relational and has a pretty handy GUI in the form of character sheets to use all that digital content. And they are maintaining it. In that there is value separate from the digital content. For extreme ease of use when you combine the database with the digital content that is really what they are selling when you pay $29.99 for the digital version of the PHB. This is why I would buy the book and then buy the (full) digital version. For my personal use.
At least that is how I see it. And how I justify the purchase.
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If 1D&D is just an 'update' of 5e, can we assume that if we've already purchased the 5e core rulebooks, we will have the updated options automatically? I would love it if the new material was added in a "optional" or "alternative" type section of my current core book library. I'd even be happy with a discounted "update" price that just adds the material to the appropriate book in my library.
No, as was already said in this thread, the most likely outcome is that the 2014 Core books will become "legacy" content that you'll keep if you've already purchased them but won't be offered for sale anymore, and if you want the One D&D versions you'll have to buy them separately.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Monsters of the Multiverse updated the races and monsters from Tome of Foes and Volo's, and no one got a free update when that happened; and that's the precedent for the "legacy" theory many suppose will happen as the updated core goes online. The access you will have to the updated rules outside of purchasing that new core will likely be in whatever updated form the free basic rules take.
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We know that 1D&D will be compatible with 5e adventures, I can play Rime of the Frostmaiden with 5e or 1D&D for example. However, can we assume that we will be able to play 1D&D adventures with 5e rules? Can we just keep on playing 5e if we wish to play with the new stuff? Or will we have to buy 1D&D rules to play them properly?
I don't see why not, should be about like using adventures from any other editions, which hasn't been much work at least it compared to starting from scratch and homebrewing.
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The way they've released the SRD doesn't really let them pull it out of circulation, just put out a new edition. However, they don't have to make it particularly accessible, and since we didn't buy the basic rules they're not under any contractual requirements to keep it, so things like the basic rules on DDB may just be switched over (i.e. the current basic rules might just disappear and be replaced, rather than being marked as legacy).
Kyle Brink promised a new SRD for 2024. The original SRD 5.1 is in Creative Commons now, so they couldn't delete it even if they wanted to (though whether it will still be easily accessible via this website is entirely up to WotC, but you'll still be able to download it in PDF form and play with it regardless.)
The way they've released the SRD doesn't really let them pull it out of circulation, just put out a new edition. However, they don't have to make it particularly accessible, and since we didn't buy the basic rules they're not under any contractual requirements to keep it, so things like the basic rules on DDB may just be switched over (i.e. the current basic rules might just disappear and be replaced, rather than being marked as legacy).
Kyle Brink promised a new SRD for 2024. The original SRD 5.1 is in Creative Commons now, so they couldn't delete it even if they wanted to (though whether it will still be easily accessible via this website is entirely up to WotC, but you'll still be able to download it in PDF form and play with it regardless.)
Thanks for the info!
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I doubt they'll stop supporting Basic Rules at all; it's the trial edition of the rules to let people dip a toe in and get invested while still holding back a lot of content to then sell down the line. This is a very well proven and established model, I doubt it's going anywhere.
I doubt they'll stop supporting Basic Rules at all; it's the trial edition of the rules to let people dip a toe in and get invested while still holding back a lot of content to then sell down the line. This is a very well proven and established model, I doubt it's going anywhere.
Oh, I'm sure they won't get rid of basic rules. They might, however, choose to only offer the 2024 basic rules on this website, once those come out.
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Obviously not getting new physical books for free, but are we going to have access to the new core books on D&D Beyond if we have the current ones? Or will the old core set just be marked 'Legacy' like VGtM and MToF?
Because that would really, really suck for something that's "not a new edition".
I imagine it will be marked off as legacy. Owning VGtM and/or MToF didn't entitle anyone to MotM, I don't see them changing attitude for this.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
I don't feel that owning a prior "edition" should get you the new books for free.
So I have a question.
We know that 1D&D will be compatible with 5e adventures, I can play Rime of the Frostmaiden with 5e or 1D&D for example. However, can we assume that we will be able to play 1D&D adventures with 5e rules? Can we just keep on playing 5e if we wish to play with the new stuff? Or will we have to buy 1D&D rules to play them properly?
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
We can only speculate, but currently there is the basic rules (SRD) available for free and the full PHB costs. I can imagine they'll continue that. So the answer could be both.
Chris Perkins did say that One D&D isn't a new edition per se.... But if you think anything other than the current books being marked as 'legacy' and having to fork out for new books, you're likely wrong!
I feel like if I buy the physical book, I should be given a digital on here free. Digital is great, but physical books are still worth having.. Also.. just cause they are not calling it 5.5E or 6E.. doesn't mean its not.. if they are changing or adding stuff... and its not a supplemental source book, it's a new version.
Enjoy your slop. I'll be enjoying good products elsewhere.
@Kotath Personally I feel that really isn't the spirit that this is about.
The books are a great resource and should be sold separately. To be honest I will never understand why anyone would want to buy the (digital content only) and the physical content, but that is to each person's reasonings.
However, what DDB offers is a completely separate product. They are basically providing a database that is relational and has a pretty handy GUI in the form of character sheets to use all that digital content. And they are maintaining it. In that there is value separate from the digital content. For extreme ease of use when you combine the database with the digital content that is really what they are selling when you pay $29.99 for the digital version of the PHB. This is why I would buy the book and then buy the (full) digital version. For my personal use.
At least that is how I see it. And how I justify the purchase.
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If 1D&D is just an 'update' of 5e, can we assume that if we've already purchased the 5e core rulebooks, we will have the updated options automatically? I would love it if the new material was added in a "optional" or "alternative" type section of my current core book library. I'd even be happy with a discounted "update" price that just adds the material to the appropriate book in my library.
No, as was already said in this thread, the most likely outcome is that the 2014 Core books will become "legacy" content that you'll keep if you've already purchased them but won't be offered for sale anymore, and if you want the One D&D versions you'll have to buy them separately.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Monsters of the Multiverse updated the races and monsters from Tome of Foes and Volo's, and no one got a free update when that happened; and that's the precedent for the "legacy" theory many suppose will happen as the updated core goes online. The access you will have to the updated rules outside of purchasing that new core will likely be in whatever updated form the free basic rules take.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I don't see why not, should be about like using adventures from any other editions, which hasn't been much work at least it compared to starting from scratch and homebrewing.
CENSORSHIP IS THE TOOL OF COWARDS and WANNA BE TYRANTS.
Basic/the SRD is going to be free, and will contain everything you'll need to play full games 1-20.
CENSORSHIP IS THE TOOL OF COWARDS and WANNA BE TYRANTS.
The way they've released the SRD doesn't really let them pull it out of circulation, just put out a new edition. However, they don't have to make it particularly accessible, and since we didn't buy the basic rules they're not under any contractual requirements to keep it, so things like the basic rules on DDB may just be switched over (i.e. the current basic rules might just disappear and be replaced, rather than being marked as legacy).
Kyle Brink promised a new SRD for 2024. The original SRD 5.1 is in Creative Commons now, so they couldn't delete it even if they wanted to (though whether it will still be easily accessible via this website is entirely up to WotC, but you'll still be able to download it in PDF form and play with it regardless.)
Thanks for the info!
CENSORSHIP IS THE TOOL OF COWARDS and WANNA BE TYRANTS.
I doubt they'll stop supporting Basic Rules at all; it's the trial edition of the rules to let people dip a toe in and get invested while still holding back a lot of content to then sell down the line. This is a very well proven and established model, I doubt it's going anywhere.
Oh, I'm sure they won't get rid of basic rules. They might, however, choose to only offer the 2024 basic rules on this website, once those come out.