I am creating a firbolg elf hybrid - long story. And one of the things I thought would be cool is that people would choose their traits. So for example Mask of the Wild is granted and Hidden Step would be the replacement trait if selected. So ppl could choose how much or how little they get from the comingling of the races.
Now here is where I am having troble: I wanted to use the Elf Weapon Training. I was planning to use the origin replacement where I could trade out the proficiencies for any other weapon or tool proficiency. I thought it would come up naturally as it did when I selected wood elf but it does not. I have tried to add it but even though I know hoe to create the replacement option I do not know how to make it a choose one of these options.
For example - I wanted the ability to fletch my own arrows and create poisions to tip the arrows (DM Approved) - so I wanted to take proficiency with Long Bow, Shoort Bow, Instead of short sword - poisner's kit, instead of long sword - woodcarver's kit. I know I could just give these proficiencies and it would work for me but I would rather make it a choice so I can use this race option for more then one character.
I’m not 100% sure, but it sounds like you might be mixing up Options with optional Traits.
You can make a standard race with all “Granted” options and then make Variant Races that have “granted” options that replace specific racial traits from the main race.
You can have a race with “granted” traits that grant “options.”
You can have a Race with “granted traits and then have other “replacement” traits designated to replace original traits the way the custom lineage stuff from Tasha’s works.
You could even conceivably mix-n-match that stuff like a Frankenstein’s creature if you want to.
But if you’re accidentally mixing and matching those it will result in a bunch of stuff that doesn’t work correctly.
I probably am not explaining it right. With tasha things can be replaced and I LOVE that ability. The Firbolg elf is somthing like this for their subrace traits - Nothing can be repeated which is why I have some that have duplicate answers. All Elf subraces have the ability score as one of the 4 traits they get from their sub race.
Trait 1: Choose Ability Score Increse (+1), Firbolg Magic, OR Speech of Beast and Leaf Trait 2: Choose Elf Weapon Training, Firbolg Magic, OR Speech of Beast and Leaf
Trait 3: Choose Fleet of Foot, Powerful Build, Speech of Beast and Leaf, or Firbolg Magic Trait 4: Choose Mask of the Wild or Hidden Step.
This step is already done. ( My character will have Firbolg Magic, Elf Weapon Training, Speech of Beast and Leaf, and Hidden Step.)
What I am trying to do now and they way I thought it would work is to use the optional replacement available from tasha's to replace the 4 weapon proficiencies in the Elf Weapon Training Trait that I thought would be there automatically like it is when you select wood elf.
The problem is that your homebrew isn’t an official Elf, so it doesn’t get the official Elf treatment. You have to create that for yourself as a “replacement” feature. This is what I was referring to by havito Frankenstein your thing together with the different methods.
Oh ok Yeah I see that - Do you know how to add the Elf Weapon Training Option Replacement? If not I just may ask my dm for permission to do so and add each item specifically rather then all in one on the offical version. Either that or create a customised feat that will replace that trait with options (I know how to do it there) but it not really be counted as one of my feats.
You would have to make an entirely separate “replacement” (instead of granted) trait identical to the first one with all of the exact same options, but change the modifiers granted for weapon training to the other stuff.
You can meta a Tasha’s style replacement option for an entire racial trait, but not for the individual options. Again, hence the Frankenbaby.
I am creating a firbolg elf hybrid - long story. And one of the things I thought would be cool is that people would choose their traits. So for example Mask of the Wild is granted and Hidden Step would be the replacement trait if selected. So ppl could choose how much or how little they get from the comingling of the races.
Now here is where I am having troble: I wanted to use the Elf Weapon Training. I was planning to use the origin replacement where I could trade out the proficiencies for any other weapon or tool proficiency. I thought it would come up naturally as it did when I selected wood elf but it does not. I have tried to add it but even though I know hoe to create the replacement option I do not know how to make it a choose one of these options.
For example - I wanted the ability to fletch my own arrows and create poisions to tip the arrows (DM Approved) - so I wanted to take proficiency with Long Bow, Shoort Bow, Instead of short sword - poisner's kit, instead of long sword - woodcarver's kit. I know I could just give these proficiencies and it would work for me but I would rather make it a choice so I can use this race option for more then one character.
Does anyone know how to add choices?
Thank you,
Jet
I’m not 100% sure, but it sounds like you might be mixing up Options with optional Traits.
But if you’re accidentally mixing and matching those it will result in a bunch of stuff that doesn’t work correctly.
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I probably am not explaining it right. With tasha things can be replaced and I LOVE that ability. The Firbolg elf is somthing like this for their subrace traits - Nothing can be repeated which is why I have some that have duplicate answers. All Elf subraces have the ability score as one of the 4 traits they get from their sub race.
Trait 1: Choose Ability Score Increse (+1), Firbolg Magic, OR Speech of Beast and Leaf Trait 2: Choose Elf Weapon Training, Firbolg Magic, OR Speech of Beast and Leaf
Trait 3: Choose Fleet of Foot, Powerful Build, Speech of Beast and Leaf, or Firbolg Magic Trait 4: Choose Mask of the Wild or Hidden Step.
This step is already done. ( My character will have Firbolg Magic, Elf Weapon Training, Speech of Beast and Leaf, and Hidden Step.)
What I am trying to do now and they way I thought it would work is to use the optional replacement available from tasha's to replace the 4 weapon proficiencies in the Elf Weapon Training Trait that I thought would be there automatically like it is when you select wood elf.
The problem is that your homebrew isn’t an official Elf, so it doesn’t get the official Elf treatment. You have to create that for yourself as a “replacement” feature. This is what I was referring to by havito Frankenstein your thing together with the different methods.
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Oh ok Yeah I see that - Do you know how to add the Elf Weapon Training Option Replacement? If not I just may ask my dm for permission to do so and add each item specifically rather then all in one on the offical version. Either that or create a customised feat that will replace that trait with options (I know how to do it there) but it not really be counted as one of my feats.
Also thank you so much for taking the time to reply!!!
You would have to make an entirely separate “replacement” (instead of granted) trait identical to the first one with all of the exact same options, but change the modifiers granted for weapon training to the other stuff.
You can meta a Tasha’s style replacement option for an entire racial trait, but not for the individual options. Again, hence the Frankenbaby.
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OK thats what I dont know how to do. I have added the replacement but I dont know how to add the drop down meanu to pick the items
Nevermind I see it - So you add the drop down list through modifiers - Thats the part I didnt understand. Thankyou