I still don't care now, Cyno (Also, I never am going to talk to you again, unless you directly speak to me.)
Okay 😭
And also, I'm not going to tell you why
would you tell me why instead
No
im not going to tell you because I don't want to hurt you by telling you my hurts
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Well, I was pretty sure you cheated regardless. Incidentally, if you had 306 or less health, you'd have died even with death ward.
How does one glitch a paper character sheet again? I forget. I thought they patched that one out when we (humanity) switched over to papyrus, so I'll assume the error lies between the computer and the chair.
Well, I was pretty sure you cheated regardless. Incidentally, if you had 306 or less health, you'd have died even with death ward.
How does one glitch a paper character sheet again? I forget. I thought they patched that one out when we (humanity) switched over to papyrus, so I'll assume the error lies between the computer and the chair.
Chalking this up as a win.
I actually didn't cheat, but okay
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Strike 1 - You breached action economy by drinking your potion of speed first and then casting haste on yourself. A haste action doesn't allow you to cast spells.
Strike 2 - You attempted to use an illegal magic item (a ninth level scroll of a 4th level spell, which is not rules compliant).
Strike 3 - You claimed to be using the 2024 ruleset and yet used a potion of speed, a legacy item which doesn't exist in the 2024 ruleset.
Strike 4 - You cheated on your health. With twenty constitution, your level split would give you 209 health. Tough bumps that to 249. That's almost eighty hit points short of survival.
Strike 5 - You cheated an extra feat. The D&D Beyond website allows you to take two tough feats, one legacy and one 2024. This is not intended in the rules, and in the multiclass screen D&D Beyond even warns you the rules aren't supposed to mix. That would bring your health to only 289, almost forty points short of survival.
Strike 6 - You cheated poisoned ammunition. We specified one round of prep, one turn each, which does not give you time to poison your ammunition.
Strike 7 - You did not specify the creature type of your arrows of slaying. This is an important detail. Some player characters are humanoids, some are fey, some might even be other creature types. There is no arrows of universal slaying.
Strike 8 - Even after I pointed it out to you as an incorrect interpretation of the rules and provided screenshot evidence, you still appeared to take two haste actions during your turn; while this could have been a war domain cleric bonus action attack, as you didn't specify your cleric and paladin subclasses, the fact you didn't use guided strike to make your attacks hit suggests otherwise.
Strike 9 - You violate the agreed prep round twice more by saying you had cast contingency and death ward precombat. You did not have time to do this.
Strike 10 - You claimed to have cast contingency, a 6th level spell, when the highest level spell you can prepare is a fourth level spell thanks to your seven cleric levels. You also did not declare a scroll of contingency magic item, leading me to believe this is deliberate dishonesty.
Strike 11 - You claimed to have used an "AC glitch", irrelevant to this fight as magic missile deals guaranteed damage regardless of AC.
Never claim to not have cheated again. Unlike, presumably, your other opponents, I know the rules. You appear to have the weakest of grasps upon them. I suggest learning them very thoroughly before you engage in player versus player combat again.
Strike 1 - You breached action economy by drinking your potion of speed first and then casting haste on yourself. A haste action doesn't allow you to cast spells.
Strike 2 - You attempted to use an illegal magic item (a ninth level scroll of a 4th level spell, which is not rules compliant).
Strike 3 - You claimed to be using the 2024 ruleset and yet used a potion of speed, a legacy item which doesn't exist in the 2024 ruleset.
Strike 4 - You cheated on your health. With twenty constitution, your level split would give you 209 health. Tough bumps that to 249. That's almost eighty hit points short of survival.
Strike 5 - You cheated an extra feat. The D&D Beyond website allows you to take two tough feats, one legacy and one 2024. This is not intended in the rules, and in the multiclass screen D&D Beyond even warns you the rules aren't supposed to mix. That would bring your health to only 289, almost forty points short of survival.
Strike 6 - You cheated poisoned ammunition. We specified one round of prep, one turn each, which does not give you time to poison your ammunition.
Strike 7 - You did not specify the creature type of your arrows of slaying. This is an important detail. Some player characters are humanoids, some are fey, some might even be other creature types. There is no arrows of universal slaying.
Strike 8 - Even after I pointed it out to you as an incorrect interpretation of the rules and provided screenshot evidence, you still appeared to take two haste actions during your turn; while this could have been a war domain cleric bonus action attack, as you didn't specify your cleric and paladin subclasses, the fact you didn't use guided strike to make your attacks hit suggests otherwise.
Strike 9 - You violate the agreed prep round twice more by saying you had cast contingency and death ward precombat. You did not have time to do this.
Strike 10 - You claimed to have cast contingency, a 6th level spell, when the highest level spell you can prepare is a fourth level spell thanks to your seven cleric levels. You also did not declare a scroll of contingency magic item, leading me to believe this is deliberate dishonesty.
Strike 11 - You claimed to have used an "AC glitch", irrelevant to this fight as magic missile deals guaranteed damage regardless of AC.
Never claim to not have cheated again. Unlike, presumably, your other opponents, I know the rules. You appear to have the weakest of grasps upon them. I suggest learning them very thoroughly before you engage in player versus player combat again.
Number one, you can drink a potion of haste and cast haste on yourself. You start by casting haste, then you use your other action to drink the potion
Number two: I was not aware that in this set of rules, you can not do that.
Number three: WHAT? I tooltiped the new version. If you want it again, potion of speed
Number four: First, that's not how I took the tough feat twice, and did you not understand the paper sheet?
Number five: If you understand that I took the tough feat twice, then you should understand the boon of fortitude
Numbers six through nine are all true
Number ten: This only makes sense in the new rule because you, when you multiclass multiple casters. You gain the level of spell casting equal to all your casting classes.
Number eleven: Why is that considered a cheat?
This should tell that I know the rules very well, just not the old rules
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Number one, you can drink a potion of haste and cast haste on yourself. You start by casting haste, then you use your other action to drink the potion
You only knew this after Redpelt told you, and your action reversed these. Additionally, you still can’t benefit from both.
Number two: I was not aware that in this set of rules, you can not do that.
It is the same in all DND rule sets.
Number three: WHAT? I tooltiped the new version. If you want it again, potion of speed
Yea that part seems right to me
Number four: First, that's not how I took the tough feat twice, and did you not understand the paper sheet?
You physically cannot take the tough feat twice. Feats that you can take multiple times are specifically stated in the feat, such as Resilient and Elemental Adept, regardless of how you took it.
Number five: If you understand that I took the tough feat twice, then you should understand the boon of fortitude
You didn’t say boon of fortitude, you specifically said tough feat twice.
Numbers six through nine are all true
Number ten: This only makes sense in the new rule because you, when you multiclass multiple casters. You gain the level of spell casting equal to all your casting classes.
That… isn’t true at all. I can link the PHB page on multiclassing rules if you need it.
Number eleven: Why is that considered a cheat?
Because your AC wouldn’t have impacted whether or not you lived in the fight, and you never described what your AC is or what this supposed glitch is.
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Number ten: This only makes sense in the new rule because you, when you multiclass multiple casters. You gain the level of spell casting equal to all your casting classes.
That… isn’t true at all. I can link the PHB page on multiclassing rules if you need it.
with cleric 7/paladin 13 you could cast a 6th level spell, read the PHB
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Number ten: This only makes sense in the new rule because you, when you multiclass multiple casters. You gain the level of spell casting equal to all your casting classes.
That… isn’t true at all. I can link the PHB page on multiclassing rules if you need it.
with cleric 7/paladin 13 you could cast a 6th level spell, read the PHB
It's not 13 levels, Paladin
its ranger3/fighter3/cleric7/paladin
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Half your levels (round up) in the Paladin and Ranger classes
Which is not relevant here anyways, because Scienceboy’s split was 6 Paladin/7 Cleric. This gives him a maximum of 5th level slots (3 paladin + 7 cleric). Additionally, the contingency spell is not on the wizard spell list.
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sorry, I assumed the rest was paladin. the ranger also gives spell slots, so that would be 3 paladin + 7 cleric + 2 ranger so he would have access to 6th level slots
This is the post where he posted his class spread. Regardless, contingency is not on any of those spell lists, even if he had access to 6th level spells (which he doesn’t). He also had no time to cast it. What is the point you are trying to make?
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sorry, I assumed the rest was paladin. the ranger also gives spell slots, so that would be 3 paladin + 7 cleric + 2 ranger so he would have access to 6th level slots
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By 2024 rules thats a 10th level caster, as ranger and paladin are halved. By 2014 rules, its 9th level, since round down for each halved. Both 10th and 9th level spellcasters can only cast up to 5th level spells.
Additionally, even if by multiclassing, you prepare and learn spells through each class individually based on your level in that class. The higher level multiclassing spell slots are purely for upcasting if you cant learn such a spell. Cleric 7 can prepare up to 4th level spells, and both ranger 2 and paladin 3 can only learn or prepare 1st level spells. Therefore, even if the build had 6th level spell slots, none of those levels would allow learning contingency even if it was on the spell lists of those classes
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im not going to tell you because I don't want to hurt you by telling you my hurts
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber
Well, I was pretty sure you cheated regardless. Incidentally, if you had 306 or less health, you'd have died even with death ward.
How does one glitch a paper character sheet again? I forget. I thought they patched that one out when we (humanity) switched over to papyrus, so I'll assume the error lies between the computer and the chair.
Chalking this up as a win.
I can’t remember what’s supposed to go here.
I actually didn't cheat, but okay
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber
Strike 1 - You breached action economy by drinking your potion of speed first and then casting haste on yourself. A haste action doesn't allow you to cast spells.
Strike 2 - You attempted to use an illegal magic item (a ninth level scroll of a 4th level spell, which is not rules compliant).
Strike 3 - You claimed to be using the 2024 ruleset and yet used a potion of speed, a legacy item which doesn't exist in the 2024 ruleset.
Strike 4 - You cheated on your health. With twenty constitution, your level split would give you 209 health. Tough bumps that to 249. That's almost eighty hit points short of survival.
Strike 5 - You cheated an extra feat. The D&D Beyond website allows you to take two tough feats, one legacy and one 2024. This is not intended in the rules, and in the multiclass screen D&D Beyond even warns you the rules aren't supposed to mix. That would bring your health to only 289, almost forty points short of survival.
Strike 6 - You cheated poisoned ammunition. We specified one round of prep, one turn each, which does not give you time to poison your ammunition.
Strike 7 - You did not specify the creature type of your arrows of slaying. This is an important detail. Some player characters are humanoids, some are fey, some might even be other creature types. There is no arrows of universal slaying.
Strike 8 - Even after I pointed it out to you as an incorrect interpretation of the rules and provided screenshot evidence, you still appeared to take two haste actions during your turn; while this could have been a war domain cleric bonus action attack, as you didn't specify your cleric and paladin subclasses, the fact you didn't use guided strike to make your attacks hit suggests otherwise.
Strike 9 - You violate the agreed prep round twice more by saying you had cast contingency and death ward precombat. You did not have time to do this.
Strike 10 - You claimed to have cast contingency, a 6th level spell, when the highest level spell you can prepare is a fourth level spell thanks to your seven cleric levels. You also did not declare a scroll of contingency magic item, leading me to believe this is deliberate dishonesty.
Strike 11 - You claimed to have used an "AC glitch", irrelevant to this fight as magic missile deals guaranteed damage regardless of AC.
Never claim to not have cheated again. Unlike, presumably, your other opponents, I know the rules. You appear to have the weakest of grasps upon them. I suggest learning them very thoroughly before you engage in player versus player combat again.
I can’t remember what’s supposed to go here.
uh, okay, so, magic missile always hits regardless of ac
that's the whole point you take magic missile
...
that seems pretty obvious
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Number one, you can drink a potion of haste and cast haste on yourself. You start by casting haste, then you use your other action to drink the potion
Number two: I was not aware that in this set of rules, you can not do that.
Number three: WHAT? I tooltiped the new version. If you want it again, potion of speed
Number four: First, that's not how I took the tough feat twice, and did you not understand the paper sheet?
Number five: If you understand that I took the tough feat twice, then you should understand the boon of fortitude
Numbers six through nine are all true
Number ten: This only makes sense in the new rule because you, when you multiclass multiple casters. You gain the level of spell casting equal to all your casting classes.
Number eleven: Why is that considered a cheat?
This should tell that I know the rules very well, just not the old rules
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber
You only knew this after Redpelt told you, and your action reversed these. Additionally, you still can’t benefit from both.
It is the same in all DND rule sets.
Yea that part seems right to me
You physically cannot take the tough feat twice. Feats that you can take multiple times are specifically stated in the feat, such as Resilient and Elemental Adept, regardless of how you took it.
You didn’t say boon of fortitude, you specifically said tough feat twice.
That… isn’t true at all. I can link the PHB page on multiclassing rules if you need it.
Because your AC wouldn’t have impacted whether or not you lived in the fight, and you never described what your AC is or what this supposed glitch is.
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with cleric 7/paladin 13 you could cast a 6th level spell, read the PHB
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It's not 13 levels, Paladin
its ranger3/fighter3/cleric7/paladin
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part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
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In the PHB:
Spell Slots. You determine your available spell slots by adding together the following:
Which is not relevant here anyways, because Scienceboy’s split was 6 Paladin/7 Cleric. This gives him a maximum of 5th level slots (3 paladin + 7 cleric). Additionally, the contingency spell is not on the wizard spell list.
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sorry, I assumed the rest was paladin. the ranger also gives spell slots, so that would be 3 paladin + 7 cleric + 2 ranger so he would have access to 6th level slots
edit: epic boons are banned in the arena
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This is the post where he posted his class spread. Regardless, contingency is not on any of those spell lists, even if he had access to 6th level spells (which he doesn’t). He also had no time to cast it. What is the point you are trying to make?
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By 2024 rules thats a 10th level caster, as ranger and paladin are halved. By 2014 rules, its 9th level, since round down for each halved. Both 10th and 9th level spellcasters can only cast up to 5th level spells.
Additionally, even if by multiclassing, you prepare and learn spells through each class individually based on your level in that class. The higher level multiclassing spell slots are purely for upcasting if you cant learn such a spell. Cleric 7 can prepare up to 4th level spells, and both ranger 2 and paladin 3 can only learn or prepare 1st level spells. Therefore, even if the build had 6th level spell slots, none of those levels would allow learning contingency even if it was on the spell lists of those classes
NNCHRIS: SOUL THIEF, MASTER OF THE ARCANE, AND KING OF NEW YORKNN
Gdl Creator of Ilheia and her Knights of the Fallen Stars ldG
Lesser Student of Technomancy [undergrad student in computer science]
Supporter of the 2014 rules, and a MASSIVE Homebrewer. Come to me all ye who seek salvation in wording thy brews!
Open to homebrew trades at any time!! Or feel free to request HB, and Ill see if I can get it done for ya!
Characters (Outdated)