Not really. He has wisdom as a dump stat (he's a very irresponsible kid who does A LOT of dumb shit) and he's also kind of a jerk (kidnapping people to play with him, being rude), doesn't have any real survival skills that stand out and he's generally not very ranger-esque. I'd say he's more of a Fey Warlock with some Rogue thrown in.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Nah. Neverland is the patron. PP is just the chosen one to protect it. The lost boys and girls don't get any powers as much as they are enslaved.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Nah. Neverland is the patron. PP is just the chosen one to protect it. The lost boys and girls don't get any powers as much as they are enslaved.
no. Neverland is not the patron. Neverland responds to the whims of Peter. Any Deviation from that is by adapters. But By the Writer and the Way Peter Pan was written, everything about the island is entirely to suit Peter. Even the Pirates ending up in the Bay was all just because Peter wanted a Pirate adventure. The reason they could never leave is because they were caught up in his sphere of influence. Peter Picks the Games. Peter decides the Adventures and Peter comes and goes whenever and however he likes. Not even Neverland holds him under any actual sway. Not even Tinkerbell, who to some extent is expressed as might be the center to many of the powers and goings on actually has any sway over Peter. She serves his whims at his desire and he is known in the books for coming and going even without her or her permission. She doesn't actually like him making trips to the human world.
Also In D&D. While the faewyld is it's own living thing to an extent. But it is not fully sentient enough so It is not Patron Capable. It needs a Strong Fae Creature to shape it and give it structure and it obeys that creature.
Finally the Lost boys and girls do have powers. They all have things like Flight and regenerative abilities. There are also certain other qualities to them that would be considered Powers but on a less noticable and passive level. That does not mean that they cannot also be slaves to the Whims of Peter. They are not mutually exclusive.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Nah. Neverland is the patron. PP is just the chosen one to protect it. The lost boys and girls don't get any powers as much as they are enslaved.
no. Neverland is not the patron. Neverland responds to the whims of Peter. Any Deviation from that is by adapters. But By the Writer and the Way Peter Pan was written, everything about the island is entirely to suit Peter. Even the Pirates ending up in the Bay was all just because Peter wanted a Pirate adventure. The reason they could never leave is because they were caught up in his sphere of influence. Peter Picks the Games. Peter decides the Adventures and Peter comes and goes whenever and however he likes. Not even Neverland holds him under any actual sway. Not even Tinkerbell, who to some extent is expressed as might be the center to many of the powers and goings on actually has any sway over Peter. She serves his whims at his desire and he is known in the books for coming and going even without her or her permission. She doesn't actually like him making trips to the human world.
Also In D&D. While the faewyld is it's own living thing to an extent. But it is not fully sentient enough so It is not Patron Capable. It needs a Strong Fae Creature to shape it and give it structure and it obeys that creature.
Finally the Lost boys and girls do have powers. They all have things like Flight and regenerative abilities. There are also certain other qualities to them that would be considered Powers but on a less noticable and passive level. That does not mean that they cannot also be slaves to the Whims of Peter. They are not mutually exclusive.
Except that Neverland and teh fairies were there before Peter Pan, which shows that Pan isn't the originator of the powers. Just because some of the other servants aren't as powerful as PP is, doesn't mean that he is the fae lord.
Also, you don't have to have Neverland as the feywild for it to act as a patron (although there isn't really anything preventing it either. It could easily be just a manifestation of the fey that has become the land or it doesn't even need to be fey at all. Could be a living place that is in actually an old one.
In any case, it's quite established that Peter Pan is *not* a Ranger in the D&D sense.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Nah. Neverland is the patron. PP is just the chosen one to protect it. The lost boys and girls don't get any powers as much as they are enslaved.
no. Neverland is not the patron. Neverland responds to the whims of Peter. Any Deviation from that is by adapters. But By the Writer and the Way Peter Pan was written, everything about the island is entirely to suit Peter. Even the Pirates ending up in the Bay was all just because Peter wanted a Pirate adventure. The reason they could never leave is because they were caught up in his sphere of influence. Peter Picks the Games. Peter decides the Adventures and Peter comes and goes whenever and however he likes. Not even Neverland holds him under any actual sway. Not even Tinkerbell, who to some extent is expressed as might be the center to many of the powers and goings on actually has any sway over Peter. She serves his whims at his desire and he is known in the books for coming and going even without her or her permission. She doesn't actually like him making trips to the human world.
Also In D&D. While the faewyld is it's own living thing to an extent. But it is not fully sentient enough so It is not Patron Capable. It needs a Strong Fae Creature to shape it and give it structure and it obeys that creature.
Finally the Lost boys and girls do have powers. They all have things like Flight and regenerative abilities. There are also certain other qualities to them that would be considered Powers but on a less noticable and passive level. That does not mean that they cannot also be slaves to the Whims of Peter. They are not mutually exclusive.
Except that Neverland and teh fairies were there before Peter Pan, which shows that Pan isn't the originator of the powers. Just because some of the other servants aren't as powerful as PP is, doesn't mean that he is the fae lord.
Also, you don't have to have Neverland as the feywild for it to act as a patron (although there isn't really anything preventing it either. It could easily be just a manifestation of the fey that has become the land or it doesn't even need to be fey at all. Could be a living place that is in actually an old one.
In any case, it's quite established that Peter Pan is *not* a Ranger in the D&D sense.
We don't know that the faeries were expressly in Neverland Before Peter. We know that they came to him and took him to Neverland. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't shaped of Peter's own will out of something else. They could have easily technically been somewhere else before him. Or been willed into being by his control.
Also. It does mean that he is the Fae Lord if they are not as strong as he is. That's the point of the Fae Lords. They hold sway over everything else and are in charge because of their Eldritch and almost Nebulous powers. That is the point of Fae Lords. They are the most powerful beigns around. Powerful enough to command others of their kind. Some of them being old enough and powerful enough to basically be Gods.
And in D&D. Neverland would be part of the Faewyld or a subrealm offshoot of it. Because that is the Faerie world. But it could not be the Fae Lord to be the Patron because that's not how the Fae work. Fae Lords do not respond to every whim of their lessers. Everything else responds to their Whims. And it's the Fae Lords that have the Power to be Patrons. Not just your average Fae folk beneath them.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Nah. Neverland is the patron. PP is just the chosen one to protect it. The lost boys and girls don't get any powers as much as they are enslaved.
no. Neverland is not the patron. Neverland responds to the whims of Peter. Any Deviation from that is by adapters. But By the Writer and the Way Peter Pan was written, everything about the island is entirely to suit Peter. Even the Pirates ending up in the Bay was all just because Peter wanted a Pirate adventure. The reason they could never leave is because they were caught up in his sphere of influence. Peter Picks the Games. Peter decides the Adventures and Peter comes and goes whenever and however he likes. Not even Neverland holds him under any actual sway. Not even Tinkerbell, who to some extent is expressed as might be the center to many of the powers and goings on actually has any sway over Peter. She serves his whims at his desire and he is known in the books for coming and going even without her or her permission. She doesn't actually like him making trips to the human world.
Also In D&D. While the faewyld is it's own living thing to an extent. But it is not fully sentient enough so It is not Patron Capable. It needs a Strong Fae Creature to shape it and give it structure and it obeys that creature.
Finally the Lost boys and girls do have powers. They all have things like Flight and regenerative abilities. There are also certain other qualities to them that would be considered Powers but on a less noticable and passive level. That does not mean that they cannot also be slaves to the Whims of Peter. They are not mutually exclusive.
Except that Neverland and teh fairies were there before Peter Pan, which shows that Pan isn't the originator of the powers. Just because some of the other servants aren't as powerful as PP is, doesn't mean that he is the fae lord.
Also, you don't have to have Neverland as the feywild for it to act as a patron (although there isn't really anything preventing it either. It could easily be just a manifestation of the fey that has become the land or it doesn't even need to be fey at all. Could be a living place that is in actually an old one.
In any case, it's quite established that Peter Pan is *not* a Ranger in the D&D sense.
We don't know that the faeries were expressly in Neverland Before Peter. We know that they came to him and took him to Neverland. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't shaped of Peter's own will out of something else. They could have easily technically been somewhere else before him. Or been willed into being by his control.
Or Peter could have been willed into existance by the faeries. You're just speculating now.
Also. It does mean that he is the Fae Lord if they are not as strong as he is. That's the point of the Fae Lords. They hold sway over everything else and are in charge because of their Eldritch and almost Nebulous powers. That is the point of Fae Lords. They are the most powerful beigns around. Powerful enough to command others of their kind. Some of them being old enough and powerful enough to basically be Gods.
You are creating your own definition of what a Fey Lord is. Just because one fey is stronger than another doesn't mean it automatically becomes a lord.
And in D&D. Neverland would be part of the Faewyld or a subrealm offshoot of it. Because that is the Faerie world. But it could not be the Fae Lord to be the Patron because that's not how the Fae work. Fae Lords do not respond to every whim of their lessers. Everything else responds to their Whims. And it's the Fae Lords that have the Power to be Patrons. Not just your average Fae folk beneath them.
Yeah, now you're just speculating. Since Neverland isn't an official setting there is literally nothing that says it must be a part of the Feywild. It's could part of a dreamlike realm ruled by a GOO, it could be part of the astral sea or it could be an actual place in the Prime Material plane. So sure, if this is how you want to do, nothing is stopping you. But you are basically just making it up as you go along. There is no reason why it can't be different, especially since there is so much evidence pointing in other directions. Like the fact that Neverland was there before Peter Pan.
There is no proof Neverland actually was there before Peter Pan. Not even in the original writings is that in any way confirmed. That's an assumption that Adaptations tend to make when they want to reinvent the story of Peter Pan.
There is no proof Neverland actually was there before Peter Pan. Not even in the original writings is that in any way confirmed. That's an assumption that Adaptations tend to make when they want to reinvent the story of Peter Pan.
Uhm, yeah. PP is a normal human boy and it doesn't say anything about him creating Neverland.
Gotta say, this made me laugh. Let's stick to straight facts about IRL Peter Pan's D&D class and stop the BS speculation please! XD
What are you even on about? Didn't you read the whole thread? That was a reply to the claim that Neverland is part of the Feywild. Since Neverland isn't in any D&D setting, claiming that it is part of the Feywild is de facto just speculating.
Peter did start as a Human Infant... a Seven Day-old infant who learned how to fly from fairies and birds. Look up Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens which started as chapters from another book called The Little White Bird, written by the Same Person as the Original Stage Play of Peter Pan. After the success of the play, he later extracted those chapters and released them as a standalone with added illustrations.
In Short Yes the fairies existed Before Pan, and Yes Peter Is Human >.>
Edit: Also if you go by the Disney Version instead then you have to accept that Hook is part of that Umbrella and Thusly Peter is still Human and can age outside of Neverland x3
Late at night thought, Peter Pan is a Fey Wanderer Ranger, right?
Yes!
Not really. He has wisdom as a dump stat (he's a very irresponsible kid who does A LOT of dumb shit) and he's also kind of a jerk (kidnapping people to play with him, being rude), doesn't have any real survival skills that stand out and he's generally not very ranger-esque. I'd say he's more of a Fey Warlock with some Rogue thrown in.
Fair but the fey wanderer ranger has the dancing shadow thing that peter has.
You can do that with illusion magic.
Definitely a ranger. Dueling fighting style. Deft explorer with ex in acrobatics.
Peter Pan is outright one of the Fae Folk. He's tricking you into thinking he's anything even remotely close to a PC with PC classes. But if you really examine him he has a kind of control over his area of the faewyld like some kind of Fae Lord and it is shaped to suit his whims.
In Other Words if he's anything. He's the Patron... Not the Warlock. And you become one of his lost boys/lost girls if you make a pact with him.
Nah. Neverland is the patron. PP is just the chosen one to protect it. The lost boys and girls don't get any powers as much as they are enslaved.
no. Neverland is not the patron. Neverland responds to the whims of Peter. Any Deviation from that is by adapters. But By the Writer and the Way Peter Pan was written, everything about the island is entirely to suit Peter. Even the Pirates ending up in the Bay was all just because Peter wanted a Pirate adventure. The reason they could never leave is because they were caught up in his sphere of influence. Peter Picks the Games. Peter decides the Adventures and Peter comes and goes whenever and however he likes. Not even Neverland holds him under any actual sway. Not even Tinkerbell, who to some extent is expressed as might be the center to many of the powers and goings on actually has any sway over Peter. She serves his whims at his desire and he is known in the books for coming and going even without her or her permission. She doesn't actually like him making trips to the human world.
Also In D&D. While the faewyld is it's own living thing to an extent. But it is not fully sentient enough so It is not Patron Capable. It needs a Strong Fae Creature to shape it and give it structure and it obeys that creature.
Finally the Lost boys and girls do have powers. They all have things like Flight and regenerative abilities. There are also certain other qualities to them that would be considered Powers but on a less noticable and passive level. That does not mean that they cannot also be slaves to the Whims of Peter. They are not mutually exclusive.
Except that Neverland and teh fairies were there before Peter Pan, which shows that Pan isn't the originator of the powers. Just because some of the other servants aren't as powerful as PP is, doesn't mean that he is the fae lord.
Also, you don't have to have Neverland as the feywild for it to act as a patron (although there isn't really anything preventing it either. It could easily be just a manifestation of the fey that has become the land or it doesn't even need to be fey at all. Could be a living place that is in actually an old one.
In any case, it's quite established that Peter Pan is *not* a Ranger in the D&D sense.
We don't know that the faeries were expressly in Neverland Before Peter. We know that they came to him and took him to Neverland. But that doesn't mean that it wasn't shaped of Peter's own will out of something else. They could have easily technically been somewhere else before him. Or been willed into being by his control.
Also. It does mean that he is the Fae Lord if they are not as strong as he is. That's the point of the Fae Lords. They hold sway over everything else and are in charge because of their Eldritch and almost Nebulous powers. That is the point of Fae Lords. They are the most powerful beigns around. Powerful enough to command others of their kind. Some of them being old enough and powerful enough to basically be Gods.
And in D&D. Neverland would be part of the Faewyld or a subrealm offshoot of it. Because that is the Faerie world. But it could not be the Fae Lord to be the Patron because that's not how the Fae work. Fae Lords do not respond to every whim of their lessers. Everything else responds to their Whims. And it's the Fae Lords that have the Power to be Patrons. Not just your average Fae folk beneath them.
Or Peter could have been willed into existance by the faeries. You're just speculating now.
You are creating your own definition of what a Fey Lord is. Just because one fey is stronger than another doesn't mean it automatically becomes a lord.
Yeah, now you're just speculating. Since Neverland isn't an official setting there is literally nothing that says it must be a part of the Feywild. It's could part of a dreamlike realm ruled by a GOO, it could be part of the astral sea or it could be an actual place in the Prime Material plane. So sure, if this is how you want to do, nothing is stopping you. But you are basically just making it up as you go along. There is no reason why it can't be different, especially since there is so much evidence pointing in other directions. Like the fact that Neverland was there before Peter Pan.
There is no proof Neverland actually was there before Peter Pan. Not even in the original writings is that in any way confirmed. That's an assumption that Adaptations tend to make when they want to reinvent the story of Peter Pan.
Gotta say, this made me laugh. Let's stick to straight facts about IRL Peter Pan's D&D class and stop the BS speculation please! XD
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Uhm, yeah. PP is a normal human boy and it doesn't say anything about him creating Neverland.
What are you even on about? Didn't you read the whole thread? That was a reply to the claim that Neverland is part of the Feywild. Since Neverland isn't in any D&D setting, claiming that it is part of the Feywild is de facto just speculating.
Still say Peter Pan is Fey Wanderer Ranger.
Peter did start as a Human Infant... a Seven Day-old infant who learned how to fly from fairies and birds. Look up Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens which started as chapters from another book called The Little White Bird, written by the Same Person as the Original Stage Play of Peter Pan. After the success of the play, he later extracted those chapters and released them as a standalone with added illustrations.
In Short Yes the fairies existed Before Pan, and Yes Peter Is Human >.>
Edit: Also if you go by the Disney Version instead then you have to accept that Hook is part of that Umbrella and Thusly Peter is still Human and can age outside of Neverland x3
Despite all the evidence being against this? OK.
a child is stolen by a fairy and is granted the powers of flight and immortality?
Peter pan's a warlock, and tinkerbell is his patron!
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Yeah, that is the leading theory that we have presented. :)