Small feature request: The button on the Character Builder Class page that is next to the level select dropdown is a pretty destructive button if you are fairly high level. It's not super clear what this button does. We had a player press it without knowing and we needed to rebuild his character. A simple confirmation would help alleviate that.
That ❎ or ❌ symbol is fairly ubiquitous. It’s the button to close browser tabs, to close documents, to close… well… just about anything on a computer. It deletes apps as well now too. Basically, when it comes to pretty much anything having anything to do with computers, a ❎/❌ button is some variation of “close/delete.” Heck, on iOS it is the symbol used for the “delete” key. A ❎/❌ button has indicated close/delete/“mike it be gone” on computers since, when…? Well, as it turns out, since 1995,^ and has been the industry standard since 2001.^^ So for the past 20 years, pretty much everyone everywhere has been taught to recognize a ❎/❌ button anywhere in a GUI/UX system as a “close/delete” button. Humanity has universally adopted many other symbols too, such as: 🛑, ⛔️, 🚫, ⚠️, 🅿️, ☢️, ☣️, ♻️, 🚮, ⏯, ♾, ➗, ☮️, ♿️, 🚼, 🚺, 🚹, 🚻….
Strange, I get a "Remove Class" confirmation pop-up in red when I click the X. Was this player using a particular browser? The mobile app?
You know what? There is a confirmation. I posted this for a friend and he didn't mention a confirmation. He has limited sight and uses a magnifier usually. Maybe he just missed it. Sorry for the errant post.
There is an inherent system of symbols in our societies and some are basically global in use where applicable.
I can sorta-vaguely-maybe-stretch-my-brain-possibly understand when people dislike the content toggles because they struggle with "red = on". I struggle to agree with it, because for all of my life "red = on" has been very prevalent in most of the tech I have ever experienced. A red light has, for nearly all my gadgetry from TVs to computers to phones and more, indicated "this is on/has power". Plus, I also get the context of design: white background, lots of prominent red in theme for active elements - throughout the site, including the logo. So, toggle = same as background easily translates to "off" while "lit" / "red" / etc, contrasts and translates to "on". This is so ingrained that I cannot help be confused by people who don't understand the toggles. I can, however, realise that experienced with "red light" regarding techie things may have been different for people in other places (although, even that is limited because even elsewhere the red light signalling off is only when the on is also a contrasting colour like blue or green, since the toggles only have a "lit" or "unlit" state, really, but whatevs).
But that cultural subjectivity doesn't even work in this case. As Sposta has explained, quite brilliantly, the "cross" symbol is a very global thing, used everywhere - very consistently. So, the red x in and of itself should be all you need to understand that it does. This combined with naruhoodie's correct assertation that there actually is a confirmation popup (which I have tested does appear in Edge, Firefox, Chrome and Opera browsers on desktop or accessing website on mobile device - the app doesn't let you edit character class levels yet) and.. well, I have to be confused by your post. Best I can figure, you clicked too quickly when not paying attention, which meant clicking through the popup without realising it.
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EDIT: And mystery solved while I was typing the above and testing stuff. Glad ya figured it out! ^_^
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I can sorta-vaguely-maybe-stretch-my-brain-possibly understand when people dislike the content toggles because they struggle with "red = on". I struggle to agree with it, because for all of my life "red = on" has been very prevalent in most of the tech I have ever experienced. A red light has, for nearly all my gadgetry from TVs to computers to phones and more, indicated "this is on/has power". Plus, I also get the context of design: white background, lots of prominent red in theme for active elements - throughout the site, including the logo. So, toggle = same as background easily translates to "off" while "lit" / "red" / etc, contrasts and translates to "on".
I gotta admit it confused me for a minute when I was first using this site. I was also able to figure it out based on the design context, but the little red LED on my electronics that indicates the batteries have juice, or the thing is plugged in never even once entered into my thought process on the subject until I read your post here now.
You have been seeing those little red lights on all those devices forever and use that as a means of perceiving information. I haven’t. You know in the old cartoons how you could always tell which book on the bookshelf the character was going to interact with because the rest were part of the background cell and drawn & colored as background, but the book in question was drawn and colored as part of the main animation so it just looked different? Or in video games how you can tell which buildings are just part of the landscape and which you can enter because of a similar difference in the aesthetics? My brain automatically registers stuff like those little red lights as “background cell/landscape,” so while my eyes see them, they don’t actually register as any more significant than the rest of the books Fred, Daphnis and the gang were obviously never gonna interact with. I only really become aware of a power light at all if I am specifically looking for one because I want that specific information at that moment for a particular reason. (It’s a throwback trait from our Neolithic era when people needed to determine if something running through their field of vision at high speeds was either “I can eats,” or “can eats me” faster than the creature could run. Since that little red light is neither a resource nor a source of danger, it’s relevance is so low as to not actually even register as existing in my everyday mind. 💁♂️)
Instead, my mind instantly made a very different association based on another globally adopted set of standardized symbols, specifically: 🚦(or 🚥). Every country in which I have ever driven uses those specifically because everyone recognizes them. So I saw 🔴, and my brain instantly registered that as 🚫/🛑/🖐. However, when I flipped the toggles and they went to ⚪️ Instead of 🟢, that’s when I realized I should not be looking for anything symbolizing ✅/🆗/👍 as they would not be forthcoming since I had already found it in an unexpected guise.
Small feature request: The button on the Character Builder Class page that is next to the level select dropdown is a pretty destructive button if you are fairly high level. It's not super clear what this button does. We had a player press it without knowing and we needed to rebuild his character. A simple confirmation would help alleviate that.
Thank you!
Strange, I get a "Remove Class" confirmation pop-up in red when I click the X. Was this player using a particular browser? The mobile app?
Helpful rewriter of Japanese->English translation and delver into software codebases (she/e/they)
That ❎ or ❌ symbol is fairly ubiquitous. It’s the button to close browser tabs, to close documents, to close… well… just about anything on a computer. It deletes apps as well now too. Basically, when it comes to pretty much anything having anything to do with computers, a ❎/❌ button is some variation of “close/delete.” Heck, on iOS it is the symbol used for the “delete” key. A ❎/❌ button has indicated close/delete/“mike it be gone” on computers since, when…? Well, as it turns out, since 1995,^ and has been the industry standard since 2001.^^ So for the past 20 years, pretty much everyone everywhere has been taught to recognize a ❎/❌ button anywhere in a GUI/UX system as a “close/delete” button. Humanity has universally adopted many other symbols too, such as: 🛑, ⛔️, 🚫, ⚠️, 🅿️, ☢️, ☣️, ♻️, 🚮, ⏯, ♾, ➗, ☮️, ♿️, 🚼, 🚺, 🚹, 🚻….
^https://medium.com/re-form/x-to-close-417936dfc0dc
^^https://www.fastcompany.com/3038302/how-the-close-button-was-born
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You know what? There is a confirmation. I posted this for a friend and he didn't mention a confirmation. He has limited sight and uses a magnifier usually. Maybe he just missed it. Sorry for the errant post.
There is an inherent system of symbols in our societies and some are basically global in use where applicable.
I can sorta-vaguely-maybe-stretch-my-brain-possibly understand when people dislike the content toggles because they struggle with "red = on". I struggle to agree with it, because for all of my life "red = on" has been very prevalent in most of the tech I have ever experienced. A red light has, for nearly all my gadgetry from TVs to computers to phones and more, indicated "this is on/has power". Plus, I also get the context of design: white background, lots of prominent red in theme for active elements - throughout the site, including the logo. So, toggle = same as background easily translates to "off" while "lit" / "red" / etc, contrasts and translates to "on". This is so ingrained that I cannot help be confused by people who don't understand the toggles. I can, however, realise that experienced with "red light" regarding techie things may have been different for people in other places (although, even that is limited because even elsewhere the red light signalling off is only when the on is also a contrasting colour like blue or green, since the toggles only have a "lit" or "unlit" state, really, but whatevs).
But that cultural subjectivity doesn't even work in this case. As Sposta has explained, quite brilliantly, the "cross" symbol is a very global thing, used everywhere - very consistently. So, the red x in and of itself should be all you need to understand that it does. This combined with naruhoodie's correct assertation that there actually is a confirmation popup (which I have tested does appear in Edge, Firefox, Chrome and Opera browsers on desktop or accessing website on mobile device - the app doesn't let you edit character class levels yet) and.. well, I have to be confused by your post. Best I can figure, you clicked too quickly when not paying attention, which meant clicking through the popup without realising it.
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EDIT: And mystery solved while I was typing the above and testing stuff. Glad ya figured it out! ^_^
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I gotta admit it confused me for a minute when I was first using this site. I was also able to figure it out based on the design context, but the little red LED on my electronics that indicates the batteries have juice, or the thing is plugged in never even once entered into my thought process on the subject until I read your post here now.
You have been seeing those little red lights on all those devices forever and use that as a means of perceiving information. I haven’t. You know in the old cartoons how you could always tell which book on the bookshelf the character was going to interact with because the rest were part of the background cell and drawn & colored as background, but the book in question was drawn and colored as part of the main animation so it just looked different? Or in video games how you can tell which buildings are just part of the landscape and which you can enter because of a similar difference in the aesthetics? My brain automatically registers stuff like those little red lights as “background cell/landscape,” so while my eyes see them, they don’t actually register as any more significant than the rest of the books Fred, Daphnis and the gang were obviously never gonna interact with. I only really become aware of a power light at all if I am specifically looking for one because I want that specific information at that moment for a particular reason. (It’s a throwback trait from our Neolithic era when people needed to determine if something running through their field of vision at high speeds was either “I can eats,” or “can eats me” faster than the creature could run. Since that little red light is neither a resource nor a source of danger, it’s relevance is so low as to not actually even register as existing in my everyday mind. 💁♂️)
Instead, my mind instantly made a very different association based on another globally adopted set of standardized symbols, specifically: 🚦(or 🚥). Every country in which I have ever driven uses those specifically because everyone recognizes them. So I saw 🔴, and my brain instantly registered that as 🚫/🛑/🖐. However, when I flipped the toggles and they went to ⚪️ Instead of 🟢, that’s when I realized I should not be looking for anything symbolizing ✅/🆗/👍 as they would not be forthcoming since I had already found it in an unexpected guise.
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