We know that Wizards would not give you a free version of a D&D book digitally, just because you bought a physical book.
But what about discounts?
Lots of companies give discounts, and it seems more reasonable for someone to get a discount if they already have another version of the thing.
Say, if you buy a book's physical copy, you get 25% off the digital version. It would not lose Wizards much money right? It could even make them more since more people would be less hesitant to buy a digital copy of something they already have the physical version of if they get a discount on it?
This would help a lot of people who need both versions, or got physical first and now need the digital version as well
I'm 99% that this is wishful thinking, but at least a small discount seems reasonable right?
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Say, if you buy a book's physical copy, you get 25% off the digital version. It would not lose Wizards much money right? It could even make them more since more people would be less hesitant to buy a digital copy of something they already have the physical version of if they get a discount on it?
There have been a handful of posts made about codes being put in physical books and the costs of doing so, so I'm not going to touch on that. But D&D Beyond does quite often run discounts on, typically, all books in the marketplace and usually, they are right around 25%.
The thing is, you're talking about getting people to double dip. They buy (the already expensive) physical book, then they buy the same content on here (plus the functionality). How much are they going to pay extra for that? Will they be willing to pay $23 to get the book they've already paid $50 for?
I don't know the answer to that question. Maybe a 25% discount will be enough for that compromise between maximising profit per sale and maximising sales. However, if WotC wants people to double dip, that's the kind of question that needs to be answered. How much of a discount is required to persuade people to double dip? Are there other deals they can do to persuade people to double dip? Is there even a market for it?
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I dunno. You'd figure putting $147 million down to purchase a company, there should be some satisfaction with that company's current sales figures, at least enough to keep the pricing model for the foreseeable future (at least until they have a new product line they can play with so as to not gain the ire of folks who did buy into both without some sort of buyout predicated discount).
I dunno. You'd figure putting $147 million down to purchase a company, there should be some satisfaction with that company's current sales figures, at least enough to keep the pricing model for the foreseeable future (at least until they have a new product line they can play with so as to not gain the ire of folks who did buy into both without some sort of buyout predicated discount).
That's...not why you buy a company. You buy a company because:
1. You want to obtain functionality that it cannot or will not provide outside of your umbrella.
2. It's undervalued. Usually because you think it has higher potential than its current owners are getting out if it - and therefore would be willing to sell it for less than its worth with that potential in mind. A similar principle to a fixer-upper.
3. You wish to deny your competitors the ability to use the resource. Obviously not applicable to DDB - at least, according to my knowledge.
4. Your competitors are threatening to do number 3 to you. Maybe there is someone threatening to buy out DDB and stop them from working with WotC? Heck of a long shot, though.
5. You're Elon Musk.
I'm sure there are other reasons too. The point is, you don't spend $147million on something because you're happy with the way things are headed. You spend that money because you don't like where it's going (or at least, not as much as if you had control) and want to change it to suit your needs better.
Thunk of it this way. If public transport suits all your needs, the pricing is low enough that it isn't going to be cheaper to have your own car, its schedule is good enough to get you where you want to be and when you want to be there, then you're *not* going to lay out thousands of bucks on buying a car for yourself. You'd rather spend that money on a nice holiday for your family or something, right? Instead, if you're buying a car, it's because something isn't working right with public transport. It doesn't get there fast enough, the schedule doesn't work for you, getting shopping home is a pain in the backside. Whatever. So you lay out a few thousands in order to alleviate that problem, not because you're over the moon with how things are going.
Same with this purchase. WotC see some kind of advantage in changing the direction things are heading. The onlynway the status quo will be maintained is if the current owners are undervaluing the company (perhaps they were looking to offload for personal reasons) and WotC saw a bargain. Otherwise, they'll be looking to change things because something wasn't working they think is best. Granted, we may never see it because it's possible that change is merely backend stuff. However, there will almost certainly be changes.
To bring this back around, will part of that change be to alter marketing strategies? To offer integration of offers and encourage "double dipping" as I described earlier? Maybe. Who knows. Maybe they think DDB undersells itself and the Spelljammer pricing will become the norm. Again, who knows. We'll find out over the next couple of years as we see DDB develop over the next few years.
However, they didn't spend $147million because they were happy with how things were.
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It is reasonable to ask for discounts, deals, price drops, sales, savings, or whatever. However, it is unreasonable to assume there is a discount, or demand a discount, just because of some factor people think of. If a product or seller does not explicitly advertise about future discounts, then it is commonly understood that there is no such discounts by default.
If you want discounts based on past purchases, that is generally reserved for loyal customers who buy things in bulk. Businesses do not care about individual consumers who only purchase a few products here and there, so owning a few books does not entitle a person to anything. Even if a person owns the entire physical book collection, it still means jack squat for Beyond because there is no established business relationship between that person and Beyond; the person is not even Beyond's customer to begin with, let alone a loyal one. Why should Beyond or even Wizards cater to these people anymore than anyone else?
I dunno. You'd figure putting $147 million down to purchase a company, there should be some satisfaction with that company's current sales figures, at least enough to keep the pricing model for the foreseeable future (at least until they have a new product line they can play with so as to not gain the ire of folks who did buy into both without some sort of buyout predicated discount).
That's...not why you buy a company. You buy a company because:
1. You want to obtain functionality that it cannot or will not provide outside of your umbrella.
2. It's undervalued. Usually because you think it has higher potential than its current owners are getting out if it - and therefore would be willing to sell it for less than its worth with that potential in mind. A similar principle to a fixer-upper.
3. You wish to deny your competitors the ability to use the resource. Obviously not applicable to DDB - at least, according to my knowledge.
4. Your competitors are threatening to do number 3 to you. Maybe there is someone threatening to buy out DDB and stop them from working with WotC? Heck of a long shot, though.
5. You're Elon Musk.
I'm sure there are other reasons too. The point is, you don't spend $147million on something because you're happy with the way things are headed. You spend that money because you don't like where it's going (or at least, not as much as if you had control) and want to change it to suit your needs better.
Thunk of it this way. If public transport suits all your needs, the pricing is low enough that it isn't going to be cheaper to have your own car, its schedule is good enough to get you where you want to be and when you want to be there, then you're *not* going to lay out thousands of bucks on buying a car for yourself. You'd rather spend that money on a nice holiday for your family or something, right? Instead, if you're buying a car, it's because something isn't working right with public transport. It doesn't get there fast enough, the schedule doesn't work for you, getting shopping home is a pain in the backside. Whatever. So you lay out a few thousands in order to alleviate that problem, not because you're over the moon with how things are going.
Same with this purchase. WotC see some kind of advantage in changing the direction things are heading. The onlynway the status quo will be maintained is if the current owners are undervaluing the company (perhaps they were looking to offload for personal reasons) and WotC saw a bargain. Otherwise, they'll be looking to change things because something wasn't working they think is best. Granted, we may never see it because it's possible that change is merely backend stuff. However, there will almost certainly be changes.
To bring this back around, will part of that change be to alter marketing strategies? To offer integration of offers and encourage "double dipping" as I described earlier? Maybe. Who knows. Maybe they think DDB undersells itself and the Spelljammer pricing will become the norm. Again, who knows. We'll find out over the next couple of years as we see DDB develop over the next few years.
However, they didn't spend $147million because they were happy with how things were.
6) It fits with your corporate brand/is within your wheelhouse and you would rather be the ones reaping the profits than whichever third party was doing so prior to the purchase. It is not a non-profit they are acquiring.
Your local game store is also profitable, I highly doubt WotC will buy it though. Or would, even if they were particularly aware of it. Purchases occur when two people value something differently, so they exchange. The revenues have value and market rate. Hasbro and WotC, for whatever reason, valued DDB as being greater than $150million +/- taxes and admin fees and whatever other costs come with the purchase, while Fandom values it less than that. Either Fandom just wanted shot of DDB, or WotC plan to make it more efficient or more effective, or they want to use various assets for their own purposes and it was simpler to buy the the whole thing. For WotC to value it more than Fandom, unless Fandom just wants shot of it, it's because they want to make changes. As I mentioned before, those changes may not be anything consumer-facing and we may never know what those changes will be or were, but there will be changes. The disparity of valuation didn't magically appear - If DDB brings in $30million per year, that's just as valuable to either side and wouldn't ordinarily result in a sale.
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It is reasonable to ask for discounts, deals, price drops, sales, savings, or whatever. However, it is unreasonable to assume there is a discount, or demand a discount, just because of some factor people think of. If a product or seller does not explicitly advertise about future discounts, then it is commonly understood that there is no such discounts by default.
If you want discounts based on past purchases, that is generally reserved for loyal customers who buy things in bulk. Businesses do not care about individual consumers who only purchase a few products here and there, so owning a few books does not entitle a person to anything. Even if a person owns the entire physical book collection, it still means jack squat for Beyond because there is no established business relationship between that person and Beyond; the person is not even Beyond's customer to begin with, let alone a loyal one. Why should Beyond or even Wizards cater to these people anymore than anyone else?
As I said, the value of double dipping. They aren't going to get many people to buy both physical and DDB stuff, but they'd like us to do so. So, offer a compromise where it's cheaper to buy both (versus their individual price). That's a very, very common strategy - I rarely get through the day without being offered something like that. BOGOF, 3for2, etc. It's also good for returning customers, which is vital for DDB. Heck, with another gaming system, I bought PDFs of their games (legitimately), I was interested in obtaining physical copies and after gently enquiring about their policy, they gave me a substantial discount. They immediately got several sales that I was debating, and get glowing reviews. I'm also very likely to look to them to expand my game collection, both in that game and others.
There are a lot of reasons why WotC might want to consider these options (and there are others). Up until now, they've obviously considered it not worth it. They probably won't in the future either, but that's not to say that there aren't valid business reasons for working out a deal of some kind.
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Who here believes Wizards of the Coast owes them free replacement dead tree edition books for life after purchasing one copy of a book once? That no matter what, you should be able to contact Wizzerds and say "I lost/gave away/ruined/burned for warmth my copy of the 5e PHB. Send me another one," and receive a replacement PHB for freebies an infinite number of times?
Nobody?
Nobody believes that?
Then why the god damned Shatnerblasting murderous man**** do people believe the digital product should be Infinitely Free Forever just because they bought one mutilated tree once?
The digital edition is not "lesser". It is not a side product. It is not cheap convention swag they give away to entice sales of the 'real' product. The digital edition is just as much Official D&D as the dead tree edition, and frankly Dead Tree is overpriced and underuseful. A physical book is more difficult, more annoying, and less timely to use than even just a basic PDF, let alone a full-flight reference service like DDB. Physical books are collector's pieces whose job is to sit pretty on a shelf and prove your dedication to the product, not to be useful gaming tools.
Is it 'unreasonable' to ask for freebies and discounts? Doesn't matter, people do it several billion times a second around here anyways. But next time, maybe ask yourself if you're owed free Legendary Bundles because you bought a single D&D-branded T-shirt once. Or maybe an expensive dice set from an Etsy store. Or because you're always the one buying the pizza for game night. After all, owning a ritually defiled tree corpse in the shape of a 5e PHB has about as much relation to owning a DDB integrated game source as any of those other things.
It is not a side product. It is not cheap convention swag they give away to entice sales of the 'real' product.The digital edition is just as much
The discount would be the "convention swag" to entice people into buying the digital version as well.
The key thing to understand is: it doesn't matter whether it would make business sense to offer a discount to people who own the physical product, because they can't:
Wizards has no way of confirming that you actually own the physical product.
Wizards has no feasible way of changing that state of affairs, even if they wanted to (I guarantee any ideas you come up with will be expensive and easy to spoof).
It is not a side product. It is not cheap convention swag they give away to entice sales of the 'real' product.The digital edition is just as much
The discount would be the "convention swag" to entice people into buying the digital version as well.
The key thing to understand is: it doesn't matter whether it would make business sense to offer a discount to people who own the physical product, because they can't:
Wizards has no way of confirming that you actually own the physical product.
Wizards has no feasible way of changing that state of affairs, even if they wanted to (I guarantee any ideas you come up with will be expensive and easy to spoof).
DM's Guild shows otherwise. But they do that by having you purchase 1) both versions from them & 2) at the same time. It would be probably be feasible to purchase them at different times with a account / customer support, but 1 is pretty tough to change, and almost definitely rules out supporting your FLGS.
DM's Guild shows otherwise. But they do that by having you purchase 1) both versions from them & 2) at the same time.
That works for online vendors (though, as is demonstrated there, can be accomplished without WotC doing anything), but Wizards doesn't want to give online vendors (further) advantages relative to retail.
DM's Guild shows otherwise. But they do that by having you purchase 1) both versions from them & 2) at the same time.
That works for online vendors (though, as is demonstrated there, can be accomplished without WotC doing anything), but Wizards doesn't want to give online vendors (further) advantages relative to retail.
Offline vendors do it too.
WotC could do it if they wished. I wish people would stop saying that WotC can't, because it's not true. They can. They have made business decision in the past not to do so. That was, and is, their decision to make, and they've said no. That's about as far as it goes, really, in terms of justification. Same with PDFs, and other things, if WotC wanted to, they could. They have decided not to (whether by consideration or by it just not occurring to them).
The acquisition does remove one barrier and alter the equation slightly, so there's a chance that might change their minds, although most likely not. At the end of the day though, WotC have said no. That's That's the product they're offering, and it's either good or not. If you feel it's justified, great. If you don't, well, that's valid too. The product is what it is. No need to pretend that WotC is incapable of doing something, they've just decided that's not part of the product that they offer.
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MSRP for a new book is $50 USD. It is already possible to get the hardback from Amazon for $30 USD (40% off of MSRP), and the full digital version from DDB for $30 USD (also 40% off of MSRP). That’s a total of $60 USD for both versions (a paltry 20% over MSRP for just the hardback). How much more of a discount do you need?
Physical books are collector's pieces whose job is to sit pretty on a shelf and prove your dedication to the product, not to be useful gaming tools.
I do not have ready access to my device when I am playing DnD. Physical books are more common gifts. Especially if your parents/guardians/relatives do not know about DDB or frankly DnD.
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Physical books are collector's pieces whose job is to sit pretty on a shelf and prove your dedication to the product, not to be useful gaming tools.
I do not have ready access to my device when I am playing DnD. Physical books are more common gifts. Especially if your parents/guardians/relatives do not know about DDB or frankly DnD.
Why not? A phone or tablet is smaller than any 5E book from WotC.
As for gifts, tell people what you want for a gift, and how to get it for you, just like any other hobby.
We know that Wizards would not give you a free version of a D&D book digitally, just because you bought a physical book.
But what about discounts?
Lots of companies give discounts, and it seems more reasonable for someone to get a discount if they already have another version of the thing.
Say, if you buy a book's physical copy, you get 25% off the digital version. It would not lose Wizards much money right? It could even make them more since more people would be less hesitant to buy a digital copy of something they already have the physical version of if they get a discount on it?
This would help a lot of people who need both versions, or got physical first and now need the digital version as well
I'm 99% that this is wishful thinking, but at least a small discount seems reasonable right?
I have no opinion on this topic, but I do wonder if you know that 90% of the DDB community becomes "NOOO YOU CAN'T ASK FOR DDB DISCOUNTS FOR PHYSICAL BOOKS" *insert angry wojak meme* whenever this comes up
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Physical books are collector's pieces whose job is to sit pretty on a shelf and prove your dedication to the product, not to be useful gaming tools.
I do not have ready access to my device when I am playing DnD. Physical books are more common gifts. Especially if your parents/guardians/relatives do not know about DDB or frankly DnD.
Yeah, I really don't understand that statement. I use almost exclusively paper books while I DM because I can have them all right next to me at the same time with tabs for common issues, and I know how to navigate them quicker than the DnDBeyond app, A lot of people still use the paper version...
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We know that Wizards would not give you a free version of a D&D book digitally, just because you bought a physical book.
But what about discounts?
Lots of companies give discounts, and it seems more reasonable for someone to get a discount if they already have another version of the thing.
Say, if you buy a book's physical copy, you get 25% off the digital version. It would not lose Wizards much money right? It could even make them more since more people would be less hesitant to buy a digital copy of something they already have the physical version of if they get a discount on it?
This would help a lot of people who need both versions, or got physical first and now need the digital version as well
I'm 99% that this is wishful thinking, but at least a small discount seems reasonable right?
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HERE.There have been a handful of posts made about codes being put in physical books and the costs of doing so, so I'm not going to touch on that. But D&D Beyond does quite often run discounts on, typically, all books in the marketplace and usually, they are right around 25%.
The thing is, you're talking about getting people to double dip. They buy (the already expensive) physical book, then they buy the same content on here (plus the functionality). How much are they going to pay extra for that? Will they be willing to pay $23 to get the book they've already paid $50 for?
I don't know the answer to that question. Maybe a 25% discount will be enough for that compromise between maximising profit per sale and maximising sales. However, if WotC wants people to double dip, that's the kind of question that needs to be answered. How much of a discount is required to persuade people to double dip? Are there other deals they can do to persuade people to double dip? Is there even a market for it?
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I dunno. You'd figure putting $147 million down to purchase a company, there should be some satisfaction with that company's current sales figures, at least enough to keep the pricing model for the foreseeable future (at least until they have a new product line they can play with so as to not gain the ire of folks who did buy into both without some sort of buyout predicated discount).
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The problem is that there's no practical means of doing that.
That's...not why you buy a company. You buy a company because:
1. You want to obtain functionality that it cannot or will not provide outside of your umbrella.
2. It's undervalued. Usually because you think it has higher potential than its current owners are getting out if it - and therefore would be willing to sell it for less than its worth with that potential in mind. A similar principle to a fixer-upper.
3. You wish to deny your competitors the ability to use the resource. Obviously not applicable to DDB - at least, according to my knowledge.
4. Your competitors are threatening to do number 3 to you. Maybe there is someone threatening to buy out DDB and stop them from working with WotC? Heck of a long shot, though.
5. You're Elon Musk.
I'm sure there are other reasons too. The point is, you don't spend $147million on something because you're happy with the way things are headed. You spend that money because you don't like where it's going (or at least, not as much as if you had control) and want to change it to suit your needs better.
Thunk of it this way. If public transport suits all your needs, the pricing is low enough that it isn't going to be cheaper to have your own car, its schedule is good enough to get you where you want to be and when you want to be there, then you're *not* going to lay out thousands of bucks on buying a car for yourself. You'd rather spend that money on a nice holiday for your family or something, right? Instead, if you're buying a car, it's because something isn't working right with public transport. It doesn't get there fast enough, the schedule doesn't work for you, getting shopping home is a pain in the backside. Whatever. So you lay out a few thousands in order to alleviate that problem, not because you're over the moon with how things are going.
Same with this purchase. WotC see some kind of advantage in changing the direction things are heading. The onlynway the status quo will be maintained is if the current owners are undervaluing the company (perhaps they were looking to offload for personal reasons) and WotC saw a bargain. Otherwise, they'll be looking to change things because something wasn't working they think is best. Granted, we may never see it because it's possible that change is merely backend stuff. However, there will almost certainly be changes.
To bring this back around, will part of that change be to alter marketing strategies? To offer integration of offers and encourage "double dipping" as I described earlier? Maybe. Who knows. Maybe they think DDB undersells itself and the Spelljammer pricing will become the norm. Again, who knows. We'll find out over the next couple of years as we see DDB develop over the next few years.
However, they didn't spend $147million because they were happy with how things were.
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It is reasonable to ask for discounts, deals, price drops, sales, savings, or whatever. However, it is unreasonable to assume there is a discount, or demand a discount, just because of some factor people think of. If a product or seller does not explicitly advertise about future discounts, then it is commonly understood that there is no such discounts by default.
If you want discounts based on past purchases, that is generally reserved for loyal customers who buy things in bulk. Businesses do not care about individual consumers who only purchase a few products here and there, so owning a few books does not entitle a person to anything. Even if a person owns the entire physical book collection, it still means jack squat for Beyond because there is no established business relationship between that person and Beyond; the person is not even Beyond's customer to begin with, let alone a loyal one. Why should Beyond or even Wizards cater to these people anymore than anyone else?
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Your local game store is also profitable, I highly doubt WotC will buy it though. Or would, even if they were particularly aware of it. Purchases occur when two people value something differently, so they exchange. The revenues have value and market rate. Hasbro and WotC, for whatever reason, valued DDB as being greater than $150million +/- taxes and admin fees and whatever other costs come with the purchase, while Fandom values it less than that. Either Fandom just wanted shot of DDB, or WotC plan to make it more efficient or more effective, or they want to use various assets for their own purposes and it was simpler to buy the the whole thing. For WotC to value it more than Fandom, unless Fandom just wants shot of it, it's because they want to make changes. As I mentioned before, those changes may not be anything consumer-facing and we may never know what those changes will be or were, but there will be changes. The disparity of valuation didn't magically appear - If DDB brings in $30million per year, that's just as valuable to either side and wouldn't ordinarily result in a sale.
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As I said, the value of double dipping. They aren't going to get many people to buy both physical and DDB stuff, but they'd like us to do so. So, offer a compromise where it's cheaper to buy both (versus their individual price). That's a very, very common strategy - I rarely get through the day without being offered something like that. BOGOF, 3for2, etc. It's also good for returning customers, which is vital for DDB. Heck, with another gaming system, I bought PDFs of their games (legitimately), I was interested in obtaining physical copies and after gently enquiring about their policy, they gave me a substantial discount. They immediately got several sales that I was debating, and get glowing reviews. I'm also very likely to look to them to expand my game collection, both in that game and others.
There are a lot of reasons why WotC might want to consider these options (and there are others). Up until now, they've obviously considered it not worth it. They probably won't in the future either, but that's not to say that there aren't valid business reasons for working out a deal of some kind.
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Query.
Who here believes Wizards of the Coast owes them free replacement dead tree edition books for life after purchasing one copy of a book once? That no matter what, you should be able to contact Wizzerds and say "I lost/gave away/ruined/burned for warmth my copy of the 5e PHB. Send me another one," and receive a replacement PHB for freebies an infinite number of times?
Nobody?
Nobody believes that?
Then why the god damned Shatnerblasting murderous man**** do people believe the digital product should be Infinitely Free Forever just because they bought one mutilated tree once?
The digital edition is not "lesser". It is not a side product. It is not cheap convention swag they give away to entice sales of the 'real' product. The digital edition is just as much Official D&D as the dead tree edition, and frankly Dead Tree is overpriced and underuseful. A physical book is more difficult, more annoying, and less timely to use than even just a basic PDF, let alone a full-flight reference service like DDB. Physical books are collector's pieces whose job is to sit pretty on a shelf and prove your dedication to the product, not to be useful gaming tools.
Is it 'unreasonable' to ask for freebies and discounts? Doesn't matter, people do it several billion times a second around here anyways. But next time, maybe ask yourself if you're owed free Legendary Bundles because you bought a single D&D-branded T-shirt once. Or maybe an expensive dice set from an Etsy store. Or because you're always the one buying the pizza for game night. After all, owning a ritually defiled tree corpse in the shape of a 5e PHB has about as much relation to owning a DDB integrated game source as any of those other things.
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The discount would be the "convention swag" to entice people into buying the digital version as well.
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HERE.The key thing to understand is: it doesn't matter whether it would make business sense to offer a discount to people who own the physical product, because they can't:
DM's Guild shows otherwise. But they do that by having you purchase 1) both versions from them & 2) at the same time. It would be probably be feasible to purchase them at different times with a account / customer support, but 1 is pretty tough to change, and almost definitely rules out supporting your FLGS.
That works for online vendors (though, as is demonstrated there, can be accomplished without WotC doing anything), but Wizards doesn't want to give online vendors (further) advantages relative to retail.
Offline vendors do it too.
WotC could do it if they wished. I wish people would stop saying that WotC can't, because it's not true. They can. They have made business decision in the past not to do so. That was, and is, their decision to make, and they've said no. That's about as far as it goes, really, in terms of justification. Same with PDFs, and other things, if WotC wanted to, they could. They have decided not to (whether by consideration or by it just not occurring to them).
The acquisition does remove one barrier and alter the equation slightly, so there's a chance that might change their minds, although most likely not. At the end of the day though, WotC have said no. That's That's the product they're offering, and it's either good or not. If you feel it's justified, great. If you don't, well, that's valid too. The product is what it is. No need to pretend that WotC is incapable of doing something, they've just decided that's not part of the product that they offer.
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MSRP for a new book is $50 USD. It is already possible to get the hardback from Amazon for $30 USD (40% off of MSRP), and the full digital version from DDB for $30 USD (also 40% off of MSRP). That’s a total of $60 USD for both versions (a paltry 20% over MSRP for just the hardback). How much more of a discount do you need?
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I do not have ready access to my device when I am playing DnD. Physical books are more common gifts. Especially if your parents/guardians/relatives do not know about DDB or frankly DnD.
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Why not? A phone or tablet is smaller than any 5E book from WotC.
As for gifts, tell people what you want for a gift, and how to get it for you, just like any other hobby.
I have no opinion on this topic, but I do wonder if you know that 90% of the DDB community becomes "NOOO YOU CAN'T ASK FOR DDB DISCOUNTS FOR PHYSICAL BOOKS" *insert angry wojak meme* whenever this comes up
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Yeah, I really don't understand that statement. I use almost exclusively paper books while I DM because I can have them all right next to me at the same time with tabs for common issues, and I know how to navigate them quicker than the DnDBeyond app, A lot of people still use the paper version...