Druid may be a Tiefling, but could also be some sort of Fey touched. I was sorta surprised with what seems to be like a low level of non human representation (unlike say most D&D PC parties) but I could see grounding the movie human makes a certain practical and audience engagement sense.
Spoiler tag because a lot of my hunches have been bullseyeing this movie, though it's really just speculation on my end:
Y'all think Hugh Grant is actually a dragon? There's a few walking around Waterdeep IIRC.
That or the bad guy, he has said that he has been threatened on pain of lawsuit, not to give anything away about his character. So there is something suspicious about him.
It has already been confirmed by WotC that she is a tiefling.
Thanks, hopefully the "this looks too fun and isn't edgelord enough crowd" doesn't unite with the revanchist cultural anxiety front who wouldn't surprise me if they start protesting "half devils" in "subversive media" for clicks and fundraising. March releases are supposed to be low key.
I think that crowd is busy prejudging they LotR TV show without having seen it (or without having read the source material judging from most of the comments on it) - I am sure they will come out of the woodworks once they need a new fantasy thing to complain about for no reason!
Jokes (if the depressing reality of widespread intolerance in the fantasy community can really be a joke) aside, I’m sure we’ll get some “purists” who ignore the fact that D&D has always been silly. I, for one, am glad they went with a more silly tone - D&D is at its best when it is a little bit goofy; glad to see they seem to have really committed to that tone.
I am waiting for the neckbeards to pick apart every scene for how it is against RAW, including identifying that character A moves faster then character B, or a character has cast 2 concentration spells, or just 2 spells at once lol.
Druid may be a Tiefling, but could also be some sort of Fey touched. I was sorta surprised with what seems to be like a low level of non human representation (unlike say most D&D PC parties) but I could see grounding the movie human makes a certain practical and audience engagement sense.
Spoiler tag because a lot of my hunches have been bullseyeing this movie, though it's really just speculation on my end:
Y'all think Hugh Grant is actually a dragon? There's a few walking around Waterdeep IIRC.
That or the bad guy, he has said that he has been threatened on pain of lawsuit, not to give anything away about his character. So there is something suspicious about him.
It has already been confirmed by WotC that she is a tiefling.
Thanks, hopefully the "this looks too fun and isn't edgelord enough crowd" doesn't unite with the revanchist cultural anxiety front who wouldn't surprise me if they start protesting "half devils" in "subversive media" for clicks and fundraising. March releases are supposed to be low key.
I think that crowd is busy prejudging they LotR TV show without having seen it (or without having read the source material judging from most of the comments on it) - I am sure they will come out of the woodworks once they need a new fantasy thing to complain about for no reason!
Jokes (if the depressing reality of widespread intolerance in the fantasy community can really be a joke) aside, I’m sure we’ll get some “purists” who ignore the fact that D&D has always been silly. I, for one, am glad they went with a more silly tone - D&D is at its best when it is a little bit goofy; glad to see they seem to have really committed to that tone.
I am waiting for the neckbeards to pick apart every scene for how it is against RAW, including identifying that character A moves faster then character B, or a character has cast 2 concentration spells, or just 2 spells at once lol.
As soon as the trailer dropped social media was on fire for hours complaining about the owlbeard wildshape, but that seems to be a sideshow compared to the otherwise good will D&D fans have given the trailer so far.
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I read a comment elsewhere from someone who hoped that the film would end with a shot of the actors sat around the table playing DND with the idea that the entire movie was a DND session being played out. Am I the only one who hates that idea lol.
I don't know if I hate.it, but I don't have a positive outlook on it, shall we say. They should definitely lean into then being characters etc, but they shouldn't make it explicitly a D&D game like that.
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I read a comment elsewhere from someone who hoped that the film would end with a shot of the actors sat around the table playing DND with the idea that the entire movie was a DND session being played out. Am I the only one who hates that idea lol.
I don't know if I hate.it, but I don't have a positive outlook on it, shall we say. They should definitely lean into then being characters etc, but they shouldn't make it explicitly a D&D game like that.
I don't love the idea, because a lot of people are saying that they want it to be like how it's approached in the Princess Bride or Lego Movie. I don't think that would really work well for a D&D movie, and people have seen that concept executed well before. Tacking it on just because some people think it would be funny is not good screenwriting. I'd only be okay with it if it was extremely minor and/or added a lot to whatever theme the movie has.
I would actually be okay with it if it were combined with the cameo from the cast of Critical Role. If there was a post-credit scene that replays the last scene of the movie and then transitions into Matt Mercer narrating the end of the movie at a table with the rest of the cast of Critical Role, I think that could be fun. Just a minor cameo without undercutting the events of the movie that plays as a hook for people curious about the hobby and fan service for people that like Critical Role. Princess Bride-style would be too much, but a small moment like that that doesn't interrupt the flow of the movie could be good.
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I read a comment elsewhere from someone who hoped that the film would end with a shot of the actors sat around the table playing DND with the idea that the entire movie was a DND session being played out. Am I the only one who hates that idea lol.
I don't know if I hate.it, but I don't have a positive outlook on it, shall we say. They should definitely lean into then being characters etc, but they shouldn't make it explicitly a D&D game like that.
I would actually be okay with it if it were combined with the cameo from the cast of Critical Role. If there was a post-credit scene that replays the last scene of the movie and then transitions into Matt Mercer narrating the end of the movie at a table with the rest of the cast of Critical Role, I think that could be fun.
Yeah, but if it were a good "campaign” that was well-paced and seemed competently DMed, Mercer would ruin the illusion and make the entire film unbelievable!
Personally, I am not so sure they want to go that direction - there’s been indication they want to start a franchise with this film, that appeals beyond just D&D players (think Hasbro’s successful Transformers films, even if they were not paragons of writing) so I would be really surprised if they took such a step which would be a bit odd and alienating to non-players.
Plus there's the whole characters don't have to be a 1:1 likeness to their players thing. I don't see the movie going "meta" in that direction. They see this as the beachhead for a whole cinematic universe and going "lego movie" on it with a reality angle ... just doesn't seem the sort of story the producers would be able to sell writ large. Otherwise they should just go all in and cop the opening to Cloak and Dagger (wait for it ... and I have this on VHS somewhere):
I feel like the meta aspect might work better if this was a series, where you have time to actually explore the players. A movie would struggle to balance the screen time on its own without making the players tacked on unless it was just like, a reveal at the end or something. It's possible it could be done well, but I think it'd be a difficult balancing act to give the players enough focus to justify their inclusion without spending too much valuable time away from the characters.
Anybody else just excited that tieflings get to be a Real D&D Species for the first time? Popular media almost always focuses on the old standbys - there's always Hot Elves, there's always Boisterous Beer Dwarves, there's occasionally a halfling or two, but that's about it. I'm keen to see where my favorite playable species goes from here now that they've made the cut as Actual Things.
I would have loved to see a Dragonborn in the party, but I also understand why they don't want to hire a (probably famous) actor/actress that's a main character and not have their face appear in the movie.
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It has already been confirmed by WotC that she is a tiefling.
Thanks, hopefully the "this looks too fun and isn't edgelord enough crowd" doesn't unite with the revanchist cultural anxiety front who wouldn't surprise me if they start protesting "half devils" in "subversive media" for clicks and fundraising. March releases are supposed to be low key.
I think that crowd is busy prejudging they LotR TV show without having seen it (or without having read the source material judging from most of the comments on it) - I am sure they will come out of the woodworks once they need a new fantasy thing to complain about for no reason!
Jokes (if the depressing reality of widespread intolerance in the fantasy community can really be a joke) aside, I’m sure we’ll get some “purists” who ignore the fact that D&D has always been silly. I, for one, am glad they went with a more silly tone - D&D is at its best when it is a little bit goofy; glad to see they seem to have really committed to that tone.
I am waiting for the neckbeards to pick apart every scene for how it is against RAW, including identifying that character A moves faster then character B, or a character has cast 2 concentration spells, or just 2 spells at once lol.
As soon as the trailer dropped social media was on fire for hours complaining about the owlbeard wildshape, but that seems to be a sideshow compared to the otherwise good will D&D fans have given the trailer so far.
I mean my Druid player has asked me and I have looked at the stats of. CR3 Owlbear and there is nothing OP about letting a player beastshape into it, so I am going with it :)
I read a comment elsewhere from someone who hoped that the film would end with a shot of the actors sat around the table playing DND with the idea that the entire movie was a DND session being played out. Am I the only one who hates that idea lol.
I don't know if I hate.it, but I don't have a positive outlook on it, shall we say. They should definitely lean into then being characters etc, but they shouldn't make it explicitly a D&D game like that.
I don't love the idea, because a lot of people are saying that they want it to be like how it's approached in the Princess Bride or Lego Movie. I don't think that would really work well for a D&D movie, and people have seen that concept executed well before. Tacking it on just because some people think it would be funny is not good screenwriting. I'd only be okay with it if it was extremely minor and/or added a lot to whatever theme the movie has.
I would actually be okay with it if it were combined with the cameo from the cast of Critical Role. If there was a post-credit scene that replays the last scene of the movie and then transitions into Matt Mercer narrating the end of the movie at a table with the rest of the cast of Critical Role, I think that could be fun. Just a minor cameo without undercutting the events of the movie that plays as a hook for people curious about the hobby and fan service for people that like Critical Role. Princess Bride-style would be too much, but a small moment like that that doesn't interrupt the flow of the movie could be good.
Personally I hope Critical Roll are nowhere near this movie, I love the stream, I watch it all but there is far far more to DnD then the way Critical roll play it, I would much prefer if Chris Perkins, or other DnD writers/designers etc made an appearance. Satine Phoenix used to be in charge of Wizards social media I think, giving her a cameo would be great, or the cast of Dimension 20 etc. Lets give some love to other streams, Critical Roll already has enough publicity.
I feel like the meta aspect might work better if this was a series, where you have time to actually explore the players. A movie would struggle to balance the screen time on its own without making the players tacked on unless it was just like, a reveal at the end or something. It's possible it could be done well, but I think it'd be a difficult balancing act to give the players enough focus to justify their inclusion without spending too much valuable time away from the characters.
I mean the other obvious thing is just have the cast of Stranger Things appear at the end :) But the more I think about it the more I don't think the film needs it. The Dragonlance books don't reference roleplay as far as I am aware. The DnD game link can come outside of the movie by having Chris Perkins run a DnD one shot for the cast.
Satine Phoenix used to be in charge of Wizards social media I think, giving her a cameo would be great
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I feel like the meta aspect might work better if this was a series, where you have time to actually explore the players. A movie would struggle to balance the screen time on its own without making the players tacked on unless it was just like, a reveal at the end or something. It's possible it could be done well, but I think it'd be a difficult balancing act to give the players enough focus to justify their inclusion without spending too much valuable time away from the characters.
I mean the other obvious thing is just have the cast of Stranger Things appear at the end :) But the more I think about it the more I don't think the film needs it. The Dragonlance books don't reference roleplay as far as I am aware. The DnD game link can come outside of the movie by having Chris Perkins run a DnD one shot for the cast.
Thry definitely don’t need it to be the actors playing a game. And People who want the meta movie can already watch “The Gamers” and “The Gamers:Dorkness Rising.” Both of which do a good job of capturing how a game really plays. Like the scene that is, basically:
Players: We walk down the hall
DM: You hit a trap and it blows up.
Player: Wait, my rogue is looking for traps, my rogue is always looking for traps.
DM: You didn’t say you were looking for traps.
Other player: He said it in session 1 that he’s always looking for traps.
DM: Ugh, fine, make a search roll.
The production values are much lower, and it’s really tongue in cheek, but it’s actually a pretty fun, silly movie.
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That or the bad guy, he has said that he has been threatened on pain of lawsuit, not to give anything away about his character. So there is something suspicious about him.
I am waiting for the neckbeards to pick apart every scene for how it is against RAW, including identifying that character A moves faster then character B, or a character has cast 2 concentration spells, or just 2 spells at once lol.
Pretty sure those options are non-exclusive.
As soon as the trailer dropped social media was on fire for hours complaining about the owlbeard wildshape, but that seems to be a sideshow compared to the otherwise good will D&D fans have given the trailer so far.
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I don't know if I hate.it, but I don't have a positive outlook on it, shall we say. They should definitely lean into then being characters etc, but they shouldn't make it explicitly a D&D game like that.
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I don't love the idea, because a lot of people are saying that they want it to be like how it's approached in the Princess Bride or Lego Movie. I don't think that would really work well for a D&D movie, and people have seen that concept executed well before. Tacking it on just because some people think it would be funny is not good screenwriting. I'd only be okay with it if it was extremely minor and/or added a lot to whatever theme the movie has.
I would actually be okay with it if it were combined with the cameo from the cast of Critical Role. If there was a post-credit scene that replays the last scene of the movie and then transitions into Matt Mercer narrating the end of the movie at a table with the rest of the cast of Critical Role, I think that could be fun. Just a minor cameo without undercutting the events of the movie that plays as a hook for people curious about the hobby and fan service for people that like Critical Role. Princess Bride-style would be too much, but a small moment like that that doesn't interrupt the flow of the movie could be good.
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Yeah, but if it were a good "campaign” that was well-paced and seemed competently DMed, Mercer would ruin the illusion and make the entire film unbelievable!
Personally, I am not so sure they want to go that direction - there’s been indication they want to start a franchise with this film, that appeals beyond just D&D players (think Hasbro’s successful Transformers films, even if they were not paragons of writing) so I would be really surprised if they took such a step which would be a bit odd and alienating to non-players.
Plus there's the whole characters don't have to be a 1:1 likeness to their players thing. I don't see the movie going "meta" in that direction. They see this as the beachhead for a whole cinematic universe and going "lego movie" on it with a reality angle ... just doesn't seem the sort of story the producers would be able to sell writ large. Otherwise they should just go all in and cop the opening to Cloak and Dagger (wait for it ... and I have this on VHS somewhere):
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I feel like the meta aspect might work better if this was a series, where you have time to actually explore the players. A movie would struggle to balance the screen time on its own without making the players tacked on unless it was just like, a reveal at the end or something. It's possible it could be done well, but I think it'd be a difficult balancing act to give the players enough focus to justify their inclusion without spending too much valuable time away from the characters.
Anybody else just excited that tieflings get to be a Real D&D Species for the first time? Popular media almost always focuses on the old standbys - there's always Hot Elves, there's always Boisterous Beer Dwarves, there's occasionally a halfling or two, but that's about it. I'm keen to see where my favorite playable species goes from here now that they've made the cut as Actual Things.
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Yeah, seeing a PC race that's not Tolkien-derived is a definite plus.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
I would have loved to see a Dragonborn in the party, but I also understand why they don't want to hire a (probably famous) actor/actress that's a main character and not have their face appear in the movie.
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Just hire Andy Serkis.
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At least it looks like it'll suck a lot less than the previous D&D movie...
I mean my Druid player has asked me and I have looked at the stats of. CR3 Owlbear and there is nothing OP about letting a player beastshape into it, so I am going with it :)
Personally I hope Critical Roll are nowhere near this movie, I love the stream, I watch it all but there is far far more to DnD then the way Critical roll play it, I would much prefer if Chris Perkins, or other DnD writers/designers etc made an appearance. Satine Phoenix used to be in charge of Wizards social media I think, giving her a cameo would be great, or the cast of Dimension 20 etc. Lets give some love to other streams, Critical Roll already has enough publicity.
I mean the other obvious thing is just have the cast of Stranger Things appear at the end :) But the more I think about it the more I don't think the film needs it. The Dragonlance books don't reference roleplay as far as I am aware. The DnD game link can come outside of the movie by having Chris Perkins run a DnD one shot for the cast.
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Lol nope not on twitter. Something I should know? Just went and had a look, and, ok not her then lol.
Thry definitely don’t need it to be the actors playing a game. And People who want the meta movie can already watch “The Gamers” and “The Gamers:Dorkness Rising.” Both of which do a good job of capturing how a game really plays. Like the scene that is, basically:
Players: We walk down the hall
DM: You hit a trap and it blows up.
Player: Wait, my rogue is looking for traps, my rogue is always looking for traps.
DM: You didn’t say you were looking for traps.
Other player: He said it in session 1 that he’s always looking for traps.
DM: Ugh, fine, make a search roll.
The production values are much lower, and it’s really tongue in cheek, but it’s actually a pretty fun, silly movie.