Recently, all over the internet and D&D beyond, people have been really worried about D&D 6th edition. Most people seem to be scared it will overhaul good rules, create new ones that are bad, or just flat out ruin the game. The truth is this. The suspense of the new edition coming out in 2024 is what is mainly making people worry. Nobody really has a ton of info on it, so it is making people very worried, because they are assuming the worse. When it comes out, just sit back, relax, read the new edition and understand it, and if you do not like it, then simply stick with D&D 5th edition. If you love 6th, then simply switch to 6th. And if you like bits of both, then just use bits of both.
Everyone needs to relax. It's gonna be fine. D&D wont change, you can stick with 5th, and D&D 6th will just be optional.
The inclusion of editorial in your poll invalidates any results you might seek to derive. Your proposed feelings associated with each numeric value border on caricature rather than accurate reactions and thus corrupt any such results. Take, for example, your 0/10 response - one might feel a 0/10, but also disagree with the “5e is trash” editorial you included, unnecessarily skewing your results.
Ideally, you want your poll responses to be as bland as possible to minimise their impact on the results - there is a reason a scale like “very concerned somewhat concerned, neutral, somewhat unconcerned, very unconcerned” is more common for polling.
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I will not be voting in the poll due to the methodology issues, but I’ll share my thoughts regardless. Personally, I am not overly concerned. I like 5e, but recognise it has a number of places it could be improved upon. The current information about the 2024 rules update (and it should be noted it is an update to 5e, not 6e) and playtest content looks like it will fix a number of the issues I have with 5e, while preserving a lot of 5e’s present benefits. To the extent there are things I do not like, the existence of backwards compatibility should provide a mechanism for easily inserting the favoured rules or a framework for easily adapting favoured rules to the new system.
Having lived through edition changes before, I am glad they are not actually making 6e - this mechanism for updating the game seems far more favourable to the player as it means past purchased is not suddenly rendered moot.
The first mistake is calling it 6th edition. Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
For my part, having been through all the edition changes, and I always like the new one. I even liked 4 for a while. I expect I'll like this one, too. Whether I'll like it better or not, I won't be able to say until its actually out and in my hand. Anyone who went through the Dndnext playtest which gave us 5e can tell you that what we saw in playtest often differed greatly from what was published. Making judgments about a whole edition that won't be out for another year after having seen what amounts to a handful of trial balloons is a fool's errand.
Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
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Less than ideal poll questions aside, your post title is way off (generally sweeping generalizations like "everyone" or "nobody" are never true). I'm not worried at all, not even a little. I suspect there will be bits I like and some that I don't care for but as Caerwyn_Glyndwr and Xalthu already mentioned, I can just keep playing as I have been and adapt the new rules as I see fit.
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Recently, all over the internet and D&D beyond, people have been really worried about D&D 6th edition. Most people seem to be scared it will overhaul good rules, create new ones that are bad, or just flat out ruin the game. The truth is this. The suspense of the new edition coming out in 2024 is what is mainly making people worry. Nobody really has a ton of info on it, so it is making people very worried, because they are assuming the worse. When it comes out, just sit back, relax, read the new edition and understand it, and if you do not like it, then simply stick with D&D 5th edition. If you love 6th, then simply switch to 6th. And if you like bits of both, then just use bits of both.
Everyone needs to relax. It's gonna be fine. D&D wont change, you can stick with 5th, and D&D 6th will just be optional.
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One D&D will take what we love from fifth edition and create an experience that is not only backwards compatible with the adventures and supplements you enjoy today but that will evolve the game for years to come.
Once 6th ed is operational it will be backwards comparable for adventures and supplements… there is nothing in that statement that says we will continue to be able to use D&D Beyond as we do now with 5e, ergo for those that use the online tools that they have purchased access to, there will not be the option to continue with 5e - they will have to go to pen & paper or some alternative
I agree that the poll is skewed. However, ultimately, the game cannot be improved without new editions. I am excited and eager to see what happens with the next version of the game, and to see how there are so many cool things and how they interact and improve upon what we have now.
This isn't even a full 6e. It's just going to be a heavily revised edition. All the products we've already bought won't be wasted, and people who don't want to switch over can just stay playing how they are. It's a win-win situation for everyone, really.
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I enjoy playing 5th edition and so does my small group. Whatever D&D 2024 brings, I can always use the DM power and use what I like.
I do not care for the woke stuff I hear, but those are just rumors. Until something is in print, I'm not paying much attention. I don't believe my opinion matters too much at Hasbro.
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Recently, all over the internet and D&D beyond, people have been really worried about D&D 6th edition. Most people seem to be scared it will overhaul good rules, create new ones that are bad, or just flat out ruin the game. The truth is this. The suspense of the new edition coming out in 2024 is what is mainly making people worry. Nobody really has a ton of info on it, so it is making people very worried, because they are assuming the worse. When it comes out, just sit back, relax, read the new edition and understand it, and if you do not like it, then simply stick with D&D 5th edition. If you love 6th, then simply switch to 6th. And if you like bits of both, then just use bits of both.
Everyone needs to relax. It's gonna be fine. D&D wont change, you can stick with 5th, and D&D 6th will just be optional.
Unless you have a statement from WotC saying that D&D Beyond won’t change then you are factually wrong
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One D&D will take what we love from fifth edition and create an experience that is not only backwards compatible with the adventures and supplements you enjoy today but that will evolve the game for years to come.
Once 6th ed is operational it will be backwards comparable for adventures and supplements… there is nothing in that statement that says we will continue to be able to use D&D Beyond as we do now with 5e, ergo for those that use the online tools that they have purchased access to, there will not be the option to continue with 5e - they will have to go to pen & paper or some alternative
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Unless you have an official statement from WotC that D&D Beyond will change when 5e Revised/5.5 launches and 5e will no longer work.
My suspicion is that most of us who have been thru multiple edition changes are not hugely worried by the 2024 update. Will the game change somewhat? Sure. Will it somehow be ruined? No! The changes up thru 4e were pretty much by company fiat and you were stuck with what they mandated with no ( or very little) prior input. 5e saw the start of getting player input and I’ve enjoyed the 1D&D process so far for the coming updates. They give me hope that mistakes like the UA Druid won’t make it into the revisions. What I’m hoping for is that we can get through at least 1 full round of playtest/theory craft and feedback before the final versions are released in late 2024. It would really be nice to get through 2 rounds but …
The first mistake is calling it 6th edition. Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
I’m going with R5e. It’s simple, and from what they’ve said likely to be accurate.
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One D&D will take what we love from fifth edition and create an experience that is not only backwards compatible with the adventures and supplements you enjoy today but that will evolve the game for years to come.
The books will layout how you can use material/adventures from before the 2024 books so people can continue to use the books they own and provide as frictionless a process as possible.
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One of the things we're doing to ensure that 5E stays compatible with itself is that when a number is attached to itself, it won't change. So no spells are changing levels and no monster CRs are changing. They're working to make the CR of the monster and not change the CR. Similarly they're making sure the spell is appropriate for the level instead of changing the spell level. This is one of the ways we're supporting a revision of 5E in place instead of creating a 5.5 or 5E.
The way content is on D&D Beyond will not change either. If you bought a book, it'll still be there. They may get a "legacy" label, but they'll still be there.
Will our current core books in D&D Beyond just get upgraded to the 2024 version? No, they are considered new books because they have so much new content, new art, etc.
In other words, all indications are that they will handle this as they did the "archiving" of Volo's and the first Mordenkainen's after the release of the second Mordenkainen's.
As it was said prior you should add the option to enter in how we feel or remove the whole feeling aspect as you may have two people who are not worried with different feelings. Some may not be worried as they are leaving dnd and going to pathfinder or they could be like me and not worried due to the fact that I have no plan to use the updated version. I may use parts or if they bring out new classes but for the most part at my table we're staying with 5e. Most of the important changes we have already home brews house rules. Like dual weld is an addition off hand attack not a bonus action.
The first mistake is calling it 6th edition. Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
I’m going with R5e. It’s simple, and from what they’ve said likely to be accurate.
What about 5R? The e is implied. Just brainstorming here.
The first mistake is calling it 6th edition. Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
I’m going with R5e. It’s simple, and from what they’ve said likely to be accurate.
What about 5R? The e is implied. Just brainstorming here.
I'm going with 5eR, pronounced Fiver". Then we can call threads like these symptoms of 5eR Fever.
But no one stood with me when I insisted we call the Gothic Lineages "Gothlines" so the prognosis of 5eR thriving as a term of discussion is low.
The first mistake is calling it 6th edition. Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
I’m going with R5e. It’s simple, and from what they’ve said likely to be accurate.
What about 5R? The e is implied. Just brainstorming here.
Doesn’t have the right ring to it. (I’d be more inclined to go with MidnightPlat’s 5eR. 😉) R5e just sounds better in my head.
I have a different take/view. In my opinion, there is no edition change at all. I have not played 3e nor 3.5e, so I do not know how drastically different they are, but I will say making a distinction within the current edition of 5e is unnecessary. I prefer to just call it 5e, since all we are getting is just additional options. All the basic mechanics are still the same. I do not think moving ASIs to backgrounds from species, adding feats to backgrounds, and minor class tweaks is significant enough call 5e anything other than 5e.
Moving the source of ASIs is cosmetic and makes little to no mechanical difference. Adding feats to backgrounds is no different from the very common homebrew rule of everyone having a free feat starting out, or simply getting a feat doing downtime activities as in RAW. The class tweaks are impactful and significant like OCFs in TCOE, but neither are so game changing that it warrants a name change.
In the PHB alone, we got several different experience/level progression systems, three rest systems, two magic resource systems, several stat generation systems, an extensive feat system that is optional, optional epic boons which is effectively another feat system, optionl alignment system, optional multiclass, and whatever else I am forgetting.
Then we got a second way of creating magic items, second vehicle system, magic items that level up, multiple additional feat-like systems (piety, supernatural gifts, dark gifts, factions, patrons, company positions, etc.), spells added to backgrounds, sidekicks that can function as PCs and NPCs, race change, etc.
If we can run two characters in the same campaign using two different leveling mechanics, two different rest options, and two entirely different character generation methods (regular vs. sidekicks), and still call it the same game, I do not see how being able to run an additional third character with a slightly different character generation method compared to the regular method warrants a name change of any kind.
If there is going to be a 5.5e, let alone 6e, I will say we will have to wait for at least another ten years.
Recently, all over the internet and D&D beyond, people have been really worried about D&D 6th edition. Most people seem to be scared it will overhaul good rules, create new ones that are bad, or just flat out ruin the game. The truth is this. The suspense of the new edition coming out in 2024 is what is mainly making people worry. Nobody really has a ton of info on it, so it is making people very worried, because they are assuming the worse. When it comes out, just sit back, relax, read the new edition and understand it, and if you do not like it, then simply stick with D&D 5th edition. If you love 6th, then simply switch to 6th. And if you like bits of both, then just use bits of both.
Everyone needs to relax. It's gonna be fine. D&D wont change, you can stick with 5th, and D&D 6th will just be optional.
The inclusion of editorial in your poll invalidates any results you might seek to derive. Your proposed feelings associated with each numeric value border on caricature rather than accurate reactions and thus corrupt any such results. Take, for example, your 0/10 response - one might feel a 0/10, but also disagree with the “5e is trash” editorial you included, unnecessarily skewing your results.
Ideally, you want your poll responses to be as bland as possible to minimise their impact on the results - there is a reason a scale like “very concerned somewhat concerned, neutral, somewhat unconcerned, very unconcerned” is more common for polling.
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I will not be voting in the poll due to the methodology issues, but I’ll share my thoughts regardless. Personally, I am not overly concerned. I like 5e, but recognise it has a number of places it could be improved upon. The current information about the 2024 rules update (and it should be noted it is an update to 5e, not 6e) and playtest content looks like it will fix a number of the issues I have with 5e, while preserving a lot of 5e’s present benefits. To the extent there are things I do not like, the existence of backwards compatibility should provide a mechanism for easily inserting the favoured rules or a framework for easily adapting favoured rules to the new system.
Having lived through edition changes before, I am glad they are not actually making 6e - this mechanism for updating the game seems far more favourable to the player as it means past purchased is not suddenly rendered moot.
The first mistake is calling it 6th edition. Whatever it is, it won't be a full edition change. We can argue over 5th revised, or 5.5 or 5.25, or 5.37684, but 6 is just flat wrong.
For my part, having been through all the edition changes, and I always like the new one. I even liked 4 for a while. I expect I'll like this one, too. Whether I'll like it better or not, I won't be able to say until its actually out and in my hand. Anyone who went through the Dndnext playtest which gave us 5e can tell you that what we saw in playtest often differed greatly from what was published. Making judgments about a whole edition that won't be out for another year after having seen what amounts to a handful of trial balloons is a fool's errand.
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Agree with skewed methodology.
Has WOTC had a good track record of icky-"ethics" so far as product development has gone over recent years?
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Less than ideal poll questions aside, your post title is way off (generally sweeping generalizations like "everyone" or "nobody" are never true). I'm not worried at all, not even a little. I suspect there will be bits I like and some that I don't care for but as Caerwyn_Glyndwr and Xalthu already mentioned, I can just keep playing as I have been and adapt the new rules as I see fit.
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One D&D will take what we love from fifth edition and create an experience that is not only backwards compatible with the adventures and supplements you enjoy today but that will evolve the game for years to come.
Once 6th ed is operational it will be backwards comparable for adventures and supplements… there is nothing in that statement that says we will continue to be able to use D&D Beyond as we do now with 5e, ergo for those that use the online tools that they have purchased access to, there will not be the option to continue with 5e - they will have to go to pen & paper or some alternative
its engineered obsolescence
I agree that the poll is skewed. However, ultimately, the game cannot be improved without new editions. I am excited and eager to see what happens with the next version of the game, and to see how there are so many cool things and how they interact and improve upon what we have now.
This isn't even a full 6e. It's just going to be a heavily revised edition. All the products we've already bought won't be wasted, and people who don't want to switch over can just stay playing how they are. It's a win-win situation for everyone, really.
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HERE.I'm not worried about what D&D 2024 will bring.
I enjoy playing 5th edition and so does my small group. Whatever D&D 2024 brings, I can always use the DM power and use what I like.
I do not care for the woke stuff I hear, but those are just rumors. Until something is in print, I'm not paying much attention. I don't believe my opinion matters too much at Hasbro.
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Unless you have an official statement from WotC that D&D Beyond will change when 5e Revised/5.5 launches and 5e will no longer work.
Then you are factually wrong.
Unless you have an official statement from WotC that D&D Beyond will change when 5e Revised/5.5 launches and 5e will no longer work.
Then you are factually wrong.
My suspicion is that most of us who have been thru multiple edition changes are not hugely worried by the 2024 update. Will the game change somewhat? Sure. Will it somehow be ruined? No! The changes up thru 4e were pretty much by company fiat and you were stuck with what they mandated with no ( or very little) prior input. 5e saw the start of getting player input and I’ve enjoyed the 1D&D process so far for the coming updates. They give me hope that mistakes like the UA Druid won’t make it into the revisions. What I’m hoping for is that we can get through at least 1 full round of playtest/theory craft and feedback before the final versions are released in late 2024. It would really be nice to get through 2 rounds but …
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I’m going with R5e. It’s simple, and from what they’ve said likely to be accurate.
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In other words, all indications are that they will handle this as they did the "archiving" of Volo's and the first Mordenkainen's after the release of the second Mordenkainen's.
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As it was said prior you should add the option to enter in how we feel or remove the whole feeling aspect as you may have two people who are not worried with different feelings. Some may not be worried as they are leaving dnd and going to pathfinder or they could be like me and not worried due to the fact that I have no plan to use the updated version. I may use parts or if they bring out new classes but for the most part at my table we're staying with 5e. Most of the important changes we have already home brews house rules. Like dual weld is an addition off hand attack not a bonus action.
What about 5R? The e is implied. Just brainstorming here.
I'm going with 5eR, pronounced Fiver". Then we can call threads like these symptoms of 5eR Fever.
But no one stood with me when I insisted we call the Gothic Lineages "Gothlines" so the prognosis of 5eR thriving as a term of discussion is low.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Doesn’t have the right ring to it. (I’d be more inclined to go with MidnightPlat’s 5eR. 😉) R5e just sounds better in my head.
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I have a different take/view. In my opinion, there is no edition change at all. I have not played 3e nor 3.5e, so I do not know how drastically different they are, but I will say making a distinction within the current edition of 5e is unnecessary. I prefer to just call it 5e, since all we are getting is just additional options. All the basic mechanics are still the same. I do not think moving ASIs to backgrounds from species, adding feats to backgrounds, and minor class tweaks is significant enough call 5e anything other than 5e.
Moving the source of ASIs is cosmetic and makes little to no mechanical difference. Adding feats to backgrounds is no different from the very common homebrew rule of everyone having a free feat starting out, or simply getting a feat doing downtime activities as in RAW. The class tweaks are impactful and significant like OCFs in TCOE, but neither are so game changing that it warrants a name change.
In the PHB alone, we got several different experience/level progression systems, three rest systems, two magic resource systems, several stat generation systems, an extensive feat system that is optional, optional epic boons which is effectively another feat system, optionl alignment system, optional multiclass, and whatever else I am forgetting.
Then we got a second way of creating magic items, second vehicle system, magic items that level up, multiple additional feat-like systems (piety, supernatural gifts, dark gifts, factions, patrons, company positions, etc.), spells added to backgrounds, sidekicks that can function as PCs and NPCs, race change, etc.
If we can run two characters in the same campaign using two different leveling mechanics, two different rest options, and two entirely different character generation methods (regular vs. sidekicks), and still call it the same game, I do not see how being able to run an additional third character with a slightly different character generation method compared to the regular method warrants a name change of any kind.
If there is going to be a 5.5e, let alone 6e, I will say we will have to wait for at least another ten years.
And I am not worried.
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