You seem to still be advocating an all or nothing system. If something is intended to be helpful to a tough boss fight, the characters are either told outright that it is the key to winning, or they have to guess what to pay attention to, paying an attack opportunity each round they make such a guess.
That's already the way the rules work? Making a lore check in combat is Improvising an Action, and (surprise) costs an action. But yes, if a PC wants to find a useful clue in combat, they should use an action to do it.
Where in the rules does it say that skill checks always cost actions?
It's clearly doing something, and free actions aren't a thing in 5e.
The Hide, Search, and Grapple Actions are all essentially just skill checks that cost an Action, so there is precedent. However I regularly call for checks and don’t necessarily charge the player their PC’s action to do it since it doesn’t explicitly state that it must cost an action to make a check.
Where in the rules does it say that skill checks always cost actions?
It's clearly doing something, and free actions aren't a thing in 5e.
The Hide, Search, and Grapple Actions are all essentially just skill checks that cost an Action, so there is precedent. However I regularly call for checks and don’t necessarily charge the player their PC’s action to do it since it doesn’t explicitly state that it must cost an action to make a check.
From the DnDBeyond Basic Rules...
An ability check tests a character's or monster's innate talent and training in an effort to overcome a challenge. The DM calls for an ability check when a character or monster attempts an action (other than an attack) that has a chance of failure.
This is found under Ability Checks, where Skills are also found.
it means that if there is a chance you might succeed or might fail, that you have to make a check, which cost an action. If there is no chance to fail you automatically succeed, and it cost you no action. If you would automatically fail, no check is required (because you didn’t attempt anything), therefore, no action is spent.
Just considering it difficult terrain is another possibility, yes, but that might as well equate to the PC having no problems, since it only affects movement rate and unless the PC is right at the bow or stern, they likely are within a round of anywhere they would want to move, regardless.
The standard is that resisting a problem is a save, not a check. It looks like the 2024 book is being more rigorous about that, since in 2014 resisting grapple was a free action athletics check.
The main thing I like about OneD&D are the proposed Weapon Mastery rules. I will probably tweak them, though.
Though I still have complaints about several aspects of certain classes, I don't care for adjusting the classes enough to change them, except Hexblades, which have always been catnip to power gamer uhhhhhhh, cats. Also don't believe that the nuance of martial arts can be captured by Monks in sword-and-sorcery fiction without completely re-working them, which WotC is clearly unable or unwilling to do.
There has been noticeable power-creep in content in Tasha's and other books, so I review every subclass before I let players use them.
We got 7 and change months of play testing the UA material released and sorting that crap out, and really finding out if just those suggestions really are compatible with the 5E current rules.
Then we will get the actual new rules and find out what is what?
I mean has anyone really put the UA material though the grinder?
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I'm not sure if this counts, so hopefully someone corrects me. I have been using the Lairs of Etharis Adventure booklet, the Grimhollow quests, as a small campaign of sorts. I hope in the future they add the entire campaign setting of Grimhollow, so I can have dndb access to some of those subclasses in Grimhollow. Just recently made it to the third quest with the kobolds, starting that out after a side quest of my own making.. Do hope in the near future they add Grimhollow as a full campaign setting I can purchase, though.
This is more of a collection of questions regarding the changes and additions that Wizards of the Coast has made to 5th Edition Dungeons and Dragons.
Questions such as.....
1. A.I. Art in new modules
2. New Classes and Races
3. The idea of ONE D&D as a whole
Also, this is an open opinion forum, so anything goes.
I got baited into clicking on this thread by the wildly unrelated title that asks whether or not anybody buys the new books. So I'll respond to that in addition to these three questions.
0.Of course people buy and use the new content. Honestly, there are likely millions who haven't even the faintest ideas of these "issues". Most of the people that know don't care. Many people that care still buy new books. And as long as Wotzy doesn't start a book title with the letter S I'll be buying it because it's probably not another Strixhaven or Spelljammer. Also, one of the greatest adventures ever came out not that long ago: Affair on the Concordant Express (in Keys From the Golden Vault).
1. I dunno completely how to feel about AI anymore since it's so hard to repel but I'd generally say me no likey AI art or AI assisted art in books. Though I doubt Wizards would've cared about the AI art without the outcry, they also weren't informed about it and they quickly banned AI art for both D&D and Magic. So that situation isn't gonna deter me from purchasing anything.
2. We aren't seeing new classes or new species in the core rulebooks for 1D&D unless I missed something or something changes (which are both definitely possible). And if there were, that likely wouldn't be a big deal to me. And new species in new 5e books isn't much of a problem to me as there isn't any necessity to allow them in games.
3.Absolutely! A game doesn't survive or improve by stagnantly refusing to move on from one edition to another. And remember, there isn't a Black Pudding ready to corrode your weapons and swallow you whole if you don't switch to One D&D.
PS. Sorry if I"m blabbering like an incoherent Gibbering Mouther or if my yapping is getting to you. I only got 6 hours of sleep and have sleep apnea so I'm probably not writing properly at the moment.
This is more of a collection of questions regarding the changes and additions that Wizards of the Coast has made to 5th Edition Dungeons and Dragons.
Questions such as.....
1. A.I. Art in new modules
2. New Classes and Races
3. The idea of ONE D&D as a whole
Also, this is an open opinion forum, so anything goes.
1. I am For AI art for personal use the idea of using AI, claiming it belongs to you and trying to sell it is repugnant.
2 and 3. The only thing I liked out of the new material was the Ardling which when i read it was being dropped from the work. I lost all interest. I do not care if it is not a new edition or whatever name they are applying to it. I do not care if they make all the content i have purchased is converted to legacy content as long as i still have access to it.
That's already the way the rules work? Making a lore check in combat is Improvising an Action, and (surprise) costs an action. But yes, if a PC wants to find a useful clue in combat, they should use an action to do it.
It's clearly doing something, and free actions aren't a thing in 5e.
The Hide, Search, and Grapple Actions are all essentially just skill checks that cost an Action, so there is precedent. However I regularly call for checks and don’t necessarily charge the player their PC’s action to do it since it doesn’t explicitly state that it must cost an action to make a check.
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Ah, well, there ya go. Thanks!
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it means that if there is a chance you might succeed or might fail, that you have to make a check, which cost an action. If there is no chance to fail you automatically succeed, and it cost you no action. If you would automatically fail, no check is required (because you didn’t attempt anything), therefore, no action is spent.
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Does your DM usually call for a check to breath normally every 6 seconds? GTFO.
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The standard is that resisting a problem is a save, not a check. It looks like the 2024 book is being more rigorous about that, since in 2014 resisting grapple was a free action athletics check.
Short answer: Very selectively.
The main thing I like about OneD&D are the proposed Weapon Mastery rules. I will probably tweak them, though.
Though I still have complaints about several aspects of certain classes, I don't care for adjusting the classes enough to change them, except Hexblades, which have always been catnip to power gamer uhhhhhhh, cats. Also don't believe that the nuance of martial arts can be captured by Monks in sword-and-sorcery fiction without completely re-working them, which WotC is clearly unable or unwilling to do.
There has been noticeable power-creep in content in Tasha's and other books, so I review every subclass before I let players use them.
We got 7 and change months of play testing the UA material released and sorting that crap out, and really finding out if just those suggestions really are compatible with the 5E current rules.
Then we will get the actual new rules and find out what is what?
I mean has anyone really put the UA material though the grinder?
Place dental impression upon the metallic gluteus Maximus.
I'm not sure if this counts, so hopefully someone corrects me. I have been using the Lairs of Etharis Adventure booklet, the Grimhollow quests, as a small campaign of sorts. I hope in the future they add the entire campaign setting of Grimhollow, so I can have dndb access to some of those subclasses in Grimhollow. Just recently made it to the third quest with the kobolds, starting that out after a side quest of my own making.. Do hope in the near future they add Grimhollow as a full campaign setting I can purchase, though.
I got baited into clicking on this thread by the wildly unrelated title that asks whether or not anybody buys the new books. So I'll respond to that in addition to these three questions.
0.Of course people buy and use the new content. Honestly, there are likely millions who haven't even the faintest ideas of these "issues". Most of the people that know don't care. Many people that care still buy new books. And as long as Wotzy doesn't start a book title with the letter S I'll be buying it because it's probably not another Strixhaven or Spelljammer. Also, one of the greatest adventures ever came out not that long ago: Affair on the Concordant Express (in Keys From the Golden Vault).
1. I dunno completely how to feel about AI anymore since it's so hard to repel but I'd generally say me no likey AI art or AI assisted art in books. Though I doubt Wizards would've cared about the AI art without the outcry, they also weren't informed about it and they quickly banned AI art for both D&D and Magic. So that situation isn't gonna deter me from purchasing anything.
2. We aren't seeing new classes or new species in the core rulebooks for 1D&D unless I missed something or something changes (which are both definitely possible). And if there were, that likely wouldn't be a big deal to me. And new species in new 5e books isn't much of a problem to me as there isn't any necessity to allow them in games.
3.Absolutely! A game doesn't survive or improve by stagnantly refusing to move on from one edition to another. And remember, there isn't a Black Pudding ready to corrode your weapons and swallow you whole if you don't switch to One D&D.
PS. Sorry if I"m blabbering like an incoherent Gibbering Mouther or if my yapping is getting to you. I only got 6 hours of sleep and have sleep apnea so I'm probably not writing properly at the moment.
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HERE.1. I am For AI art for personal use the idea of using AI, claiming it belongs to you and trying to sell it is repugnant.
2 and 3. The only thing I liked out of the new material was the Ardling which when i read it was being dropped from the work. I lost all interest. I do not care if it is not a new edition or whatever name they are applying to it. I do not care if they make all the content i have purchased is converted to legacy content as long as i still have access to it.
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